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Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
16 juill. 2021 à 14 h 33
Sujet:
Kadri Out Eichel In
Buffalo declines
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
3 juill. 2021 à 17 h 56
Sujet:
Eichel for prospect and Vilardi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SabresRule</b></div><div>Not precisely what the Sabres want but we accept. We would prefer Turcotte assuming Byfeld is never happening.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mangler</b></div><div>I agree not Byfield or turcotte. But if thats what we get. Might be a good package</div></div>
Mates I have a different way of looking at this trade. If LAK are not going to send one of their 2 tops prospects in a deal for Captain Jack than no way will I take Quick off their hands and his bloated 5.8 million for the next 2 years. GM Adams can get a FA goalie for the next 2 years at 5 million per.
Bjornfot is a very good prospect but he is exactly what the Sabres have a plethora of which is solid LHD in their system so this is really not filling a need for the Sabres;
Vilardi is an excellent piece;
Kaliyev is also a solid piece in a deal;
So now you ask well what would you do you... funny you should ask.
If you want GM Adams to take on Quick then the deal would have to look like this:
Quick
2021 1st Round Pick
2022 1st Round Pick
Vilardi
Kaliyev
Iafallo
I know I know I am nuts... well if LAK are reasonable then here is where this thing should land:
Turcotte/Byfield
2021 First Round Pick
Vilardi
Tyler Madden
Quick
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
3 juill. 2021 à 17 h 35
Sujet:
Risto for Johnsson and picks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Devils decline
Johnsson for Risto one for one is more fair</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tgasp67</b></div><div>Johnsson wasn’t that bad last season</div></div>
Since you are coming from this a a Sabres Fan (I am so sorry you are inflicted with the same condition as me) I will offer you the following review:
1. I do agree that the additional three picks from NJ is an over pay;
2. I disagree that a one for one with Johnsson is not enough for the Sabres as I value a DMan that has offensive tools (yes he is also offensive in the D Zone) and can QB the #1 power play or put him in front on the PP.... that is a unique skill set that if you pair him with a solid D man (McCabe) Risto performs at his best... IMO this is worth more than a 3rd Line winger;
How about this Devils Fan:
Risto
For
Nico Daws
NYI 2nd Round Pick 2021
NJ 2nd Round Pick 2022
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
3 juill. 2021 à 17 h 41
Sujet:
Reinhart to Columbus
Homer thanks for putting this together for us to comment on.... What I would like to know from you what is your opinion on Domi?
I think that GM Adams could do much better than this return in dealing Samson.
I am not a Domi fan as his huge season was an outlier & I think he is a 3rd Line winger;
Elvis is a nice get but I also believe that GM Adams can fill his goalie position for the next 2 years with a FA while he waits for UPL;
If I am GM Adams dealing Samson to CBus I look for the following in return:
Texier & CBus 1st Rd Pick in 2021
or
Texier, Angle & Toronto 1st Rd Pick 2021
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
3 juill. 2021 à 13 h 29
Sujet:
Eichel for prospect and Vilardi
Not precisely what the Sabres want but we accept. We would prefer Turcotte assuming Byfeld is never happening.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
2 juill. 2021 à 15 h 22
Sujet:
Realistic Eichel Trade
First off thank you for taking the time to put together the trade for us to comment on......
Second if I was GM Adams the only way I am moving Eichel in a deal to the NYR one of the following has to be coming back to me Kappo or Lafreniere. If this is not acceptable than GM Adams says thanks for your time and moves on to the next contestant..... Adams does NOT have to deal Eichel... this is not Taylor Hall Part 2;
Third your inclusion of the 2021 First Rounder is another non negotiable aspect for GM Adams;
Fourth in addition to the pick and one of those top players it will take another top prospect or young NHL player with upside (not a bottom six);
GM Adams would like to move Eichel on but he does not have a gun to his head....
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
30 juin 2021 à 21 h 22
Sujet:
Eichel to LAK
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mangler</b></div><div>Done. Iam ready to get this over with. I will take it</div></div>
LOL, quick guys, BUF fans are sick of the drama. Start posting the offers for Eichel for a 7th rounder and a 4th line winger.......
Sorry <a href="/users/Mangler" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Mangler</a> ..........you left yourself open for that one........
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
30 juin 2021 à 17 h 3
Sujet:
Eichel to NYR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mangler</b></div><div>Like it, sabres accept</div></div>
Very good attempt at this Eichel movement thing.....
From GM Adams perspective he gets that TOP Prospect with Lafreniere which is critical.... then Stome could be a flip at trade deadline or look to extend with him being a UFA after 21/22.... Lundkvist is a RD man that fits in what the Sabres are lacking in their system then the cherry on top is the 1st Round Pick.
