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Forum: Armchair-GM25 déc. 2022 à 9 h 40
Sujet: habs 22-23 TDL hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheeDjeeEem</b></div><div>with 50% retention on

Hoffman, Mike
Drouin, Jonathan
Dadonov, Evgeni

You'd be <strong>lucky</strong> to receive a 4/5th

Edmundson at 50% is worth a 2nd... if you're lucky because he's just not very talented anymore

Monahan at 50% is worth a 1st OR a top prospect if youre lucky because he's always injured and a rental

So that's 5 retentions to receive 3 5th's, or a 2nd, or a 1st... seems like Drouin/Dad should just play out their bad deal.

Hoffman is a lockeroom/media cancer, even at 2x2.25.

Monahan to COL/BOS/TOR makes most sense.

Edmundson to EDM or FLA makes sense for THEM, do YOU want to help them at the cost of a '23 2nd?</div></div>

thanks for the feed back

so basicaly its just Edmunson that we don't get along for the value

Drouin,Dadonov, Hoffman for 4/5 round if retain is around mid to late (but we could only retain on one if we retain on Monahan and Edmunson)
so we can accept 6/7 round with no retention or
i agree with you and have no problem to just wait till the end for Drouin and Dadonov (this summer) that's why i said 3 on 5
and Monhan half retain for a 1st round that's what we want i add a grade B prospect in the trade but the possibility to add on MTL side too to compensate but Monahan for a 1st straigt up i am ok with it

but i think with 2 years of retain salary on Edmunson if we add a mid round (or value of) we can get a 1st OR a good prospect

so i am not too far off overall
Forum: Armchair-GM25 déc. 2022 à 9 h 52
Sujet: habs 22-23 TDL hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>chuck28</b></div><div>thanks for the feed back

so basicaly its just Edmunson that we don't get along for the value

Drouin,Dadonov, Hoffman for 4/5 round if retain is around mid to late (but we could only retain on one if we retain on Monahan and Edmunson)
so we can accept 6/7 round with no retention or
i agree with you and have no problem to just wait till the end for Drouin and Dadonov (this summer) that's why i said 3 on 5
and Monhan half retain for a 1st round that's what we want i add a grade B prospect in the trade but the possibility to add on MTL side too to compensate but Monahan for a 1st straigt up i am ok with it

but i think with 2 years of retain salary on Edmunson if we add a mid round (or value of) we can get a 1st OR a good prospect

so i am not too far off overall</div></div>

Edmundson with retention + '23 4th should = late 1st from EDM... would they do it? maybe...

It's only worth a '23 3rd to add a B prospect in Monahan deal if it's a D or G, so find them on those teams and propose trade to see feedback

Edmundson to LA at 50% might be interesting for them.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 déc. 2022 à 11 h 15
Sujet: habs 22-23 TDL hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>turtlemountain</b></div><div>Disagreeing with the previous commenter, I don’t think you’ll get a 1st from anyone for Monahan 50% retained. There will be a market there, just not a premium one.

Someone will overpay for Edmundson 50% with retention, but I doubt you get a 1st there either. He also takes up a retention spot next year.

Teams are only allowed to retain on 3 players. So assuming you use 2 of your 3 retention spots on Monahan and Edmundson, you have 1 slot left.

Drouin and Dadonov don’t have any value whatsoever with their current cap hits. You’d be lucky to get a late round pick for either at 50% retention.

Hoffman also sucks with that contract, but maybe you can get a return for him at 50% retained for a team that needs a pure shooter. Even then, you’d be saddled with his retention for next season also.

I think Habs fans are likely going to be disappointed in the returns for these five guys on the trade block. Maybe there’s an overpay on one (Edmundson), but the rest aren’t particularly valuable.</div></div>

how is this disagreeing with me exactly?
Forum: Armchair-GM26 déc. 2022 à 20 h 13
Forum: Armchair-GM28 déc. 2022 à 10 h 43
Sujet: toes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>Like I said, I don't know the entire situation, and I never mentioned ridiculing. What I mentioned is that a lot of the Blackhawks roster was apparently aware of the situation, and were complicit in keeping things quiet. I find it hard to believe that that much of the roster would know what happened, but not the team's captain. I find it hard to believe Toews didn't know in 2010. And if he did, he could have gone ot the media or the NHL and told them what was happening to Beach. He didn't.</div></div>

No doubt the entire roster that spring knew.

the ridiculing was mentioned in the report that ensued... I believe.

the entire situation is such a shameful injustice, do you think there is any follow up to be done for punishment?
Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2022 à 10 h 38
Sujet: CBJ Minimum Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey_Mind</b></div><div>Kent Johnson may be closer to taking that 1C role than you think. And as you mentioned, they could get that guy in this summer's draft as well. Even at #5, I think that player should be just as impactful if not more than KJ in year their draft +2 year.

I still believe in Elvis. His ability hasn't gone anywhere, he's just trying too hard. He'll work his way out of this funk and get back to being a solid #1. Hopefully it takes him all year to do that though, because we sure could use one of those top two guys in the draft.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ajp_18</b></div><div>Voracek is likely done from concussion issues.

Texier could be back, but also could not be, too up in the air to tell right now.

Johnson will be the 1c, Sillinger 2c, Jenner 3c and Karuly 4c, that’s without any trades of UFA signings.

Forward lines-
Gaudreau - Johnson - Laine
Marchenko - Sillinger - Chinakov
Texier - Jenner - Danforth
Robinson - Karuly - Oliver
(Roslovic and ??)

Defence -
Werenski - Blankenburg
Boqvist - Peeke
Bean - Gudbranson
(Berni or Bjork)

Goalies
Tarasov
Merzlinkins

That’s my guess anyways, I don’t see Bemstrom or Foudy coming back, maybe with the Voracek injury we see Nyquist resigned to a 1 year 3.0-3.5 deal to keep the vet in the line up. Center comes down to can Johnson be the 1c we all want him to it does the draft lottery fall our way and we can get one of the 4 in Bedard, Fantilli, Dvorsky (totally didn’t spell that right) or Carlsson to be the 1c of the future. Currently sitting 2nd to last it looks pretty likely that we can get there.</div></div>

Would you trade Roslo this year with 50% ret to net a [late] 1st or 2nd + C prospect? Seems like he doesn't fit so well next year and the extra 2M could be put to better use anyway
Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2022 à 18 h 5
Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2022 à 18 h 47
Sujet: Future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>2024 1st round pick (OTT)
Järventie, Roby : worth another 1st
Brännström, Erik : has been developing pretty nicely, only the points are missing now. If he starts producing a little bit, he's going to be in high demand. I'd say another 2nd
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
Sokolov, Egor : PPG again, his future is still unclear but the guy is still a good prospect

2 x 1sts + 3 x 2nds

Formenton at "<em>normal value</em>" is worth a mid 1st +, I wouldn't even trade him for that. I'd keep the 2nd fastest skater in the NHL who also lead the NHL in SH goals in his 22 y/o rookie season. Considering the situation might as well wait and see what happens, he's not worth anything right now</div></div>

sounds like OTT should be a playoff team then...oh wait they have almost as many points as AZU :tearsofjoy