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Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 janv. 2023 à 10 h 19
Sujet:
Ploffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>None of the deals make sense for the Jets.
Reinhart would be alright, but is a luxury while Pionk plays a more important position. Reinhart has also reverted to his norm and isn't worth this much.
Schenn isn't worth a 2nd to the Jets. In effect the Jets are giving up a top 4 defenseman, a bottom 6 winger and a 2nd to downgrade their defense and pickup a luxury winger.
Toews isn't needed or worth a first at half salary.
Overall, the Jets add unneeded players and weaken their roster. It's not something teams that are playing well do.</div></div>
Value might not be perfect but this makes lots of sense for Jets.
I’d take the downgrade on Pionk to Schenn if it means giving Heinola an opportunity + getting a more defensively sound pairing/PKer + freeing up cap.
Even if Reinhart isn’t a PPG player this year, Jets need secondary scoring and haven’t gotten it from Appleton.
Toews is pricy but would likely get 4th line matchups if Lowry’s line is focused on shutting down other teams. That sounds like easy points to me.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juin 2022 à 22 h 23
Sujet:
Philly2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Idk, at the very least I'd think you'd have to send Philly the 14th overall pick for them to consider it.
Since this is all hypothetical, if the Jets did get the 5th overall pick somehow and Wright, Slavkovsky, Jiricek and Nemec go one through four, who do you take at #5??</div></div>
You run to the podium and pick Cooley
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juin 2022 à 22 h 16
Sujet:
Philly2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ReelBigFan</b></div><div>I like Heinola, but definitely not enough to land Provorov and 5OA… not to mention you guys don’t need LHD
So while philly declines due to price, Jets shouldn’t do this because it doesn’t fix any holes next season</div></div>
I don’t think any Scheifele trade fixes anything for us next season. This gives us another top 4 defenseman who has already logged big minutes and may benefit from great structure thanks to Trotz, as well as a top-5 pick to land a potential 1D, something we haven’t had since Byfuglien.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 mars 2022 à 15 h 0
Sujet:
Big Ones
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>you are just pure nonsense trying to justify this trade, as son as you try to bring up byrams health in an effort to belittle his value as risk....thats just a trash thing to do</div></div>
I wouldn’t be offering a package including our 1C if I didn’t see value in him. That being said, he is much more susceptible to having a career ending injury.
I understand though, Byram and Newhook look to be a sturdy foundation for the future.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 mars 2022 à 14 h 57
Sujet:
Big Ones
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>come on man, you cant be serious thinking you are getting both byram and newhook.
this isnt even remotely close to being something the avs would do or consider, Talk about over valuing jets players</div></div>
There’s some inherent risk for us taking Byram given his history. You’re getting a PPG center who would likely thrive as a 1B behind MacK without as deep of defensive responsibility. Copp is a great middle six player that would likely return Kaut + Compher on his own. Heinola has the skills of a top 4 dman today, and Avs would surely be able to let him flourish unlike Jets coaching staff.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 janv. 2022 à 19 h 32
Sujet:
If WPG Does A Rebuild
I’d certainly listen on Scheifele but not for this offer.
The 1st will be in the 20s, Lysell is a right-hand shot which we need but is small like Ehlers, Perfetti, Connor who are already in our top 6, DeBrusk is more of the same middle-6 left shot guys that we already have an abundance of. Swayman could be a piece we try to get to set up the next core after Hellebuyck, but otherwise I don’t think there’s a good fit between WPG and BOS.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 janv. 2022 à 18 h 15
Sujet:
TDL Sale
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>delneggs</b></div><div>Look at what Drury has done since becoming GM. Traded for Goodrow and Blais, and signed Reaves, Nemeth, Tinordi and Hunt. What do they all have in common? They play physical, in your face hockey, the biggest thing the Rangers have lacked for years. Plus, they are all big players, with the exception of Hunt. Drury also really values leadership. Schneider has all these things and will be cost controlled for several years while the team will be up against the cap. He is also a right shot D. So why on Earth would Drury trade him? The answer is, he won't. He will trade Nils Lundqvist before he trades Schneider. People were talking all sort of garbage about the moves Drury made and how he was a fool. Yeah, 21-8-4 so far this year. The spine he added to the Rangers has made a huge difference and Schneider is part of the future plans.</div></div>
Alright we’ll give you Stanley instead if it’s all about size
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 janv. 2022 à 17 h 33
Sujet:
TDL Sale
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>It’s a great deal for the rangers. Heinola and Schneider have very very similar values. Copp is a pending UFA but would 100% sign a deal in NY, he wants to play in the US. Likely around 4.25 million for 4 years.
