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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures
Sujet: Bold move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>That's some very generic reasoning that is very tilted to a Montreal perspective in this trade. Every draft is a "deep draft" to the team that wants to trade extra picks to move up. I'd still much rather pick quality over quantity. You'd need something much closer to the late 30's/early 40's if there was an interest in moving up into the top-20 from LA. Not late 50's.



With regards to the bolded part of your quote -- You and every other Montreal fan on here. Just like the responses on their boards, the Kings don't have an interest in Harris or Struble. Neither of them play over Anderson, Gavrikov, or Englund.

In addition, LA is certainly not prepared to give up on Turcotte. They recognize his development problems have been injury related, not skill related. Even this year, he played on the top line with Kopitar and Byfield. He will make the team out of camp next year, there won't be a need to worry about waivers. His ceiling might not be what they hoped, but he has shown when he's healthy he's a middle-6'er at the NHL level. And the Kings will need his lower cap hit to help fill out the rest of the roster.



Lol. I'm not fan of PLD, by any means. But they aren't going to pay a 1st round pick just to off-load someone who automatically becomes your 2nd line center. If he was being paid 5-6mil nobody would be batting an eye at his production. That means he's overpaid by 2.5-3.5mil, not 8.5mil. He's a pain to have to deal with in terms of cap, but LA is more than likely stuck with him.</div></div>

If Anderson was making 2-3 million no one would be batting an eye either
Shaving 2.5 to 3m off one's Salary has that effect

Reality is MTL didnt want to move Subban either and were already committed to moving Pacioretty to end their spat
But Subban underperformed and before his NMC kicked in MTL moved him which turned out to be the right call long term.
LAK waiting means you accept him remaining there the next 4 years


Far as Turcotte i dont even care about him that much, only reason i even had any interest is like i said for Laval Rockets Purposes as i truly believe he isnt an NHL play anymore then Lias Anderson. That said Lias Anderson has turned out to be great for our AHL core hence the idea of re-uniting them in Laval. IMO even a Harris would be overpaying for Turcotte at this point in his career. Its why i nonchalantly mentioned it to test the waters to see if LAK fans have lowered their ask again this year(as each year it does drop with you guys)

Far as the picks go i think you're right MTL is better off keeping them and you're better off with the 19th OA pick
MTL doesnt really need to move up to get quality in this draft and worst case we can grab Cole Hutson who set to join his brother Quinn in Boston next year to assume Lane's spot likely beside Willander

TBH moving up 6 spots means very little for a 19th OA pick if we we trading up from 19th that'd be different
But who knows , until we see who goes top 5 its hard to predict where players fall as last summers Concensus top 3 Eiserman might not even go top 10 at this point.
Forum: Armchair-GM20 déc. 2023 à 14 h 47
Sujet: ByeBoByram
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>"Trade block" as in the list of players the Kings have as pieces they'd be willing to trade.

And yes, the assets going out from the Kings side are much more likely to have a higher impact on the Kings in the present than what's being returned.
1) Danault has a higher impact than Byram would on the LA roster, because Byram would slot in at 3LD. A spot taken up perfectly adequately by Englund at the moment.
2) Bjornfot is an NHL player without a spot on the roster. I'd argue he's probably a tradeable piece, but the Kings are more likely to hold on to him for depth purposes in the event of injuries around playoff time. I equate him to the first round pick, which likely won't be an NHL ready roster player for 3+ years, seeing as Colorado isn't going to be picking near the top of the draft for some time.
3) Portillo and Annunen are I guess close to an even swap, but Portillo currently has better stats in the AHL, is a year younger, and the Kings just recently traded assets for him. Not sure why they'd be interested in already moving on.

I'm not saying your value is off. I'm saying the Kings don't make the trade because it doesn't effect their immediate Cup-contention capabilities in a positive way. I'd argue it actually makes them worse right now. Danault just makes a greater impact on this team than Byram would, and losing Bjornfot means hurting the depth of the immediate team in case of injuries. It just doesn't make sense for LA.</div></div>

Very fair and well reasoned. Thanks!
Forum: Armchair-GM28 nov. 2023 à 12 h 15
Sujet: Fire Jarmo Demote Pascal Hire new GM and Hire Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>I like Damon Severson. But he doesn't get you Byfield.

And that's even before considering that LA has zero need for right-handed defenseman, seeing as even after trading away three in the offseason (Walker, Durzi and Grans), they still don't have the room for their blue-chip prospect Brandt Clarke. Doughty, Roy, and Spence are all extremely good RD right now. No need for Severson at all.

