MNM_Dynasty

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchJr</b></div><div>Pesce is part of a special group of vastly overrated players on this site . Nowhere near worth $6M; no interest given his age, skill set and likely contract - much better options for the Leafs imo</div></div>

I haven't seen better options to anchor a first line with reilly. Who would you suggest?

Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars à 21 h 53

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchJr</b></div><div>Pesce is part of a special group of vastly overrated players on this site . Nowhere near worth $6M; no interest given his age, skill set and likely contract - much better options for the Leafs imo</div></div>

It'd be nice if we could get pesce cheaper and keep jarnkrok or kampf but free agency for big top 4 right handed d might be expensive. Even if we overpay our team will be much better

Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars à 21 h 51

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_Enthusiast</b></div><div>Pesce is just a younger and more overhyped version of TJ Brodie....</div></div>

Disagree big time. 6'3 and very physical and generally considered a very good stay at home d. Also, he's a righty

Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars à 21 h 47

Well the team kampf was being traded to was random. The point of the thread was to see if Pesce could fit in to the lineup while still building a decent roster.

Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars à 21 h 26

I mean he's got 13 points as a second line man this year. Obviously I'm slotting him in next to reilly on our top line but 7+ sounds steep. I suppose I could see 6.5 mill

Forum: Armchair-GM16 déc. 2023 à 19 h 7

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>I’m gonna start sending every person who trades for lindholm to the ignore list I don’t need this stress it’s never gonna happen</div></div>

Lol. You might be working too hard.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 déc. 2023 à 19 h 6

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>Omg there’s a better chance that lindholm ends up with the ducks then the leafs it just ain’t gonna happen give it up please</div></div>

I'm sorry, the ducks are trading for lindholm at the deadline? Why so much hate for the leafs?

Forum: Armchair-GM16 déc. 2023 à 19 h 5

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>I qould expect Calgary to pass on that</div></div>

I would argue that the value is about right. The assets are the type Calgary is looking for if they were to tank and look to retool. I'd be surprised if they find better elsewhere at the deadline but you never know.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 déc. 2023 à 19 h 3

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>soft_dump_in_the_corner</b></div><div>It doesn't make sense to trade out roster players, especially young ones that are under team control beyond this year, to bring in Tanev & Lindholm. Instead of adding to what you already have you've now just made marginal upgrades to those positions at the cost of a significant amount of draft capital, and at least Lindholm would be walking at the end of the year.

The Leafs are also going to need every bit of defensive help they can get this postseason, and that means keeping Liljgren too.</div></div>

I would argue that these would be major upgrades to our d and offense. Both tanev amd linholm are bug impact players. Tanev is a better version of mccabe on the right side. If we're discussing getting every bit of help for the playoffs, I would also prefer tanev to liljegren for a postseason run. I also think these are middling assetts we'd be giving up and parting with them for impact players is exactly what we need to do.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. 2023 à 22 h 32

Sujet: Best defense upgrade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GM_SZK</b></div><div>I like the idea of those two in Toronto’s top 4 but neither package is enough. I don’t get how Liljegren is valued so high…basically the same or even higher here than Larson given the retention.?</div></div>

Well the value comes from the fact that liljegren is an rfa who fits Seattle's timeline and is probably a top 4 defenseman who can be had next year at an ok cap hit. Whereas Larsson has so far underperformed this year on an underperforming Seattle team and therefor he is somewhat undervalued.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. 2023 à 22 h 28

Sujet: Best defense upgrade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GM_SZK</b></div><div>I like the idea of those two in Toronto’s top 4 but neither package is enough. I don’t get how Liljegren is valued so high…basically the same or even higher here than Larson given the retention.?</div></div>

I dunno. Hard to say his cost. Based off of several tanev trade discussions on this site, the medium consensus from Calgary fans is that this is roughly what it would take.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 nov. 2023 à 23 h 39

Sujet: 2 dmen

If you swapped for the 1st and instead give up 2 3rds would Calgary then go for it?

Forum: Armchair-GM17 nov. 2023 à 23 h 31

Sujet: 2 dmen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lunatik</b></div><div>I don't think the Leafs would pay that much</div></div>

I think leafs would have to pay that much. The good news is that we'd now have 9 d including timmins and Benoit and enough capspace going forward to navigate changes easily. I don't see how you make this deal without losing either minten or liljegren and liljegren makes more sense considering his cap hit. Robertson makes little sense since he's just finally clicking for the first time, he has little value on a trade market and a low cap hit.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 sept. 2023 à 14 h 7

Sujet: Prefered lines

I agree generally with TMLBRIAN regarding defense, however I think the forward lines are off.

The problem with these forward lines is you effectively have terrible defensive players on your 2nd and 3rd lines. Tavares bertuzzi amd nylander will get torched defensively. You can't have domi centre Robertson on a line from a defensive point of you either. Plus domi is unlikely starting at centre and Robertson is likely starting with the marlies but who knows.

