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Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 13 h 31
Sujet:
Preds TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SociallyHawkward</b></div><div>Montreal fans still trying to pretend petry has positive value</div></div>
He was considered in the Norris talk last year, but yeah, complete dumpster fire now...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 7
Sujet:
Muzzin ltir until playoffs
When Muzzin returns in the playoffs, I assume he plays 2RD and Lyub moves to 3RD, making for a pretty nice Defense. But I assume Braun and Chara cost more than that, you gonna pay a 3rd and 4th (plus) for 7-8D defensemen?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 10 h 50
Sujet:
Upgrading the Defence
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>Chiarot would be a 3rd pairing D on the Leafs and the ask is a 1st and a 3rd... His plus/minus is -24.
Justin Holl is +10 and playing in unsheltered minutes and on the penalty kill.</div></div>
Chiarot would be 2LD on the Leafs right now. He would be 2RD if Muzzin is able to return. Chiarot is -24 on a team thats -80 overall, playing 23+ minutes a night as their 1LD. Holl is +10 on a team that is +38 overall, playing 20 minutes a night in sheltered minutes. Its almost like Plus/Minus doesn't paint the whole picture. Aside from all that, Chiarot, like Muzzin, is exactly what Toronto needs in the playoffs, minus the annual 1st round injuries.
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Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 10 h 45
Sujet:
Dealing with muzzin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>xercuses</b></div><div>with cap or just cause they get elminated</div></div>
Leafs have two 6-7D on their right side. IF Muzzin is out for the playoffs, they dont stand a chance in the first round.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 10 h 5
Sujet:
Upgrading the Defence
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>He's playing second pairing minutes and is only paid 2M for the next 2 years. If the Habs want a 1st and 3rd for Chiarot than Holl is definitely worth at least a 2nd.</div></div>
2nd line on a team that doesnt have a 2RD... And thats when hes not a healthy scratch.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 9 h 57
Sujet:
Upgrading the Defence
Holl was a healthy scratch, and more of a cap dump than actually worth anything.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 9 h 53
Sujet:
Dealing with muzzin
Ouch... good luck next year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 9 h 44
Sujet:
Deadline ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FiveForFighting</b></div><div>Chiarot to Toronto most likely involves Niemela</div></div>
agreed, if Habs get Holl or Dermott, they are purely cap dumps.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 9 h 36
Sujet:
trade deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Marchy6363</b></div><div>Why get a 1st rounder and a prospect when you can have Justin Muthafackin Holl…</div></div>
Justin "Healthy Scratch" Holl, to you sir
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 9 h 32
Sujet:
What the leafs should do in the offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey247</b></div><div>leafs should go after jeff petry. yeah high cap hit, but he'd be perfect beside muzzin.</div></div>
Hey would be a great fit, but does not want to remain in Canada.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2022 à 9 h 31
Sujet:
What the leafs should do in the offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan34168891</b></div><div>I mean Arizona is for every team in the league. And Mrazek's not trash, and Mrazek/Allen wouldn't be too bad.</div></div>
Montembeault has been fine. Would rather have him return than pay for your Cap Dump.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 févr. 2022 à 11 h 41
Sujet:
MTL swap idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pensfan89</b></div><div>
Maybe there is a dumb gm or 2. However just because there is interest doesn’t mean it’s going to necessarily be 1st round pick interest.</div></div>
If the rumour is a 1st, its because "a dumb GM or 2" is willing to pay that price. If "a dumb GM or 2" is willing to pay that price, that's Lehkonen's value. Debating otherwise is useless, as Gorton and Hughes aren't going to pass up a higher value being offered.
Supply and Demand, Value is what people are willing to pay.
Just say "i dont like this trade" and move on.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 févr. 2022 à 10 h 32
Sujet:
Will habs fans finally come back to earth now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Not trolling at all, I have no clue what you are talking about with Miller. 32 thoughts even mentioned how it was a steal for Calgary</div></div>
You claim all Habs fans were out to lunch... Every post in this ACGM claimed Toffoli wasnt going to get the same return for Miller. Habs got the equivalent to 1st, 2nd, 5th, whatever Pitlick can be flipped for. Which is more than Miller. Proving that Habs fans weren't out to lunch when seeking similar value to Miller. So again, you and others are now moving the goal posts.
