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Forum: Armchair-GM15 avr. à 10 h 34
Sujet: Yzerman might actually be predictable this off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>Netflix didn't make cuts because they were expensive to make, they made cuts because the streaming war has cut away at their growth and profit margins.
They aren't the only game in town and they can no longer spend without being competitive just like Disney.

Sports aren't cheap and wwe isn't a sport, it's fake....crazy right, i know you thought it was real. In many cases they have found paying for sports no one watches isn't worth it. Which is why many large brands have walked away from expensive sports advertising, like the superbowl. But keep thinking the shrinking audience doesn't matter.

The fall of cable has nothing to do with viewership. The numbers aren't balanced out by streaming. This is a known fact. They are just gone.
Every analyst has said... people just watch highlights on their phone now, they don't watch the games. So that's a dead argument. You think a shrinking audience doesn't mean shrinking revenue, it does.
For the record no one ran from the McAvoy conversation. There are many comparables out there. Again the point is he's not getting 11.5. in 2 years You just don't want to admit that.

You can cry Makar isn't relevant all day.... but it is and that's that. He's not making more than him. The production isn't there 2 years shorter deal or not.



and yet 3 body problem got higher ratings than the NHL ever will.</div></div>

Jesus Christ you really are stubborn enough to keep making yourself look like more and more of an idiot. :tearsofjoy

1. This is kinda the same thing dude... They made cuts because the movies weren't worth what they were spending on them anymore.

2. Uhh yes, sports are very cheap compared to original content. And whether you like it or not, WWE is a regular event, broadcasted from an arena, that sells their broadcasting rights to the highest bidder. I never said it was a sport. It does operate on a similar business structure as sports, particularly when it comes to broadcasting. But I'm not surprised you had to nit-pick at this because your arguments have been pathetic thus far.

3. Weird. "Many large brands have walked away from expensive sports advertising, like the superbowl", and yet the Superbowl keeps charging more and more for ads...

4. "You keep thinking a shrinking audience doesn't mean shrinking revenue, it does." Well this is just a weird argument considering... The revenue isn't shrinking. :tearsofjoy

5. Nah bud, you definitely ran from the McAvoy conversation when you tried contesting what his contract would inflate to and then found out that it was indeed $11.3M.

6. There's no crying about Makar's relevancy. There's laughing that you keep bringing it up because it's stupid. :tearsofjoy A player on his third contract at 8 years buying six years of UFA is not remotely close to a player on his 2nd contract at 6 years buying two years of UFA. In fact... The 8 year deal proposed for Seider on his second contract is comparatively WELL UNDER what Makar got, for more years. Keep eating Ls on this, though.

You can yell and scream and **** and moan until you're blue in the face that they're the same, but they're not.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 avr. à 9 h 20
Sujet: Yzerman might actually be predictable this off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>you really don't want to get into the convo about netflix as they are making massive cuts to their movie making departments. And have laid off large portions of their work force.
I mean honestly.

Again, you don't know the revenue growth stop pretending you do. It's not a linear curve.
They did everything they could to get those numbers those final 3 years. The years before they weren't putting logos on helmets, in game advertisements, and digital adds all over the ice, 2 tv contracts and streaming rights.
There is only so much you can do to keep growth like that..... especially with a known declining viewership. Stop pretending you are smart, your clearly not. They are running out of ways to add and a lot of their attempts are turning the viewership away. Which is why it's declined massively over 2 years.

Again, you keep ranting about how Makar isn't relevant. I don't care if Makar signed a 6 year deal. You are talking about a defense man who was a PPG player when he signed his deal. Seider isn't getting paid close to what he's getting paid. Period. the value of the player alone, dwarfs the 2 year difference in contract length and you really fail to understand that.</div></div>

1. Oh no buddy, I absolutely want to talk about Netflix. Because you're gonna lose that one, too. Do you know why Netflix is making cuts to their original content? Movies cost millions to produce. Do you know what's cheap? <em>Sports and live events... </em> Crazy right?! It's almost like that's why they signed that $5B contract with the WWE...

2. Those numbers cited are literally from the NHL. Try again.

3. You keep citing "Declining viewership" like the death of cable hasn't been going on since the early 2000s... Again, it's weird how you think this is relevant considering the numbers I cited were for a 25-26 cap and a 26-27 cap, and the league's US TV deals are guaranteed until the end of the 27-28 season.