Kings decline.</div></div>

I love this comment however this is based in next years off season where a good bit of your defense is in FA while i think you will resign a lot of them i still feel like severson would fit as he can also being a LD if needed. i got rid of the trade anyway
Forum: Armchair-GM5 sept. 2023 à 13 h 26
Sujet: This team is so good minus goaltending
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>I think Vegas has a 10x better coach that was able to create a legit gameplan around EDM. Not to mention their bottom 6 was deeper than LA's. And the final piece of the puzzle was the fact that their defenseman are essentially redwood trees. Huge guys who were able to keep Draisaitl and McDavid to the perimeter.

One of LA's weaknesses has been the size on the back-end. Bringing in Clarke over Durzi should help that, as will a full year of Gavrikov. And finally, Edler was just so... old haha. Great player for his time, but trying to keep up with the speed of EDM was not good for him.

And I looked at the stats for Drew. They do point to him struggling more than I remember.</div></div>

Vegas found guys that would lock up Drai and McDavid (minus G1) and made sure this matchups stayed (with the 11-7 that I suggest)... And as long as both those guys stay calm, it would have been a LA win IMO, no matter the bottom 6

Fair... I'm really a fan of Clarke and I think bog things are in store for him

Again, this isn't a "oh Doughty sucks", this was a "Doughty underperformed which is unusual for a guy like him"
Forum: Armchair-GM16 juill. 2023 à 18 h 8
Sujet: Avs fans are all kinds of funny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>lmao. Your reasoning is effectively throw away the key at any type of unruly behaviour. Tell me you are out of touch without telling me. These are all kids that make mistakes. Mailloux made a mistake that 95% kids would love as their worst.



One sided lol. 3rd round picks and players that teams cant afford. Calm down.</div></div>

My reasoning is that as a woman I have a right to expect men who sexually exploit or rape women should not have the opportunity to become an international athlete. Think of it this way, would you want your son to idolize a player who ruined a woman's life? It wasn't a "mistake". It was a conscious decision he made to make himself more popular. He never once considered how that decision would affect the other party involved. You need to put the boys club mentality behind you and accept that these behaviors are no longer OK. Boys will be boys, but boys will also be held accountable
Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2023 à 10 h 38
Sujet: PLD I guess
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>Quite frankly, I'm of the opinion Blake just runs it back from last year. Sign Vilardi to a 3.5-4mil deal, sign Korpisalo to a 2mil deal, move Grundstrom and Lizotte if needed for the space, and hope your young guys continue to build, which it seems they are.

This possible move terrifies me.</div></div>
1,000% agree. Even with the questionable Gavrikov move, we were a goalie away from being a good contender, with an additional year's experience for all the younger players. Even if the only goalie we could get was the equivalent of another backup goaltender like Copley, that would be an improvement over the proposed acquisition of Dubois at the cost of some of our players. If there was EVER proof of the veracity of the old saw that sometimes, the best trades are the ones that you DON'T make, this is it.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2023 à 10 h 8
Sujet: PLD I guess
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>Not a hot take at all. If this actually goes through, many of us Kings fans will be pissed.</div></div>
This would be disastrously bad for us. I think it might wreck the team, which up to now was building nicely to contender status. Dubois is a selfish whiner and a quitter -- two qualities you rarely want in a team sport. He's quit on two teams and two sets of teammates, and I foresee him quitting on the Kings three seasons down the road if not sooner. This would be a completely wrong turn for us.

Acquiring Vladi Gavrikov with a 2023 first-round draft pick and paying him $5,875,000 instead of getting Jake McCabe ($2 million) for a 2024 first-round draft pick and signing another veteran LhD like Carson Soucy ($3.5 million) was a bad mistake which we could have survived. This one, we can't.

Of course, all these rumors may be mis-direction. Maybe Blake is actually doing his job and working out a deal for Connor Hellebuyck. We can only hope.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 mai 2023 à 10 h 52
Sujet: Chaos In the T-Dot
Yep -- those are three guys the Kings won't trade and one guy the Kings won't trade for.

Marner is the worst of the Big Three for fit with Los Angeles. Whereas some arguable rationalization exists for Matthews to LA or Nylander to LA, none whatsoever exists for Marner coming here. Right now, we have $7.5 million in cap space with 7 -- count 'em, seven -- roster slots open, and since Clarke and Vilardi don't count towards the roster or the cap right now, this trade would put us $2.5 million over the cap with 8 roster slots to fill. These facts aren't my opinion -- this is inescapable numerical certainty. And adding more assets on our side to close the cap gulf just makes the problem worse.