OF course Calgary did well, Toffoli is a great player with a great contract and term (hence no retention required). Both teams can do well in a trade. This isn't Foligno for a 1st at the deadline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 févr. 2022 à 9 h 29
Sujet:
Will habs fans finally come back to earth now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>He’s a cheap top 6 winger with term and that’s all they got for him? Everyone was saying Pelletier, Zary ++ which was delusional</div></div>
No, last week it was "he wont get more than Miller got for Tampa...", now its "Thats all you got for him?"
Give it a rest, your goal posts moved and you are trolling.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2022 à 14 h 42
Sujet:
Will habs fans finally come back to earth now
No one was willing to admit Toffoli would get a better return than Miller did a few years back (1st + 3rd + Mazanec) ... Habs got a better return. So please, go on...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2022 à 14 h 35
Sujet:
Will habs fans finally come back to earth now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>He won’t</div></div>
excellent feedback...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2022 à 16 h 59
Sujet:
Whats his value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>If you think Anderson is jut worth a 4.5m....I don't know if teams would want to give up assets. In a cap strapped league, teams can get probably better value than 4.5m via UFA.</div></div>
Surprise surprise, random Leaf fan sees Habs and needs to come in here and trash players that know how to win the the playoffs. Come on man, you are better than this...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2022 à 11 h 15
Sujet:
Kubalik Husso Lybushkin
Habs dont want Barrie, at least not if we are paying for him. As a cap dump with assets coming to Montreal, maybe
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 févr. 2022 à 16 h 36
Sujet:
trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buchnevichh</b></div><div>You can keep him all you want lol hell be well into his 30's before the canadiens are competitive again</div></div>
Ok, then we'll keep him. Both sides agree.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 févr. 2022 à 15 h 43
Sujet:
Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Why would he? Outside of Girard it's not that great.</div></div>
That deal isnt great, but the concept of retaining on Drouin and Allen isnt the issue.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 févr. 2022 à 15 h 38
Sujet:
Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Yeah zero chance of Hughes retaining 50% on Allen and Drouin for the next 1 1/2 He's not doing that.</div></div>
Why not?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 févr. 2022 à 13 h 7
Sujet:
Petry and Chara
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Yeah I am judging him on this season combined with his age.</div></div>
And ignoring all else. Gotcha.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 févr. 2022 à 13 h 7
Sujet:
Petry and Chara
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Being 35 is a huge reason to expect more decline.</div></div>
and his career years we all 30+. He was getting better and better, and now when the entire team is garbage, you think he fell off a cliff? Watch him play, tell me that is a player that's actively trying.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 févr. 2022 à 13 h 6
Sujet:
Petry and Chara
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vr1995</b></div><div>is petrys terrible season this year supposed to be ignored?
that rumoured value is farfetched especially at his current cap hit with no retention, and you wanna talk about homer? LOL
<strong>Dermott and Der-Arguchintsev aren't valuable to any fan outside of Toronto.</strong> you wanna bring up typical but you say the most typical response
that dead weight contract has more points then your "calder trophy winning sniper" im not saying it isnt bad, but wow is that hilarious</div></div>
Petry had career year after career year leading up to this season, which has been plagued with significant injuries to key players, to himself, off ice/family issues, and an awful coach. Are we suppose to ignore last year/potential causes for his poor play because it helps your narrative?
Dermott is a dime a dozen depth defenseman, we have those in spades. Der is a decent, not good, prospect, we have some of those as well. These players dont move any needles, they are fillers.
so the bar you compare every player to is a rookie going through a slump? ok
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 févr. 2022 à 10 h 32
Sujet:
Petry and Chara
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vr1995</b></div><div>please explain how this isnt an overpay for the leafs</div></div>
... typical.
Here, i'll provide my opinion since you couldn't break it down on your own.
Petry rumoured value = 1st round pick + Amirov
$3,125,000 x 4 years retention = Dermott (3-4RD) + Der-Arguchintsev + (some of Amirov's value)
Ritchie Cap Dump = 2nd round pick
Its a lot of pieces, but one of your pieces is a dead weight contract with negative value. Dermott and Der-Arguchintsev aren't valuable to any fan outside of Toronto. Leafs spent a 1st on Marleau's $6M for 1 year. You are getting Habs to eat $3.1M for 4 years.
This deal is closer than your homers want to admit, which is all useless because Petry would refuse to go to Toronto anyway. But yeah, we're the "clowns"
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