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Forum: NHL Signings5 févr. à 20 h 50

Sujet: New York Islanders signed Bo Horvat (8 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawkisles</b></div><div>You pay premiums for faceoff centers that can play all 200 ft and shoot. It’s not a “steal” of a contract, but it’s worth it.</div></div>

Horvat is pretty much just as bad defensively as Miller

Forum: NHL Signings5 févr. à 18 h 19

Sujet: New York Islanders signed Bo Horvat (8 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>I can't imagine him signing for less. While I think he's riding a crazy shooting percentage he's on pace for over 50 g and over ppg. He wasn't going to sign as a second line c</div></div>

He wasn't going to sign for it because some team is always stupid enough to pay them for it. This time it's the NYI

Forum: NHL Signings5 févr. à 17 h 37

Sujet: New York Islanders signed Bo Horvat (8 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>if top 5 faceoff skill, 1,1ppg do not make you 1st liner I don't know tomato about that sport</div></div>

Having 7 straight 50~point seasons and then 1 1.1 PPG season where at one point you were 1.4 PPG (trending down) doesn't make you a 1st line player. He'll fall back to 50 points and become massively overpaid. He's a 2nd line center.

Forum: NHL Signings5 févr. à 15 h 32

Sujet: New York Islanders signed Bo Horvat (8 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>So, basically, Lou is going to try and turn Barzal into something that he's not.

Good to know.

I also think paying Horvat the same as Stamkos, Draisaitl and Zibanejad is a little suspect.</div></div>

oh 100% it's an awful contract. People sh*t on the Miller deal but I'd much rather have him at 8x7 over Bo's deal

Forum: NHL Signings5 févr. à 15 h 25

Sujet: New York Islanders signed Bo Horvat (8 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)

2nd line center getting 8 years x 8.5 Holy **** that's bad

Forum: NHL Signings5 févr. à 15 h 20

Sujet: New York Islanders signed Bo Horvat (8 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>A good signing is not enough to justify a bad trade.

Also, the funny thing for the Isles is that Pageau and Cizikas are now their #4 and #5 centres respectively.

After Barzal, Horvat and Nelson.

Somebody will have to be moved out.</div></div>

Barzal is gonna play on the wing I think

Forum: NHL Signings5 févr. à 15 h 19

Sujet: New York Islanders signed Bo Horvat (8 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)

Before he ever played a game for them? This has a massive risk potential. This year is an anomaly compared to prior years in terms of production so if he regresses to his usual output then this is a terrible contract, especially since it runs until he's 36.

Forum: NHL Signings5 févr. à 15 h 18

Sujet: New York Islanders signed Bo Horvat (8 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)

This was kinda a lose-lose for the Isles. I love Bo but he's definitely not worth anything close to 8

Forum: Armchair-GM5 févr. à 5 h 50

Sujet: JR Trying

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>For sure Zary could keep his stock ahead of those two in the short-term, just not sure I'd put money on it quite yet</div></div>

Fair enough

Forum: Armchair-GM5 févr. à 0 h 59

Sujet: Ploffs

Well, STL and VAN certainly pass

Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. à 7 h 56

Sujet: Time for surgery

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Demko is still a far more valuable asset than Nedjelkovic based on sample size</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Demko is still a far more valuable asset than Nedjelkovic based on sample size</div></div>

1st Demko is better than Ned, no argument, but we also have Husso so why pay for Demko when we do not need him?

The 1st round picks make this deal a no go, from the beginning. Then adding Cossa, Kasper and picks, jumps start Canucks rebuild and hurts Wings rebuild. This is not even close.

Would love Horvat but way to rich for Wings at this point of rebuild. Also no need for Demko, so this trade makes zero sense for Wings.

Forum: NHL Signings27 janv. à 0 h 3

Sujet: Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

Think it good for the Canucks, as they keep a productive player. If Kuzmenko continues to play well he will still have good trade value, even at TDL in 2025, if a trade is needed by the Canucks.

The advantage of the Canucks trading this year, is they would get a future young asset and 5.5m to spend for the next two years. I think the Canucks made the right decision.

Forum: NHL Signings26 janv. à 18 h 46

Sujet: Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>Pretty much all trade protection clauses are negotiated to be retroactive, so the 19 teams apply today.</div></div>

there are no retroactive components to any NHL deal- youre talking out your ass. He can be traded to anyone under his current deal - the only one enforceable. Now they could have an agreement/handshake deal- but thats not legally binding.