From NYR perspective they get Eichel having to give up a TOP prospect and they get salary cap relief by moving Strome ($4,500,000)..... maybe the Sabres have to throw a late round draft pick in 2021 draft.
Awesome job!!!!!
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
28 juin 2021 à 20 h 8
Sujet:
NY creeping in again
I think Kakko and Lefrenière have to be included as the meat of the trade with Georgiev
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
28 juin 2021 à 15 h 36
Sujet:
Messing Around
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mangler</b></div><div>Can they even fit eichel in with the cap. That's alot of high priced top end guys. Without a cap dump coming back. Take out koskinen and change it to nurse would be my counter</div></div>
I really like when people in this community mess around with trades.... problem is too many people get aggressive to destroy the suggested trade.....
I agree with Mangler that you would need to remove Koskinen from the trade and if the hope is to move on from salary then Nurse is a good replacement. TBH if Edmonton can make it work with their cap I do not need Nurse in the deal. I would trade Eichel for the 3 Prospects and 2 Draft Picks..... I actually think that Adams would have to send back a later round pick and a player (Dea or CJ Smith not relevant per se).
The issue for Edmonton is if they are 100% betting on Mike Smith they need to move Koskinen and Adams knows that.... I just think the Sabres/Oilers are not a great fit for an Eichel deal.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
27 juin 2021 à 21 h 15
Sujet:
Risto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mangler</b></div><div>All year player. Not a trade deadline trade, then convince him to resign there</div></div>
I do not believe that he can provide the same value that Sharangovich can provide for NJ over a single season. Then you factor in the age and current contract status and the deal falls through. Analytically, he has been bad the last couple of seasons so that has to drop his value to a team that heavily values analytics. I understand that there are reports that NJ has shown interest but that doesn't mean that they would be willing to pay this much for someone who hasn't shown much. I'd be willing to see what he can do on the second pair away from whatever is destroying Buffalo but nobody would do it at this price with no guarantee he stays past this season.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
26 juin 2021 à 17 h 46
Sujet:
Samson
At this point as a CBJ fan, I don't think it's a good idea to trade for Reinhart, especially if this is what it will cost. We either go for Eichel or we rebuild, Reinhart isn't a game-changing talent that will allow for a proper retool. Then there's the matter of his UFA status next summer, if CBJ trades for him and he forces arbitration then we will likely lose him the season after. I would much rather see Jarmo try and acquire a good center prospect from a team that's looking to take the next step, a player like Perfetti, Lundell, Vilardi/Turcotte, and so on; maybe even a player like Cirelli if Tampa is unable to keep him due to their cap crunch. Buffalo is looking to sell high on Reinhart right now, they're going to try and win that trade and it will be expensive.
I would also trade Marchenko looong before Chinakhov. The former won't be coming to North America until next summer at the earliest, which is better for a rebuilding team like Buffalo looking to get a high pick next season. Jarmo also took a big risk drafting Chinakhov at 21OA and it already looks to be paying off (he's KHL rookie of the year and won the Gagarin Cup). He's not going to move Chinakhov so soon after drafting him since we're rebuilding, especially since Chinakhov has already signed his ELC.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
26 juin 2021 à 17 h 34
Sujet:
Risto
Lifetime Sabres Fan and 30+ year season ticket holder here and I have to say you are giving the Sabres too much for Risto.
How about this one:
Risto & Brett Murray
For
Sharangovich, NJ 2nd Round Pick 2022
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
26 juin 2021 à 17 h 23
Sujet:
Samson
Adams would say yes to this deal for Sampson.... it would provide him his goalie that he is looking for with 2 prospects (1 NHL ready and 1 a year away) plus an additional 1st in 2021....
Sadleafsfan is just hating on anything Sabres (taking about kicking the dog when he is down and out)..... Sampson has real value he has improved his level of play every year even though the franchise has been cratering around him.... he does not whine or complain like Jack.... showed he could carry the load as a center this year..... he has talent skill and will get dirty when necessary..... I as a lifelong fan and 30 year season ticket holder would rather keep Sampson over Jack.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
26 juin 2021 à 17 h 15
Sujet:
Jack
If Adams is going to trade Jack to the Ducks then Zegras & the Ducks 1st Round pick 2021 Draft will have to be the nucleus of the package coming back.....
