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Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 févr. à 21 h 41
Sujet:
On a cup run
Why would Ottawa agree to that?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 août 2023 à 14 h 12
Sujet:
Finishing touches
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LivingAnew</b></div><div>I HIGHLY doubt Chicago would take Kubalik back. Heck, it was just a year ago that they didn't even qualify him as an RFA; they let him walk for nothing. He doesn't fit our long-term plans.
The tough thing for OTT is that there are darn few teams with the cap space and the willingness to take on cap casualties like Joseph and/or Brannstrom. While Joseph has value, he'll be long gone by the time the Hawks are relevant again. So, his "value" to the Hawks lies strictly in picks or other assets that'd accompany him in trade.
Brannstrom, on the other hand (IMO), could have some value to the Hawks - creating some stability in the RD position while the soon-to-be-drafted kids marinate and develop. The RD position is probably now the weakest of the Hawks' prospect pipelines. But as with any team in a serious rebuild, the Hawks are in the business of collecting draft picks, not trading them away. And contenders wrestling with the cap are willing to trade their RD cap dumps/casualties to us - and include picks (a la Zaitsev, as you know well) that serve our rebuild.
My sense is (and I could be wrong) is that the Hawks might, MIGHT consider taking Brannstrom and Joseph off OTT's hands for F/C. I thought OTT has some youngster now (or soon) ready to step into a 3rd line RD slot, too? Maybe that would be some solace?
The bottom line is that I think OTT is in a tough spot... Contending teams with picks may want to get better but have no cap room; teams with cap room don't envision themselves in a "win now" mode, and are in the business of collecting picks or assets for the long-term, not coughing them up. And this year it seems there are VERY few teams with much cap room, at all. It's a tough conundrum. Good luck!</div></div>
Thanks for the insight. Yeah I figured it would be a long shot wanting him back. Only saw it as a short term weapon for bedard to have on the PP etc. Cheers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 août 2023 à 14 h 10
Sujet:
Finishing touches
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>But he can play RD and if I'm not mistaken he like it more on that side. It's just that Dorion and DJ Smith have their ways</div></div>
Yeah it really is too bad he didn't pick up Tolvanen for free last year. I really like the make up of NJ and use their lines/cap hits as a benchmark for Ottawa. Im happy it's going in the right direction and firmly hope new ownership moves Dorion out.
Look forward to reading more AGM posts with more ideas as the season progresses. I just hope this last move is done sooner than later to avoid distractions for once to start the year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 août 2023 à 17 h 1
Sujet:
Finishing touches
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>Good on you for knowing the difference between a cap dump and a cap casualty. After losing DeBrincat, Dorion thought he re-invest the AAV in another goalie and a Vladimir Tarasenko
After these 2 signings (9.0 AAV), sens got very tight but they still need to sign Pinto. It’s obvious they should go with a short year bridge with him, which should cost 1.2 to 1.5
That’s about the amount they need to clear. Either they have a guy who will start on LTIR (Norris? Forsberg? Both?) or they move someone to replace him with someone cheaper.
Based on my analysis, Kubalik is the one that makes the most sense to move. Would return an asset (Joseph would cost one), PP is already stacked, he’s UFA to be and Sens won’t have the space to re-sign him (they’ll have around 6.0 AAV to sign a forward) and Joseph is more needed on the PK and defensively at ES</div></div>
I agree with you logic of moving Kubalik and gaining an asset. First choice personally and looked at it a lot. My view is Dorion cannot stomach more failed pro side trades not working out in his favour (which has happened multiple times). Moving Kubalik highlights another mistake and selfishly based on past behaviour I think he happily pays an asset to move a Joseph over Kubalik to save face.
Joseph I believe will have a bounce back year but I wonder on how the relationship between player and club is? Maybe i've read into it too much.
Branny is great but end of the day Chychrun Chabot and Sanderson are studs. Branny on the right side doesn't compliment those d. You need two way or shut down guys of which one or two have size. I rather Chychrun on the right side. Branny needs a chance to thrive and his value will diminish not getting the minutes in Ottawa imo.
End of day to have some flexibility two of Brannstrom, Kubalik and Joseph need to go. Pinto as a 10.2 RFA and limited leverage should sign around 1.85 on a short term deal.
What kind of return would you think Kubalik can bring? still limited trading partners so value not as high. I'd happily send him back to Chicago for OTT 3rd this year and 4th in 2026 but doubt they do it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 août 2023 à 12 h 26
Sujet:
Finishing touches
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>The Hawks have a lot of young D already they are looking to make spots for. I don't think that would be as amicable to the Hawks as a 2nd round pick would be. Plus Brannstrom is already making 2M with the salary only rising next season.</div></div>
Feel like Brannstrom can insolate those young D and people are able to flip him if needed.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 août 2023 à 12 h 24
Sujet:
Sens
MacEwen is better than Kelly. As well as Smejkal, Crookshank, Sokolov etc.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 août 2023 à 9 h 11
Sujet:
Finishing touches
What if Ottawa offered Chicago Brannstrom to take Joseph and a later pick if needed like a 4th?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 juill. 2023 à 11 h 39
Sujet:
Shane Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chazz44</b></div><div>Why not?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AG_sweden</b></div><div>Why the hell not?
