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Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2022 à 11 h 36
Sujet: Fiala trade - Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Carson</b></div><div>No, brown like Fiala needs to get paid in a year. Minnesota will not resign Fiala or brown. Fiala has more value.

You do understand Fleury is coming back and Talbot might be staying also right

Not sure if you are trying to convince yourself, but Guerin has shown to hold firm in trade talks. They aren't taking on any lesser G who potentially would be a backup</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Carson</b></div><div>No, brown like Fiala needs to get paid in a year. Minnesota will not resign Fiala or brown. Fiala has more value.

You do understand Fleury is coming back and Talbot might be staying also right

Not sure if you are trying to convince yourself, but Guerin has shown to hold firm in trade talks. They aren't taking on any lesser G who potentially would be a backup</div></div>

What GM says and what they think are completely different things.

Let's be realistic. Minny will not win with 14M dead cap. But credit to them, they are not going full rebuild. They want to accumulate some asset while staying competitive and develop their young players in a winning environment.

My proposed trade allows you to do that. Take the TOP 5 pick and gus and run with It. You will be happy in 5 years.
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2022 à 11 h 31
Sujet: Fiala Trade - Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>Why, exactly, do you think it's far-fetched that Fleury would come back? It's not like he was willing to waive his NMC to go anywhere at the TDL... It's definitely not a sure-thing but I think there's a pretty good chance Geurin will try to find a way to re-sign him.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Carson</b></div><div>Minnesota has Alex g and one of merrill or Dmitry Kulikov for 3rd pairing next year

Dumba and brodin is our 2nd pairing

You are wrong about Fleury not coming back. Guerin himself said everything goes good, plan is to resign him to 1 year deal. They were teammates and he waived to come to Minnesota 2x, Including before he was dealt to Chicago. So in terms of your statement, you are clearly wrong

No, Tyson Jost wasn't brought in as a test really. He was brought in as nico sturm replacement.</div></div>

Easy, if they decide to sign Fleury AND keep Jost, than they have no room for Fiala.... or the player they acquire with him. Mark my words, there will be money coming in from the Fiala trade. If not it lowers the number of teams that can trade for him and lowers his value. I think brown is as good of a player as they can get for Him and the team will remain competitive while still building the future.... I mean surely Guerin isn't thinking about winning the stanley cup with 14M Dead cap...
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2022 à 11 h 21
Sujet: Fiala trade - Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Carson</b></div><div>Minnesota doesn't here..why would Minnesota gives up just who they just acquired, 1st round pick, and fiala for cap dump, connor brown, and G prospect they don't need?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>The reason Minni trades Fiala is for needed cap relief.....not to take on 3.6m Brown and 2.75 Zaitsev.
A signed Fiala for Ottawa !st is closer to a deal.</div></div>

Minny is not looking to operate under the cap... they still want to maximize their cap space. They will surely want a player back from Fiala. Brown is an excellent alternative to Fiala + This trade allows them to add a player at the other two position, save a little bit of $$ AND get a top 5 pick.

Brown is one of the most underrated players in the league. Complete game. Plays 20 min / night.

Zaitsev is the bottom pairing prototype they normally look for. He'll be able to eat 20 min a night and let Addison step into an offensive role when/if Dumba leaves.

Gus is a nearly ready prospect. He allows Minny to ease Wallsted into the NHL and gives him a Swedish Pal as a Duo moving forwards.
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2022 à 11 h 6
Sujet: Fiala Trade - Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Carson</b></div><div>No, Dumba is a top 2-3d, better than Zaitsev. Minnesota also has 8 d under contract, so they simply aren't taking on the cap dump of Zaitsev.

Marc Andre Fleury is coming back next year. Very likely will keep Talbot or sign a cheaper backup

Fiala was always going to cost a 1st round pick. Tyson Jost was trades for with the intention to keep him beyond this year</div></div>

I am not arguing that Zaitsev is as good as Dumba. Zaitsev is a bottom pairing guy. At 4.5M he has one of the worst contract in the league, but at 2.5M its OK.

What I mean is that Addison is not suited to be a bottom pairing guy with a lot of D-Zone starts. Zaitsev can easily step into that role. Addison will replace Dumba in 2 years as the 3 guy.

Don't kid yourself, Fleury is not coming back. Unless they go on a unexpected run in the playoffs.