Now aside from the cap definitiveness, let's consider the philosophical subject of roster structure. We're not going to sacrifice our future based upon building from the ground up to look like top-heavy Toronto or Edmonton, with stars whose cost is so high that it's impossible to assemble a proper supporting cast. We're doing fine; we're on the upswing. I suspect that the reason for the dozen-or-more-a-day Big Three trades to Los Angeles stems from the realization, conscious or not, that the end may be near for the Maple Leafs because if one of Matthews, Marner or Nylander leaves as a free agent, a collapse is possible. We can afford to add Auston Matthews as a free agent in 2024, but neither Marner nor Nylander fits the Kings either as a free agent or a trade acquisition, and both run completely counter to the theory on which the Los Angeles roster has been carefully assembled.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 mai 2023 à 18 h 42
Sujet: This is the Price for Matthews and i
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>I agree with the notion that you can just get Matthews for free next year is silly because only one team can sign him. That being said PuckLuck_77 has a point, LA isn't going to give up 3 of their best assets, when they will try to give none. It's pretty easy to rule out Clarke just based on the future need of a 1D and the value of the ELC due to the cap crunch they are facing (just how the Leafs probably won't trade Knies any time soon). It could be a C prospect + Kempe+former 1st that needs contracts now/soon like Vilardi and then other futures, possibly another roster player (maybe Roy) to make the cap work.

Matthew's full NMC would complicate things though, he's likely not going to get traded and either end up signing a deal or testing FA.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>We can have differing opinions and that's alright. As someone who follows the Kings I don't think they do what you think would be feasible. It doesn't make sense for the team.

I have a couple of nitpicks with your statement:

1) Clarke HAS played NHL games. Not a ton, mind you. But he has. And he looked VERY good in those games.
2) The pressure on Byfield to match "the hype of a #2 overall pick" is so blown out of proportion. Everyone wants results in the immediate, but he's a 20 year old that the Kings went into the draft KNOWING would take a few more years. They are aware it's the long game with Byfield. By the end of the season and into the playoffs, Byfield was playing on the top line with LA forming a great trio with Kopitar and Kempe. Would I have liked him to progress faster? Sure. But this season matched about what I was hoping for to start the season for him -- ~40 point pace over 82 games. I think he ended with a ~35 ish point pace after recovering from injury.

I could absolutely argue that fans place too much value on Matthews, as much as you argue fans place too much value on prospects. Players don't get that kind of return in trades. It just doesn't happen. Eichel was the closest, but even he didn't bring back two top 10 picks, a 40 goal scorer, and another 1st round pick. And despite his injuries, he has cost certainty of 5mil less than what Matthews is likely to demand.</div></div>

Tbf, I can see the point about Clarke and just meaning more to LA because they see him as the future #1 defenceman in a weaker defensive prospect system. That’s tough to give up. But if you look at it from Toronto’s view, I don’t think there’s much of a chance that anything gets any traction if Byfield isn’t the starting point at minimum. I get it, he’s young and expected to be good. But you’d be getting Matthews in his prime for almost a decade (again I believe any deal for Matthews comes with an extension for him). So you’re getting the sure thing as a superstar top 15 player in the game, for a guy that you’re hoping develops into a top 6 centre. So it HAS to start with him. I would think Kempe stays in LA - if your the Kings you get Matthews to help Kempe maintain the best production he can get, not move him. So for cap purposes I think Iafallo fits. So I’d say now for the starting basis we’re at Byfield + Iafallo + 1st round pick (if not 2 1sts). And probably add in another good prospect as well. Maybe Clarke, but a different defensive guy. For the record I also think that if Matthews is moved then Toronto should consider retaining 50% of his contract for next season to help maximize the amount of suitors and the return. The extension is 100% on the acquiring team cause they’d be signing him to it in free agency anyways. But Matthews at 50% retained even for 1 season plus an extension is not going to come cheap
Forum: Armchair-GM13 mai 2023 à 14 h 36
Sujet: Trotz comes in with a bang
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>Whereas I think there's a significant enough value drop between +1st/-3rd versus +2nd/+3rd that I don't think LA accepts the second offer. Like you said, it's a two way street.

My targets for a Durzi trade are teams that have multiple firsts and don't want to do a full rebuild. St Louis is at the top of my list, if they can move one of Krug or Faulk. Nashville seems like a good option as well because they simply can't move their huge salary players and Saros/Josi are too good to tank. They'd also still be getting one of those 1st RD prospects that you mention with their better pick.</div></div>

Definitely the targets I was thinking of too. But yeah, I guess we’ll see on what he goes for.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 mai 2023 à 14 h 25
Sujet: Trotz comes in with a bang
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>If a 40 point right handed defenseman capable of playing both sides and running a team's #1 PP doesn't return a 1st, I don't know what does.

He's got his flaws, sure, which is why I think LA would need to send a lower pick back. But if a team was acquiring Durzi, they're looking for a specific set of talents that he provides very well.</div></div>

I guess where I’m at is that if you need to add a balancing pick to upgrade the return to a 1st, it’s unlikely that will materialize. Teams will probably hold the first and give away the lower picks, it’s a 2-way street.

Those 1st RD picks now have a prospect in a GM’s eye rather than a thought of lifting the cup like they did at the TDL.