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Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2023 à 14 h 38
Sujet: Per Dubas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>LeBrun said they want to trade Wheeler, but he has a five team NTC and they might buy him out instead if no trade materializes. You think WPG ownership wants to eat dead money? Chevy said he wants roster players not futures either. All in all, not looking like WPG has ANY leverage whatsoever. I do think fair in this context would be PIT adding a pick, but you aren't getting fair value on Wheeler either.</div></div>

WPG's ownership might not want to eat dead money, but might not want to pay 11 million (actual dollars---5 million AAV) by acquiring Granlund instead of the 8.25 owed Wheeler, either . . . unless, of course, Chevy is somehow convinced (doubtful) that Granlund makes the Jets a better team. Mind you, Granlund's dollars would be spread over 2 seasons . . . So who knows. Maybe ownership is just that frugal! (Co-owner David Thomson was recently listed as the 4th richest sports team owner in the world.)

But when Chevy said he wanted roster players to remain competitive, fairly confident he was talking about the return on higher value assets like Dubois &amp; Hellebuyck, maybe even Scheifele.

Addition by subtraction, sometimes. WPG might have to retain on Wheeler (up to 4.125) to get a more favorable return, or buy out is 5.5 million, but either option comes in less than 11 million . . . so again, leverage or not, unless Jets really like something about Granlund's game, the trade proposed is bad business.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2023 à 0 h 4
Sujet: Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IjustNEEDaTROYgamble</b></div><div>I think Francis does this because they need a better 1C and saw what Eichel did to get Vegas over the hump</div></div>

I like Lindholm, alot, but I also think he may be slightly (just slightly) mis-cast as a first-line center in Calgary. He had a great offensive year centering two elite wingers with career seasons in 21/22, which certainly raised his value. I believe Calgary showed that by signing Kadri, also, expecting <em>him</em> to be the 1C, but hey, I might be wrong.

Anyway, pretty sure Seattle is very optimistic that 1C belongs to Beniers, and that Wright becomes the 2C in the very near future. But regardless, it is again, ultimately, too prohibitive a cost in your proposed trade to essentially swap quality d-men and ship out Seattle's top prospect and top 4 picks, along with one of Seattle's MVP's for Lindholm and Kylington, IMO.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2023 à 23 h 31
Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2023 à 19 h 41
Sujet: Retooling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>arafay</b></div><div>Yes, but the jets don’t need cap space next year. They can easily retain on wheeler and move on. No point in tying up cap next year when you might need it, vs now when you definitely don’t. All while saving real dollars, which does matter to a small market team like the jets.</div></div>

I agree, the actual dollars definitely matter to the Jets. Not sure of your point, though . . . you start by saying the Jets don't need cap space next year, then you go on to say they may need it next season as a reason to trade him and retain half his salary. (?) And you say they can easily retain on him and move on; I think it's likely that the same can be said about buying him out---if the owner can stomach the extra million or so, of course! It's quite doubtful they'll be flirting with the cap ceiling next season, especially if/when the cap rises as predicted.

Anyway, I'm sure we'll have our answer soon enough! But hey, if they can get some team to deal a 2nd rounder for him, absolutely they should retain half his salary and bd done with it!!

(Again, it just won't be Seattle! Lol)^^
Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2023 à 13 h 28
Sujet: better without paying
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>I think the 2nd is fair for the dump of Driedger alone, I include wennberg not as a negative value asset, but as a 0 value piece. I think keeping him prevents wright from jumping in.</div></div>

KrakenTheCode didn't say one way or another that a 2nd Rounder wouldn't be fair value to dump Driedger, just that Seattle wouldn't need to pay it based on their cap situation. Furthermore, if they really want him gone, they could easily buy Driedger out and it would only cost them $500,000 against the cap this season. . . . Save them <em>whatever</em> draft capital it might cost to dump him somewhere.

If Seattle chose to trade Wennberg, I think there's a move somewhere that would make more sense than just gifting him to Arizona . . . especially if Seattle retained on his final year.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2023 à 11 h 0
Sujet: Could Dubas pull off The Return
I agree with what KrakBirds23 said, that Seattle would only likely do this to get a guy they really like if still available at 14, probably a d-man.

But Francis loves him some Geekie, too! I think it's more likely you remove the players from this deal and up the 2nd Rounder going to PIT as either WPG's (50oa) or Seattle's own (52oa), maybe SEA throws on a little something more if they really like who's available!

Dubas has a history of trading down, but not sure he'd do it at this draft, his first with the new club!

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KrakBirds23</b></div><div>I think Seattle passes at the end of the day. Poulin isn't worth the first and the second, and I don't think he offers more than Geekie. Moving up 6 spots in the draft may be on the table but I think Seattle holds pat on the pick at 20 for now as there isn't that big of a drop in talent there. Only reason I could see them moving up is if there is a d-man they prefer.</div></div>