I can see
bertuzzi matthews nylander
Knies tavares marner
Domi kampf jarnkrok
Lafferty holmberg reaves

...assuming they sadly waive timmins and go with 12 forwards

Forum: Armchair-GM20 août 2023 à 8 h 41

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Pesce is more valuable than Skjei. Skjei makes more sense to move because he's already lost his spot in the top 4 to Orlov, Carolina's RD without Pesce is far weaker than the LD without Skjei.

Forward *depth* is not something the Canes need. They already have one of the deepest winger cores in the league. They need KK to take another step. They don't need to be weakening the D core, especially on the right in exchange for a winger that... arguably doesn't get on the top line?</div></div>

Fair enough.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 août 2023 à 15 h 29

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Carolina down this pretty quickly. You won't get Nylander for Skjei, but who says Nylander is a target? Carolina hate paying big prices for guys on expring deals anyway. You can move Skjei elsewhere considering you don't need to re-sign him now that Orlov is a Hurricane. Pesce's much more required because of the issues at RD without him. 39 year old Brent Burns, Tony DeAngelo, Jalen Chatfield and Dylan Coghlan ain't filling me with confidence</div></div>

Wait who are you valuing higher? I would have thought that pesce is more valuable than skjei. Is this wrong?

I'm not saying Carolina is targeting Nylander but I imagine they're looking at ways to get better particularly in terms of forward depth. Do you think you can get a better player than nylander by keeping pesce and trading skjei?

Forum: Armchair-GM19 août 2023 à 12 h 22

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Moving Skjei makes more sense to keep the LH-RH balance. Slavin - Burns Orlov - DeAngelo Skjei - Pesce works now because that perfect 6 is a LH-RH combination. Having Orlov play on the right would be bad because it prohibits him moving the puck as well as he can do, and the Canes system that relies so heavily on point shots would need Orlov to come more central for a better angle. It's why it's built the way it is</div></div>

I totally agree with this assessment. But then you probably won't get a nylander straight up for skjei. And also, maybe skjei resigns for cheaper than pesce. i find it hard to believe that if Treliving were to make this offer that carolina wouldnt strongly consider it.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 août 2023 à 11 h 58

I don't see why carolina would ever trade Necas. And besides, the Leafs need to build their defense more than anything, no?

Forum: Armchair-GM19 août 2023 à 11 h 55

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>It would have to be Nylander + for Necas. Necas had 15 fewer points, but is 3 years younger and team controlled. For a rental Nylander, the Leafs would need to add for Necas, not the other way around.

This, as a base doesn't make sense. Carolina needs a RHD back for Pesce (Please note I said RHD, this means Brodie can pound sand) whether that's Lilly or someone from another team like Joki, Nylander doesn't make sense. Carolina would want to move Pesce to avoid losing him for nothing. Otherwise, trading him for another player they're going to lose for nothing makes no sense. Just go into the season with the Frakenblueline</div></div>

Presumably orlov or skjei comes over to the right. Carolina has 5 legit top 4 dmen, so it just seems like they're primed to make a move. Maybe they move skjei instead. But if they did move pesce it seems like their d core will not only still be intact but elite. And then add nylander...

Forum: Armchair-GM16 août 2023 à 13 h 20

Sujet: BLOCKBUSTER Revised

I don't hate it.

A couple thoughts:
I think you can get toews cheaper and use the extra cap space to sign another centre. It appears they're planning on putting domi on the wing and therfore signing another centre makes more sense. Robertsons probably going to start on the marlies so that would free up an extra roster spot.

Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2023 à 21 h 5

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>You're right abut you been in fantasy land. State just once, when a Cup contender team allows a star player to negotiate a new contract with another team one year away from when his contract expires. Just doesn't happen.</div></div>

Lol. OK bud

Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2023 à 21 h 4

I don't know. If I'm new management in calgary looking at another potential year of mediocrity and a lot of expiring contracts, I would sell half my defense for budding prospects, take advantage of their first round pick and use their massive cap space to go nuts next summer.

Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2023 à 21 h 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BURGHgirl</b></div><div>Lindholm has not said he will not resign. He hasn't made contract demands either</div></div>

I think I saw in the athletic today that he was looking for 8.7mill and that management was biding their tume

Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2023 à 20 h 56

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>There is absolutely no way possible that you guarantee the extensions for these players. Besides can't think of a reason why the Leafs would extend Lindholm for seven years which would start when he nearly 30 years of age.</div></div>

You see no way possible?!? That's a bit shortsighted. Anyways this is a fantasy trade contingent on them signing so if you're s@%#ting on that part of the proposal then you need to lighten up.

Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2023 à 20 h 44