Copp is a Swiss Army knife, plays PP, PK, all situations 5on5. He was on pace for 58 pts last year, and on pace for 54 this year. He’s a solid player.</div></div>
Don’t forget he was also good friends with Trouba.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 janv. 2022 à 17 h 32
Sujet:
TDL Sale
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>I like Schneider a lot but he seems like he’s the prototypical two-way RD that has size. Reminds me almost of Cernak from Tampa. He’s going to be good no doubt, but I dont see why he would have more value than Heinola.</div></div>
Exactly my thought. Hopefully could be a 3/4D for Jets for a decade, nothing more.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 juill. 2021 à 23 h 38
Sujet:
Get to Work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hwjw</b></div><div>No Copp, hey?</div></div>
Meant to trade his rights for picks. His contract will just be too steep.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 juill. 2021 à 22 h 17
Sujet:
Dreams
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KPasty</b></div><div>Doubt NYI does this but sign me up for this D-core! Gotta add a 1st for sure</div></div>
Yeah you're probably right. Would only go through with that if Pulock has a handshake agreement he'd sign an extension though (would imagine he would be highly interested being from MB).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 juill. 2021 à 13 h 46
Sujet:
Moving Some Pieces
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>Jets decline that deal so quick lol, and then VAN proceeds to do the same to us. The issue with the VAN deal is that the Jets don’t really have the right piece to give up for boeser. Unless Vancouver would be open to taking like Copp + Vesalainen + 2021 1st. But that’s not close for boeser likely. Maybe they’d be interested in a Boeser + Eriksson for Copp + Samberg + 2021 1st.</div></div>
That’s fair. I think the basis for both trades is possible, albeit unlikely.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 juill. 2021 à 13 h 44
Sujet:
Moving Some Pieces
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rooney</b></div><div>Oh boy that NSH deal is gonna be a big no from me. A 24 year old top goal scorer and our best defensive prospect for 30 year old Ryan Ellis should be an easy no for the Jets. Don't get me wrong either, I would love Ryan Ellis on the Jets but just not for that big of a price.</div></div>
Throw Tomasino in on their side?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 juill. 2021 à 14 h 52
Sujet:
Go Hard
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>I'd hate to lose Tomasino, but that deal might be too good to pass up.</div></div>
Some Jets fans will say it’s too pricey, but to me Connor is the obvious trade bait piece, Stanley is an interesting prospect but I prefer Heinola and Samberg, and Copp doesn’t seem like he’ll sign long-term. Ellis is a today piece for us, and Tomasino helps to replenish our right handed depth (we got none!)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juill. 2021 à 13 h 16
Sujet:
Something different
I like the idea but seems unlikely DAL would willingly trade away Klingberg if they know Oleksiak is also walking.
I would also trade Copp, put Vesalainen in his spot on the 3rd, and spend the money on a more experienced, hard-playing middle-6 winger like Hyman or Coleman.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 juin 2021 à 8 h 24
Sujet:
Unwanted guys
Jets could not accept this deal fast enough. A top RHD prospect and a younger RW who isn’t slow as molasses— sold!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 juin 2021 à 8 h 54
Sujet:
Reworking the D
Absolutely delusional on both the ARI and NYI trades. Why don’t we offer them a 7th rounder in 2029 for Pulock and Chychrun??