Jost was brought in for a TEST and the OPTION of bringing him back next year.

Basically for 6-7M what would you prefer:

1. Fiala

2. Fleury + Jost

3. Brown + Zaitsez + Gus + TOP 5 pick
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2022 à 10 h 58
Sujet: Fiala Trade - Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBoyDuddus</b></div><div>It’s funny because I see it the exact opposite.

Ottawa’s giving up a top 5 pick unprotected. Arguably their best goalie prospect (definitely their closest to the NHL). Brown, who’s been scoring at a 60 point pace all season and is only signed for 3.6m next year, realistically worth a 1st all by himself. And then Zaitsev is serviceable but Ottawa is stuck retaining 2m for the next 2 years.

Don’t really care for Jost but we can say him and Zaitsev are a wash and if Brown and the Minny 1st cancel out, Ottawa isn’t trading their 1st for Fiala 1 for 1 but they’re still adding Gus on top of that somehow.

That’s a pass.</div></div>

2. Retaining 2M on Zaitsez is a better outcome than a buyout.

Here is the logic for Ottawa.

1. Fiala is a better complement for Stutzle's game than Brown and he is younger. Hence, normally, an extra asset.

2. Retaining 2M on Zaitsev is a better outcome than a Buyout.

3. They don't have much Leverage with Gus because they have 3 goalies on a 1-way next year. Murray will be tough to move. Gus will be able to be had at a reasonable price this summer. Defintely not worth more than a 2nd round pick at best. (think of nedelkovic)

4. Jost is a weird player, but I love his TK vs GW ratio. Some would say it means he doesn't have the puck often.. but still would rather have him than Zaitsev.
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2022 à 10 h 44
Sujet: Fiala Trade - Who says no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChefBoyardee</b></div><div>Minny says no. Simply not enough value going the other way.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rookescr96</b></div><div>You haven't hardly gave anything up if your Ottawa.

Zaitsev is a third pairing guy with a decent cap hit which Minnesota doesn't need.
Brown is on an expiring contract to a team with no cap space, plus trading away a centerman Jost
Swap first round picks is close to a wash
And a goalie prospect with limited nhl production to a team that has Wallstedt</div></div>

1. The main value is in the first round pick that will be TOP 5 vs 16-24 range.

2. Brown is one of the most underrated players in the league. Complete game. Plays in all situation. 20 min/game. Has a RH shot (which Minny lacks) . Has a super reasonable contract. He is worth a late 1st as a rental. Also in a year, Dumba, Kulikov and Talbot are off the hook. Possibility to extand him long term to a more reasonable cap hit than Fiala's.

3. Gus allows minny to ease Wallstedt along in the AHL next year and step in the following year when Talbot is off the hook.

4. The addition of Zaitsev on the right side makes Dumba expandable. He'll be able to eat enough tough minutes to ease Addison into the lineup.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 août 2021 à 12 h 43
Sujet: Anaheim Minny trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drmantalban</b></div><div>I’d take this as a wild fan. It sets us back temporarily, but I think Brans is gonna be a reliable top 4 guy. He’s too skilled and he lights up the A. I view Greenway as dispensable for this level of return.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EccE</b></div><div>Sadly, Brännström's play has really fallen off a cliff. While he was once very promising, now he is almost 22, and I can't see him cracking our lineup. This would push us back, and the probability of Brännström being a bust is too much.</div></div>

Branny hasn't fallen off a cliff, he jsut hasn't progress as fast as the unfair expectations that were put on him following the stone trade. He will defintely be a great 2nd pairing d-men, eventually. Sens just seems to have no room for him.

Also, with those wierd buyouts, MIN probably doesn't have room to re-sign Greenway next year especially considering all their other options at LW.

Win-win trade.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai 2021 à 12 h 39
Sujet: Seek and destroy a D-man and Veteran C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tchuckycheese</b></div><div>Giroux is way too old considering we (Old Man Mel) wouldn't even sign a 26 year old mark stone.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HikinenNisti</b></div><div>It makes no sense for Ottawa to trade for Giroux</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>blues are not trading Parayko and trading for Giroux would be the epidemy of stupidity</div></div>

I have a simple question to ask: Do you prefer White or Giroux for the next 4 years? As they will make give or take the same money. For me the answer is a no brainer. Not even thinking twice. Especially, since Ottawa plan is to enter a competitive window in the next few years.