4. I'm not pretending I'm smart at all, but I'm definitely smarter than you. Not that that's hard to do, apparently.

5. Makar isn't relevant lol. You want an 8 year deal on Mo after a two year bridge. Makar signed a 6 year deal after his ELC. Makar's contract buys 2 years of UFA. What you're asking for Seider would buy SIX. There is a clear difference there. You refuse to see it because you can't accept that<em> you're wrong.</em>

6. Again, appreciate that you have run from the McAvoy discussion after you compared him to Seider without realizing what his contract would inflate to.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 avr. à 8 h 53
Sujet: Yzerman might actually be predictable this off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>there are plenty of players who have 1 or 2 good years and then fall apart. Don't think it can't happen. The point is teams want to see on a lot of players to know what they are getting.
Makar is 11% of cap that's where we are. You seem to think Seider is getting more than him. He's not. This idea he's getting 11.5 is absurd and that's the point. Like I said, he might as well ask for his 10.2 now by your attitude.

As far as the league revenue growth, their viewing audience is shrinking right now. Like many major sports. So to think that the revenue is set to predict this for 3 years is all smoke and mirrors.
Ratings are down this year compared to last, and last year they took a real hit.
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/nhl-regular-season-2022-23-us-tv-ratings-audience-viewers-espn-turner-tnt/
down 22% in 2023. So lets not pretend, the money is growing 200m+ a season year after year. There is a lot of reason to not believe that. They have expanded every direction they could. From 2 tv contracts in the US, to logos on helmets over the years. Streaming contracts etc... but much like Netflix and other streaming services are cutting back, eventually those hits are going to come to the NHL as the audience is shrinking. People consume differently if at all now a days. Which is why you can't predict 3 years out. As the numbers are pointing down.
None of that is rocket science either.
So lets not try to predict the salary cap in 3 years. You don't know.</div></div>

1. Yes, Seider is definitely going to fall apart. :tearsofjoy

2. You keep talking about Makar and it's honestly hilarious to me. He literally doesn't apply. Signed a 6 year deal on his 2nd contract and you're asking for 8 years on a third deal. These are not the same thing. Stop comparing the two. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. Dunno how much more clearly you need that spelled out.

3. Super weird how you abandoned ship on McAvoy when you realized you messed up there...

4. Audiences have been shrinking on TV for decades and yet TV revenue continues to increase across every sport. Not to mention you're citing US ratings and the US TV contract doesn't end until after the 2027-2028 season... Which is a year after where I'm projecting. :tearsofjoy

5. "So lets not pretend the money is growing $200M+ a season year after year."

Hmmmmm...

13/14 - $3.7B
14/15 - $3.98B
15/16 - $4.1B
16/17 - $4.43B
17/18 - $4.86B
18/19 - $5.09B
19/20 - $4.37B (COVID Playoffs)
20/21 - $2.33B (COVID Season)
21/22 - $5.93B ($840B increase over three seasons)

Pretty sure I don't have to pretend...

6. Netflix is an interesting example to use for "Cutting back" considering they just signed WWE to a $5B contract... You're arguing just to argue at this point, and you're doing a bad job at it. Stop.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 avr. à 0 h 31
Forum: Armchair-GM14 avr. à 23 h 2
Sujet: 3 Trades 3 New UFAs and Youth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dca919</b></div><div>Seider will be the top pair RHD. If you are arguing this full stop.

Petry has a 15 team NTC and a NMC (so can't bury him). He has a retained cap trade with a $2,343,750 remaining cap. There is no reason to buyout that remaining amount.

Holl has a 10 team NTC. But more importantly a 3.4M cap hit (so no team is going to take him without retention and a sweetener) was brought in before the Ghost signing and Petry trade to be what he will next year: a 3rd pair d-man. He might not be the best NHL d-man, but he will be a 3rd pair rather than wasting a buyout or a sweetened trade to save a couple million when Maatta and Fabbri are the most likely to get traded for cap relief (as they already have cheaper internal replacements at those positions).</div></div>

Imagine hearing an objection to your insisted upon Seider/Petry/Holl RD lineup and leading off thinking Seider was the issue...