He isn't getting offersheeted but that is not the same as he can't be offersheeted.</div></div>
He is a 10.2 RFA meaning he has not played enough professional games to attain group 2 RFA status due to injury and late addition in his first year. Therefore cannot be offer sheeted.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 juill. 2023 à 13 h 40
Sujet:
Swayman
Man that is one balanced roster. If they can score Swayman, look out. vintage early 2000 devils in bound.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juill. 2023 à 18 h 5
Sujet:
Cap Era Block Buster
Ottawa is not making that trade, but you knew that already.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 juill. 2023 à 7 h 58
Sujet:
Debrincat to Isles Joseph to Chicago
The islanders trade won't work unfortunately. They won't have enough money for Debrincat if they retain any salary and would likely still need to move another piece after that.
I am not a fan of spending draft capital to move Joseph. Look at his buyout next year if he has another down year they can do it then.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juill. 2023 à 22 h 4
Sujet:
Pierre Dorions way of saving face
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>This is just what I think Pierre Dorion will do before Michael Andlauer can take over and fire him.</div></div>
I got yeah. I'm hoping he can get a deal done with Seattle for Tolvanen, Nelson and picks and sign one of Tarasenko or Tatar.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juill. 2023 à 17 h 51
Sujet:
Pierre Dorions way of saving face
This feels rushed and not beneficial to Ottawa. Love JGP but his contract is not advantageous even with the cap going up. Kelly and Bailey on the 4th line is a liability.
Why not bridge Pinto for 2 years at a lower AAV?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mai 2023 à 13 h 12
Sujet:
If Murray is bought out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>1st and Heimosalmi for DeBrincat, sure. But Pesce holds so much more value to the Canes than DeBrincat would. Not only that, but Ottawa would have to add to get Pesce, not the other way around.</div></div>
Carolina needs scoring, so sure take away a pick at most but Ottawa can move him to Detroit or NJD so why would they sell him at a loss? I still hope he stays but if dealt this deal is fair to me.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mai 2023 à 13 h 9
Sujet:
If Murray is bought out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Wow this so bad for the Sens. Really bad asset management in the past couple of years when it looked for hopeful.
This lineup doesn't work cap wise. And what happens next year when Sanderson wants a raise?
PS. I believe Murray will be bought out.</div></div>
??? So bad? As in flipping Debrincat? There is tons of promise in this group.
With this proposal, the Sens have 21 Million in cap space next year to sign Sanderson and Pesce. If Murray is indeed bought out, then you deduct his 1.562 million from the 84.5 million total, brining it below the 83.5 million needed. The site you cannot remove the current retained salary so I had up to 85 million in room.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 mars 2023 à 23 h 35
Sujet:
My TDL Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>areax91</b></div><div>Gambrell didn't work out with the Sharks, so you can keep him. As for the rest of the package, that's more quantity than quality but we need the draft capital for our rebuild. While I'm not sure if I would accept or not given C-level prospects, I got a feeling Mike would take that for the draft picks.</div></div>
Way I look at it, you get draft capital to hit on one of those picks, and move two guys that are walking in FA anyways.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 mars 2023 à 23 h 34
Sujet:
My TDL Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Brannstrom is not a guy you trade. He's a great 3LD, and he's gonna be really inexpensive to extend.</div></div>
I actually think Brannstrom is a 4 D which evidently he will never be in Ottawa because he won't beat out Sandy Chabot or Chychrun. I am looking to move for some size prior to the likes of Hamara, Kleven or Donovan all coming in to compete for that same role. Need a 2 year filler.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 mars 2023 à 23 h 32
Sujet:
My TDL Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Onlyfairtrades1</b></div><div>Why would the Rangers trade a 6th round pick for a 7th round pick?</div></div>
The Motte trade condition was 7th becomes a 6th if the Rangers win in round 1.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 sept. 2022 à 11 h 44
Sujet:
Trade deadline
I can assure you the sens are refusing to move Grieg for Chychurn and Severson being a pending UFA value is less, so they would easily say no.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 janv. 2022 à 16 h 19
Sujet:
Habs players values
This is really something.....I wouldn't trade Norris for Suzuki 1 for 1 let alone that package....
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 janv. 2022 à 22 h 17
Sujet:
Continuation of TDL for next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Players that are between the ages of 18 and 21 are signed to 3 years when given an ELC and Jake Sanderson will be 20 next year.
Alex Formenton should want what Alexandre Texier got last July from the Columbus Blue Jackets.
1.1 million
Given his long and successful career with just one NHL team, I think Claude Giroux will spend the rest of his career with the Flyers and retire as one.
What Ken Holland will do depends on where the Oilers are in the standings closer to the trade deadline</div></div>
Am I missing something? I understand ELC is 3 years at max 925k per. But when Sanderson signs his ELC at the end of his college season to play the remainder of the 21-22 season with Ottawa that will burn a year of the ELC no? Therefore to start 22-23 season it would be year 2 of 3? Players have done this in the past.