White has shown... frankly... nothing. Giroux still has unbelievable underlying numbers. Is a top 5 faceoff guy in the league. Has amazing intangibles. He is like an on-ice coach.

He is getting old. But his game is translating so well. Because he is smart. Like Patrice Bergeron (who is older and as good as ever). I expect him to maintain a great level of hockey and be a massive upgrade over white. So much so that i am willing to part ways with a 2nd and Greig.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 mai 2021 à 14 h 56
Sujet: Kinda really like this team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>Absolutely.

Q: “How much is Laine worth?”

A: “Whatever the highest bidder offers.”

And yeah, I think that’d be enough for Laine. Not sure he’ll sign for $7M for 5 years. For that much, he’d probably only give you 2-3 years to allow him to bet on himself and go to UFA.

Any alternatives to Boone that you’d ask for? He’s got strong ties to the team, and I’m hard pressed to think they’d trade him as part of this package.</div></div>

The only other option I see is Nyquist at 50% retained. But even then, not sure MB is interested in taking him. The purpose of dumping Byron and taking Jenner is to create space in a year when it is time to re-sign Suzuki.

For the habs, Jenner is Essentially a one-year rental. He can re-sign with Columbus in a year if the ties are that strong.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 mai 2021 à 12 h 9
Sujet: Off season plan step by step
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>I don't see a world where Parayko becomes available before the trade deadline next year. Blues are a contender, and he's their best dman.

As for Jones? Theoretically, if the Jackets can't extend him this summer, he could definitely be available, but if he's not extending there, he's probably going to test free agency. That's a lot to give up for 1 year of him.</div></div>

Let's say they get their ass kicked firt round, it might make sense to look at trading one of of their top 4D, otherwise they will lose Dunn in expansion for nothing. With many UFA's, they are looking at a mini rebuild of their forwards around Kyrou and Thomas, anyway. Getting a top 8 pick, an early second, 3 B+ prospect, and a servicable RD as a stop gap for losing Parayko is a decent return for now and the future.

I agree it's no sure thing. But they may consider it. I think they strongly consider if Ott wins the lottery.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 mai 2021 à 14 h 22
Sujet: Off season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Philly doesn’t accept and the rest Ottawa don’t accept. Overpay for Brady</div></div>

1. Philly defintely accepts lol... they have trying to rid of Gost for a while... he even cleared waivers lol... and they need a RD... I'm not sure Ott accepts this one..

2. Petersson is a great value contract in the NHL right now. Might be a slight overpay but I beleive it is worth it. Perfect LD to pair with Branny and finally allow him to move to RD.

3. If we want Seattle to grab Dadonov, we must trade Daccord and brown. Blues glady take them as they need a backup and Brown is from St-Louis. Dorion is manages to get a good 4th liner and a pick out of the trade, which isn't too bad!

4. Tkachuk is sneaky for valuable. Should be 1st player ever to be top 2 in shots and hits in a season and brings very valuable leadership qualities. I see a habs AGM try to pull the AHO contract. If I am Dorion and Melnyk, that scares the **** out of me. I prefer to sign him to 8x10 and structure the contract as I please rather than owe him 21Mil in a year span... and take the opportunity to put the C on him.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 avr. 2021 à 11 h 2
Sujet: Expansion Giroux and Smart use of cap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Treestoner</b></div><div>That package isn't worth Giroux alone. Not to mention the fact that Myers has a team-friendly contract for what equates to scraps compared to what you are supposedly acquiring. Also with Ottawa's status as a bad team why would they ever trade their 2022 1st. Just unrealistic.</div></div>

I am trying to figure out a package for Giroux. I figured, as a pending UFA, White + Greig is a fair offer. Perhaps I am missing a a 2nd. Zaitsev vs Ghost is a slight win for Philly. Zub and Myers is a wash. Perhaps a slight win for Ottawa but Zub will also sign a team friendly contract that should be longer term. In 2 years, myers will ask for at least 4M.

Ottawa gives up their 1st to acquire Foote and Killorn but get's a 1st back for a retained Killorn. Ottawa won,t be a contender but they won't be as bad next year. Basically they get Foote by accepting to move back a few positions in the draft. Sounds like a good deal for me. Very realistic.