This is a good deal for the Canucks- buying 2 of his best years agewise, for a guy who should get 30-40 goals /year. Doesnt make signing Horvat any easier- but if theyre going to move out anyone its more likely- Boeser and/or Garland.

Forum: NHL Signings26 janv. à 15 h 41

Sujet: Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>Would've made more sense to trade him for at very least a first round pick. Canucks aren't going anywhere this year and are likely going to be treading water for the next two seasons.

Apparently him and Pettersson get along well so I've been under the impression that keeping him is apart of keeping Pettersson next season.</div></div>

Who is offering a first round pick on a UFA that's played 47 career NHL games? I'm certain that Alvin would have accepted such an offer if it existed.

Forum: NHL Signings26 janv. à 14 h 52

Sujet: Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

Great deal for a not so great team

Forum: NHL Signings26 janv. à 14 h 51

Sujet: Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mk458</b></div><div>Not saying I disagree with you, but he would've went for a lot more than a 2nd round pick at the deadline. Because of the flat cap the last couple years teams have less cap space at the deadline than ever before. A guy like Kuzmenko who already has 20 goals, is close to a point per game, and makes less than 1 million would have been pure gold to a contending team this season. I would think a first round pick would have been the minimum they got back for him</div></div>

You're wrong, he would have been a rental, he wasn't set to become a restricted free agent, he was set to become an unrestricted free agent. That matters, now they'd get more at the deadline, it was actually good asset management for a change.

Forum: NHL Signings26 janv. à 14 h 48

Sujet: Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Good contract, confusing time... Why aren't you trying to sign your captain instead of Kuzmenko? I voted yes because good contract and easily movable if needed</div></div>

Because the Captain is asking for not a penny less than 9.5 a year, that's why.

Forum: NHL Signings26 janv. à 14 h 20

Sujet: Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

maybe they retain salary and trade for a larger haul

Forum: NHL Signings26 janv. à 14 h 15

Sujet: Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DarcyTucker</b></div><div>Why trade your UFAs futures when you can re-sign them and stay mediocre forever?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ronan00</b></div><div>Nice value contract from what he showed so far, just the wrong move for the team

Should 100% have traded him</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>eddyed24</b></div><div>5.5 is a good value for Kuzmenko, however it doesn't make sense for Vancouver to keep him, when they could have trade him for something.</div></div>

Who said they still can't? Maybe having a great deal like this for the next two years makes him even more valuable? Not like that will actually happen because its Vancouver, but still...

Forum: NHL Signings26 janv. à 14 h 42

Sujet: Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZootHornRollo</b></div><div>What a bunch of clueless armchair GM's in this thread. I'm glad no one runs an NHL team that is no where near as ignorant as you dummy's. Apparently trading him for a second round pick will improve the team. next year. If you believe that, you have the intellect of a 10 year old gamer.</div></div>

Not saying I disagree with you, but he would've went for a lot more than a 2nd round pick at the deadline. Because of the flat cap the last couple years teams have less cap space at the deadline than ever before. A guy like Kuzmenko who already has 20 goals, is close to a point per game, and makes less than 1 million would have been pure gold to a contending team this season. I would think a first round pick would have been the minimum they got back for him

Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. à 4 h 49

Sujet: How Far would this team go

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yotes269</b></div><div>Well considering Arizona would be owning your 2023 1st+ if you wanted them to take OEL back, probably not very. Every team declines btw</div></div>

Lekkerimäki should be enough to dump OEL, he's short on the rest of the Chychrun package imho

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals17 janv. à 2 h 26

Sujet: Dallas TDL 1

Canucks pass. They’ll get at least a 1st if they move Kuzmenko

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals25 nov. 2022 à 14 h 59

Sujet: Barzal to Vancouver

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>I agree the Canucks wouldn’t do this, but Barzal is (by far) the 2nd best player in the trade</div></div>

I wouldn’t say by far. You could argue him over Hughes but personally I’d take Hughes (although I’m probably a little biased)

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals25 nov. 2022 à 0 h 33

Sujet: Barzal to Vancouver

Yes, because the Canucks will give up the two best players in the deal, a PPG player, and top prospect. Makes total sense

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals16 janv. à 15 h 31

Sujet: CBJ DO SOMETHING

Canucks aren’t doing that. Start with Johnson and Jiricek and you may have a chance

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