Good comparison contract and player. So difference of 255k is more than reasonable for Formenton and 100 k for Gambrell also fine.
I feel like the connection and rumours of wanting to play in Ottawa at some point it could happen. Maybe 3 years vs next year? I thought the same thing playing out career with one team with Alfie and Sundin yet they both still played else where. Philly also a complete mess.
I agree with Holland waiting a bit, just trying to jump ahead of the game.
Thanks for your input! appreciated.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 36
Sujet:
Continuation of TDL for next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>1. Jake Sanderson's ELC will be 3 years long, not 2.
2. Alex Formenton is not signing that.
3. Dylan Gambrell wants his qualifying offer and you're not giving it to him for some reason.
4. Claude Giroux will sign for more money and for more term with the Flyers.
5. The Oilers announced today that they are not trading a 1st round pick or any of their top prospects.</div></div>
Sanderson is burning a year of his ELC this year after his NCAA season.
Formenton 2 year 2.5 mill is high as I would go. What do you think he will sign for?
What is Gambrells QO? I don't remember.
Giroux is not staying in Philly, only risk is he gets traded somewhere else and signs extension based on package given for him. Anything more then 2 yrs @ 7-7.5 mill is not in interest of the Sens with young guys to be paid.
Its a posturing by Holland, guy is desperate to make a move and will.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 janv. 2022 à 21 h 16
Sujet:
Picks TDL finish this season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBoyDuddus</b></div><div>I dont mind most of these for Ottawa, which means you're either spot on or other teams would likely want a little more.
Would hope Sanford would net at least a 4th considering that was the conditional pick in the trade.
3rd and 5th is fine by me for Tierney. Hopefully if he doesn't yield a 2nd Ottawa doesnt have to retain.
Ennis for a 5th is probably okay if he can score a couple more goals.
The Tippett trade is interesting, have seen his name dangled a couple times with Brannstrom. I'm not sure how much value Tychonick and J Brown carry around the league right now, but they might. not actually make up the difference between Brannstrom and Tippett. Would likely need to add a mid round pick instead of Tychonick and take the 6th off from Florida's side as well.
Brown trade is good too, I personally don't like Lavoie as a prospect and would prefer someone like Savoie or even Tullio. That said, if you're including a 1st and 4th then Oilers fans might want retention as well. Not sure if Koekkoek carries positive value but I guess that's a warm body coming back, maybe bringing him home would do him good as well.</div></div>
I really think Lavoie has the (size DJ wants) but tools to be a decent player. Mann is the perfect person to help get the most out of him. In the trade the main piece is the 1st and figured similar value to the Pageau type move.
I'm a big fan of having local guys sprinkled into the line up on occasion. If Slater wasn't part of a trade, De Haan on a cheap one year deal may be a viable option as well as insulation.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 déc. 2021 à 18 h 24
Sujet:
Ideal Team in 2 Years
I really wouldn't be surprised if there is an agreement with Brad Berry to keep Kleven all of next year too, and joining the sens at season end like Sanderson this year.
Also what about targeting a Kuzmenko as a UFA not having to lose any assets vs a decent package for Boeser?
Thoughts on value and play of B Pesce? I think he would be an ideal partner for Sanderson.
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Armchair-GM
21 déc. 2021 à 16 h 4
Sujet:
Free adds BSens and Top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NDoody</b></div><div>White will be an interesting one, I think the team Players especially want to keep him around which could pay off if he is kept at the 3rd line roll with some combo of C Brown, Formenton, Paul, Pinto.
No sure why you would bring back Ennis and Grambell, I think they will both be done after this year. Sokolov should be pushing to make the team next year as well.
I see JDB, Sanderson & Branstrom kinda switching out their time between the NHL and Ahl. IF I had to pick one of them to make the team full time it would be Thomspon with Branstromm a close second.
Do we know if the Sens are in on Kuzmenko for sure and if he would sign with OTT? I think these players are gambles, he plays on his off-wing, is 5'11, which will make the transition to the NHL difficult, especially as a top 6 player. If he hasn't made the jump to NHL already with his numbers in the KHL already it makes you wonder. I think he was willing to come over for a lower cap hit at first ala Zub, then it is worth the gamble. However I would be putting more effort into finding other real top 6 forwards to complement the Core.</div></div>
White is a team and locker room guy and has upside. In a cap world year 3 and 4 of his contract is the fear if you can't move him and trends down. Unless they are certain C Brown is traded within the next two years, i think it comes down to one or the other. Maybe they lean White for age but small sample size thanks to injuries makes it a risk if he doesn't excel.
I agree with you on movement among the young D. I feel like Brannstrom is the odd man out and doesn't fit the system but value low so worth giving him some time next season.
No idea if they are in on Kuzmenko but they should be. He will be coveted by a few teams. He's played 4 consistent years in the KHL now so I wouldn't be too concerned at a moderate 3.5AAV (no idea money he wants, merely a guess) for a year or two. It is similar to a Zub initial contract that if he works out, you have another year to make sure its not a fluke but it expires before some money is spent on other core pieces like Sanderson, Greig etc .
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