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Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 13 heures
Sujet:
CHI Trade at draft
RHP is not an NHL player and he's not a RW or RD, either. He's 25 (two-and-a-half years older than Kaliyev) yet has only 83 NHL games under his belt (Kaliyev has 188).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 13 heures
Sujet:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>Calgary 1st in 2025 (is a 1st)
Justin Barron (2020 1st, Pick 25)
Filip Mesar (2022 1st, Pick 26)
Owen Beck (2022 2nd, Pick 33) = Almost a 1st
I am not saying Anaheim wants to trade Zegras. But that is 3 firsts and more. And no 3 1st rounders have the same value. We understand that.
In reference:
Jack Eichel to Vegas:
16th overall, 17th overall, and 18th overall pick coming back to Buffalo.
What would you like from Chicago for Zegras?</div></div>
Do you REALLY think that someone is going to give you a 2024 first-round draft pick for any of those three prospects?!?
And this is before we get into the discussion of the difference between a 2024 first, whose placement if not completely fixed is at least known within narrow parameters, and a 2025 pick which, in some instances, may not even be that pick at all (i.e., the Calgary first) or even that year (in the case of top-10 protection).
By the way, the Eichel trade included Alex Tuch, who would be a top-10 pick from his draft were that selection held today.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 14 heures
Sujet:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>If the Habs were moving on from Caufield, not that they are, what would you offer for him? (You <strong>cannot</strong> add Zegras to this mock trade)
What I would like to understand is what you consider a fair package, in terms of value. (eg. Josh Anderson, a power forward, with 50% retained, has value, how much can be debated, but this in my eyes is not a cap dump like some are claiming.)</div></div>
Pavel Mintyukov.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 14 heures
Sujet:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Nobody but Gretzky is worth 3x1st+. Certainly not Zegras.</div></div>
The fact that you see three firsts here, and the fact that you think all firsts are the same, are emblematic of the myopia that afflicts many Habs fans.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 14 heures
Sujet:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Then why use Caufield as a comparison when there's that major difference in organizations opinion of their player? Lol
This is why everyone is speculating a Zegras trade, him and management are on shaky grounds.</div></div>
What an absurdedly fatuous statement. On-ice value is what determines whether two players are comparable, not how intelligent their respective front offices are. "LOL" indeed.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 14 heures
Sujet:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>I don't remember the Habs having trouble signing Caufield to a long term contract and him holding out. I don't think Anaheim wants to move on from Zegras but I also don't think he's a Verbeek type player and that's evident from how far apart they were in contract discussions.</div></div>
Pat Verbeek didn't "have trouble signing" Zegras to a long-term contract; he didn't offer him one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 14 heures
Sujet:
Zegras Since the Rumors Be Rolling Neither Side Should Do This
Thank you for these companion posts.
In his two comment in this thread, <a href="/users/Lancebmx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Lancebmx</a>, a non-Anaheim fan, has brilliantly, correctly and perfectly set forth our position on Zegras' trade value: a comparable high-end asset. Think of the Gauthier-Drysdale or Bowen-Mittelstadt trades. The only two such assets you have on your books that you might be willing to give up are David Reinbacher or your own 2024 first. (You're not about to part with Caufield or Slafkovsky, and Suzuki and Guhle aren't RWs or RDs.) A bunch of moderate values like the Winnipeg or 2025 firsts just don't do it.
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Armchair-GM
il y a 14 heures
Sujet:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
The Ducks aren't "moving on" from Trevor Zegras any more than the Habs are "moving on" from Cole Caufield.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 22 heures
Sujet:
Turning every team into a playoff team
Why should we, a small-market team, throw away $7.5 million just for the sheer unalloyed joy of trading away three seasons of starting goaltending?
On a related note, what value do you think the Winnipeg third has when the Ducks have three earlier picks in that round and a total of SEVEN picks ahead of it?
And on a similar note, when do you project that a prospect selected with a 2025 second would actually hit the ice, if ever?
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Armchair-GM
il y a 22 heures
Sujet:
asimpleplan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StutzlesNumber1Fan</b></div><div>Off topic from this post but is there any chance in this universe LAK would accept a deal around pick #7 or Ridly for Brandt?</div></div>
Nope. And I think that would be true even if we manage to re-sign Matt Roy, which I think is unlikely. And I won't embarrass myself or my fellow Kings fans by offering Jordan Spence plus our own first for #7.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 22 heures
Sujet:
2025-26 Playoffs
Anaheim already owns Edmonton's 2024 first plus pick #35, so how much of an extra <strong><em>mitzvah</em></strong> do you think that the Winnipeg choice will be, even though it will be earlier than the Oilers'?