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juin 2021 à 15 h 44
Sujet:
Back in the Saddle
Would need to have some certainty over a contract, and some insight into his injury.
Would do the same type of deal, (Copp + 18OA assuming we lose to Habs + Samberg/Heinola) for a top pairing RHS like Parayko, Klingberg, Pulock, Pesce, Ellis etc. with adjustments made depending on contract status or value of player received.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 12 h 20
Sujet:
Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>For me it comes down to 6 years of Connor to 4 years of Marner and Marner not being worth $2.3/ year than Connor and also being a no show in the playoffs. The Jets don't need expensive players that like to rack up points in the easy games, but disappear when you need them.</div></div>
Playoff stat lines favour Marner, though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2021 à 12 h 3
Sujet:
Marner
I’m surprised to see such a quick rejection of the idea. Gives us another right handed forward to replace Wheeler as he will inevitably decline in the coming years. Also much more defensively responsible than Connor or Wheeler, and could dish to Scheifele and Ehlers for years to come.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai 2021 à 11 h 31
Sujet:
Cheviarelli
I’ll let others note whether Parayko could be had for that. Admittedly I hadn’t watched much of the Blues this year, but had heard he was having a down year.
There’s no chance Maurice plays this young of a lineup, though. Also, we’ll need to strike a deal with Seattle to avoid them taking either Appleton, DeMelo, or Stanley. With the extra cash, I’d bring back one of Perreault or Stastny, and have Thompson and Lewis at 800K each.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 avr. 2021 à 12 h 3
Sujet:
TDL21
So, how much would it take to get Ristolainen? Add Vesalainen, Stanley, or Samberg?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 mars 2021 à 19 h 53
Sujet:
Eichel
If it would take a 1st, Connor, Vesalainen and the dump of Perreault I’d do this instantly. Connor becomes excess of Scheifele moves to the wing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 mars 2021 à 10 h 55
Sujet:
Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheMooterus</b></div><div>Possibly, but with Lindell, Heiskanen, and Harley the Stars left side is set for the next 4-5 years, minimum. LD is not really an organizational weakness for them at this point. Their biggest organizational weakness is top-6 goal scorers. Perfetti would fill an organizational weakness better than any other prospect that Winnipeg currently has to offer.
Like I stated above, Heinola is a solid prospect, but doesn't fill an organizational need for the Stars. Harkins is fine, but he's a bottom-6 piece & the Stars have about a dozen players that fall into that role & their prospect pool is full of guys that would also be fine filling a bottom-6 role. He doesn't hold much value at all to Dallas.
If Perfetti isn't included in the trade, I honestly don't know what else Winnipeg would have to offer that would entice Nill & the Stars to trade Klingberg, especially to a division opponent (once things return to normal).
I don't hate the trade value (if the 2nd is bumped to a 1st), but the only way Dallas is moving Klingberg is if they fill a massive need in their organization, and as solid as Heinola is he just doesn't fill that gap in their system.</div></div>
That’s fair - only piece I might argue is that Heinola has played big minutes in both SM Liiga and World Juniors on the right side and looked good. I don’t know Bowness’ tendencies well enough, but if he doesn’t mind running an off-hand dman, it could turn out well for you guys.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 mars 2021 à 9 h 42
Sujet:
Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheMooterus</b></div><div>For an elite offensive, play-driving defenseman that's still got 1 year left on an incredibly team-friendly contract, the Stars don't even pick up the phone unless Perfetti & your 2021 1st are mentioned in the deal</div></div>
I’d be willing to up the 2nd to a 1st, but I can tell you unequivocally that Chevy will not include Perfetti on any deal.
I understand this would mean Dallas retools this year, but by adding Heinola, a late 1st, and potentially a high 1st of your own, that’s a lot of talent to look forward to. Harkins seems like the odd man out at the moment with the expansion draft coming up, but he really showed flashes in the play-ins.
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