The Ducks could counter with:
1st round Pick 2021 Draft (#3)
Lukas Donstal
Josh Manson
Sam Steel
I do not think a trade between the Ducks and Sabres works very well for where the Ducks are in their rebuild or retool.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
25 juin 2021 à 9 h 54
Sujet:
Who say no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mangler</b></div><div>Swap flower with either Krebs or glass. And iam good</div></div>
I'd say keep Flower and add Krebs or Glass. (along with Tuch and the firsts)
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
24 juin 2021 à 21 h 22
Sujet:
Minnesota Wild trades for Jack Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Clement</b></div><div>The Goal is to add to wild C Core. Not take Away
Joel Eriksson Ek will not be traded in Eichel trade as he's a complete 2 way c
So on top of Joel Eriksson Ek, you add Marco Rossi? I mean what are you doing here? You are giving too much value,,& ruining wild</div></div>
So what you're saying is you want Eichel, but you're not willing to give up anything of value that BUF might want for him.
Victor Rask is a cap dump.
Dumba needs to be moved to avoid being picked up in the expansion draft.
Your First is bottom half in a draft that's not deep.
So where's the upside for BUF?
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
24 juin 2021 à 12 h 43
Sujet:
Eichel to the Ducks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>QuackAttack</b></div><div>Only one major prize for someone who isn’t even gonna play next season because of a neck surgery. This is the most id give. I’d maybe swap Tracey for Perrault because I’m feeling nice. But nothing more</div></div>
Whether Eichel wants out or not isn't going to deter BUF from wanting top return. They're gonna want one of Comtois or Zegras as part of the package. Do I think ANA should give one of them up? NO.
At this point, if they aren't getting the offers they want, BUF might as well just let Eichel have the surgery he wants, put him on LTIR for a year, and trade him when he's healthy. If the surgery doesn't work, he'll retire or insurance will cover the bulk of the contract and he can sit on LTIR. Selling low doesn't help the franchise.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
24 juin 2021 à 10 h 48
Sujet:
Eichel to Bruins
Mangler Kase’s Contract isn’t great and no sure fire assets in this deal besides maybe Carlo
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
18 juin 2021 à 16 h 46
Sujet:
reinhart to sens cheaper trade than eichel for sens
You need more value in this. White is expendable on this team, but he can be a piece for cap reasons.
2022 2nd should change to a first. With Reinhart, this team should be out of the bottom7 or 8 picks next year.
Then add a high end young talent. Abramov might interest BUF.
Reinhart might not want it play in BUF, but his rights are still owned and he can't force a trade unless he sits out. Not sure he's eligible for an offer sheet, but if he is and with his salary hopes, the compensation would be a better package than this.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
17 juin 2021 à 6 h 31
Sujet:
Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mangler</b></div><div>Debrusk has falling out of interest for teams. Not sure Boston has the pieces</div></div>
I don’t think we do. But I wanted to attempt it anyways
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
16 juin 2021 à 3 h 29
Sujet:
Eich to jackets
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalojonny</b></div><div>I honestly belive Eichel should get more than that if dealt. As in Chinakhov, Marchenko, Domi and the 2 2021 first round picks. But it's the Sabres and they're probably going to mess it up.</div></div>
I'd do Chinakhov, Roslovic, Korpisalo and the two firsts for Eichel and Thompson
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
15 juin 2021 à 20 h 50
Sujet:
Eichel and Scheifele Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalojonny</b></div><div>They're close, Scheifele is very underrated. Winnepeg pretty much folded when he got suspended.</div></div>
If you look just at the offensive categories, you're completely right, but Eichel still needs to learn all the intangibles. Take away the completely stupid play that got him suspended, Scheifele is an excellent leader, very good in his own zone, can play physical in all 3 zones and give 110% every game. That's the type of player all these young "superstars" need to try to be like. Crosby became it. Ovie finally did, and they won the cup. Matthews is getting there. Kopitar, Toews, Barkov, Marchand, MacKinnon, Stone. All these guys do it night in and night out for 60 minutes and 200 feet. That's the kind of stuff guys like Matthews and Eichel need to aspire to.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
15 juin 2021 à 19 h 46
Sujet:
Eichel and Scheifele Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dutchies</b></div><div>There's no way WPG moves Schiefele. He'd be a great fit in BUF (or anywhere else), but he's a top 10 player in the league at one of the biggest steals when it comes to salary. And he's better than Eichel. some might not agree, but I'm right.</div></div>
They're close, Scheifele is very underrated. Winnepeg pretty much folded when he got suspended.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
15 juin 2021 à 8 h 5
Sujet:
Who says no
I'm not crazy about the trade for Buffalo. I'd rather have the #5OA, the 2022 1st, Marchenko and Domi.
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