Similarly, Anaheim already owns an "extra" 2024 second, which has the advantage of time over the Pittsburgh choice, plus two thirds in that draft, so the last element in that offer won't make Pat Verbeek swoon, either.
I can guarantee you that the forward selected with Anaheim's own 2024 first will be a better prospect than Sean Farrell, or the defenseman selected with Anaheim's own 2024 first will be a better prospect than Justin Barron, so as my esteemed friend says, what is there in that offer that would persuade us to give you a top-6 forward whose production is the same as Cole Caufield's? You yourself don't think that either of those youngsters merits more than a near-League-minimum deal for his second contract.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 23 heures
Sujet:
asimpleplan
No chance that Brandt Clarke is on the market for any single player you own, including MacKenzie Weegar.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 23 h 9
Sujet:
Pens
With our lack of depth at RW, there's an underdog possibility that we would give you a fourth-round draft pick for Emil Bemstrom. The other four elements of that trade, individually or collectively, wouldn't get you anyone on our roster, let alone two starters, let alone Trevor Zegras.
You could offer us the rights to the unsigned Brayden Yager and your 2025 first-round draft pick and that wouldn't get you Trevor Zegras, or Cole Caufield or Martin Necas for that matter.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 21 h 59
Sujet:
Verbeek reveals plan
We CF Anaheim fans have been saying this since January. Just have a look through the ACGMs we've been posting. My favorites have been Reinhart and Pesce, but I don't know how likely they are.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 21 h 56
Sujet:
Verbeek reveals plan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>Basically, he just confirmed Zegras for Dvorak and Kovacevic</div></div>
Too subtle. You should have said Anderson and Kovacevic.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 19 h 7
Sujet:
Cap space
I'll never understand the thought process (and I use that term charitably) that basically runs "DuBois is garbage, so we'll give the Kings garbage for him, so then we'll have garbage DuBois on <strong>our</strong> team, oh boy, oh boy."
I know that Vejmelka and pick 49 aren't exactly garbage, but DuBois had a better year than Barrett Hayton (pro-rated) or Ryan Johansen (with Colorado).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 17 h 52
Sujet:
What you think
Byfield is an automatic No for value reasons, Anderson is an automatic No for cap reasons, and DuBois is an automatic No because it would be suicide for Blake, Bergevin and Robitaille.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 16 h 46
Sujet:
Is this better
Los Angeles won't be giving up Portillo on the way back in a Swayman trade, and won't be trading Brandt Clarke at all.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Hier à 14 h 35
Sujet:
Playoffs push
What in the world would make you think that we would trade Troy Terry for a left-handed bottom-4 defenseman, of all things, and two futures?!?
You can't construct intelligent trade proposals by starting with what assets you think are comfortably expendable. The first step in any such construction is deciding what asset(s) you would like from a team (here, our top-6 RW), and the second step is to imagine what that team needs and would want in exchange for said asset(s). For Anaheim, that's a quality RW or RD at the minimum. So Terry for David Reinbacher and your 2025 second would be right on value, but we're not trading our best RW.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 14 h 21
Sujet:
honestly want to know if either team would do this
More likely, but still unlikely, is New Jersey exchanging firsts and adding something for Jordan Binnington, but that would depend upon his M-NTC.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 14 h 12
Sujet:
Fantastic Off-season
Los Angeles isn't trading local boy and fan favorite Trevor Moore, who just keeps getting better. And the Chychrun ship sailed at the trade deadline. For next season, we have much more important cap priorities, like re-signing Matt Roy if possible and if not, getting winger help for poor Pierre-Luc DuBois and filling both goaltender vacancies. And even if the only Kings game you watched all season was last night's, you should know that Chychrun isn't the answer to whatever ails LA defensively.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 13 h 56
Sujet:
full rebuild
We've been patient with Alex Turcotte this far . . . no reason to give up on him now in exchange for a 26-year-old fourth liner on a near-League-minimum contract and two dart throws.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 13 h 50
Sujet:
Some Changes
Anaheim has 5 NHL-qualified left-handed defensemen under team control for next season already. Who do you think we are, Buffalo?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 12 h 13
Sujet:
Devils roster revamp Sam Reinhart spalsh
Someone will offer Matt Roy at least $5 million for 5 seasons.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 12 h 8
Sujet:
goalie swap
A 26-year-old lame duck fourth liner on a near-League-minimum contract as the (only) current asset for a 23-year-old top-6 LW who could be under team control for anywhere from 4 to 10 more seasons?
Replace the draft picks with Coronato, Honzek, Zary and Andersson and Anaheim would consider.
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