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Forum: Armchair-GM27 août 2022 à 2 h 33
Forum: Armchair-GM15 août 2022 à 22 h 2
Sujet: Vegas run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>See i value Hoffman for the same reasons so i feel you got a logical approach in your reasoning for the move.
Where you lose me kinda is Marchessault is a great 200ft player who is good defensively just bad at handling multiple people in 2v1,3v1 and even 3v2 assignments.
1 on 1 defensive assignments he's actually pretty good i found in the games vs MTL dating back to FLA days
Plus he's coming off a career high 20 PP points but to your point will likely drop off again as he's largely an even strength player.

I look at Marchessault like JG Pageau or Yanni Gourde just with better and more consistent Goal Scoring
Good 3rd line guy who can play 2nd line as long as he has great chemistry with the guy like he does Reilly Smith
Few in his position as consistent as Marchessault has been so MTL would love to have him as would many teams

Karlsson i just figured is the 4 year 5.9m contract for a player who's consistently declined every years since re-signing .
I dont think he's bad i just think some players need a change for whatever reason, Marchesault needed 2 before he became a consistent player
I think Karlsson would also fit in nicely in MTL to help mentor Dach into a Center of Value in the Faceoff Circle at the very least.

or even Martinez who's been a brick since back to back deep runs his first 2 years
Just surprised Marchesault is the guy you'd wanna move to get Hoffman
We will take it though lol</div></div>
Just trying to facilitate the thread starters proposal he made it quite clear he was interested in acquiring Quebec born players lol. And I wouldn’t trade pieces of our defense to fill our PP hole I’d rather just give Brisson a shot.
As for Karlsson he a solid two way player but because he is very low intensity and was very unlucky in terms of one ice shooting percentage last season it seems like he’s declining but I don’t think he is. His low intersity should actually help him age better.
Marchessault is a surprisingly good puck battler for his size but he’s poor at shutting down plays in transition and it leads to a lot of shots against. His struggles are certainly not because of a lack of effort though. Maybe he’s not terrible defensively but just below average. I’ve actually seen him in person he looks quite strong.
I don’t mean to start an argument btw I probably should have taken your “need” comment less literally.
Forum: Armchair-GM14 août 2022 à 22 h 25
Sujet: Vegas run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>No its not check again at how many players you have signed without them and you're still over the cap
You're right if you wanted to start the season with 1 goalie and 18 players once you sign Hague.

88m
- 7.8 Weber
-5m Lehner
-1.2m Patrick
= 74m/82m cap with 17 players signed.

That's 8m to sign Hague , Replacement Starting Goalie ,and 4 other players
I mean move Karlsson and you can get whomever you want
But given the cap restraints Allen is the best option they got at that cap hit
If you got a better option once you crunch the numbers i'd love to hear it.
But i dont assume i look at the site , confirm it with a calculator then i give my opinion
I openly expect people to call me out and i confidently say "you're on capfriendly see for yourself"</div></div>
Hague is a 2 million dollar player, Brossoit may be healthy to start the season that’s 2.3m if not we have Hutchison that leaves 3.7 which is enough to call up 3 additional players. You said we need to dump 5 million which is not true.
Forum: Armchair-GM14 août 2022 à 9 h 53
Sujet: Vegas run
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>VGK is in a place where they need 5m cap space
Even with Lehner and Patrick on LTIR they've only got 750k-1m with only 19/23 players signed
Thats with no Goalie Replacement to

If anything they're in a Pacioretty /MAF situation again where they have no leverage giving up or paying to move great talent to be cap complient.
I see it more like Karlsson and a 2nd(or Primeau) to MTL for Allen at 50% RS and Evans
Takes care of VGK needs while costing them 2.135m vs 5.9m they currently pay Karlsson giving VGK 3.765m free this year , 4.2m the next 2 then 5.9m the final year
Should be just barely enough to be roster compliant anyways but ideally they'd want to move Martinez to give themselves a real chance which is a hard sell given his consistent injuries increasing more and more the older he gets. Hard finding teams today but next year in his last year of his deal it should be easier.

MTL will be getting an overpaid center true
But he actually fits our systems needs and could end up Centering Slavkovsky and Anderson(Ylonen or Mesar eventually)
MTL can rebound his value for 3 years while rebuilding and selling off other pieces along the way
Then trade Karlsson at the TDL before he becomes a UFA</div></div>
Except we don’t need cap space anymore. Putting Weber and Lehner on LTIR is more than enough room.
Forum: Armchair-GM20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 8
Forum: Armchair-GM15 juill. 2022 à 22 h 42
Forum: Armchair-GM11 juill. 2022 à 0 h 20
Sujet: Trading Bob amp Horn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Even if Hague can't step into a top 4 role (despite being mostly partnered with AP last year and being analytically solid) Vegas still has McNabb and Theodore who can play top 4. Moving Patches gives the most cap relief but is not a smart idea</div></div>
Analytically, Hutton did just as good with Pietrangelo, and Pietrangelo had one of his worst seasons. I think trading Martinez is doable but it throws the depth out of wack. Pacioretty is poor on the powerplay and doesn’t provide much defense. He’s a good even strength scorer but is not the one driving the line. And his even strength production drys up in tight game situations. I think it’s plenty reasonable to trade Pacioretty. Going into next season with all of our top 6 wingers age 30+ won’t go well.
Forum: Armchair-GM10 juill. 2022 à 10 h 32
Sujet: Trading Bob amp Horn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>A lot of contradictory POV's here.
Brossoit makes like 2M, he is not overpaid, just expensive for Vegas, cap crunch. Attaching a high value roster player who will be on a super team friendly contract makes no sense. It also barely solves their actual issue. Realistically they will move pay a bit to move Brossoit and probably trade off Martinez too. That should provide them enough cap space to bring back Smith and sign all their important RFA's.
Edmonton isn't taking on Hornqvist, they are getting him retained and also getting a top end RD along as well. Hornqvist is still a very solid player and at 3.3M he is not overpaid.</div></div>
Moving Martinez would be a huge risk. Hague is only a #6D who might improve so we can afford to move him with 7 other D signed. The deal has fair value. Moving Pacioretty is the best way out of our cap trouble imo.
Forum: Armchair-GM9 juill. 2022 à 22 h 30
Forum: Armchair-GM1 juill. 2022 à 22 h 26
Forum: Armchair-GM30 juin 2022 à 23 h 42
Sujet: Just get him signed already
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Buying out Myers would give them a negative cap hit (so extra cap space essentially) of $616K for 22-23, and a cap hit of $633K for 23-24. If that helps VGK - cool, but NSH wouldn't include him in a Patches trade if Vegas views him as a negative asset. The Preds can trade him to another team hurting for cap space (TBL, TOR, FLA, etc), or just bury him for the year if it comes to that.

I'd still prefer your Kunin and a 3rd counter-offer, over a proposal that involves Tolvanen.</div></div>
I was wrong. That’s interesting (and sketchy). I think the value is fair enough but both assets aren’t the best fit for Vegas imo. I’m not opposed to moving Pacioretty though and not a lot of teams can fit him in.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 juin 2022 à 21 h 55
Sujet: Just get him signed already
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>I offered VGK Myers because I thought his unique buyout situation might help Vegas with the cap (buying out Myers gives them an extra $600K in cap space for next season). I'd be OK with Kunin and a 3rd for Patches. I'm less eager to give up on Tolvanen, but other Preds fans might not mind as much.

It's funny that NSH has already traded away my 4th line RW since I posted this. Alas.</div></div>
It doesn’t give us extra space but the buyout isn’t bad at all. I could see Myers being included but he is a negative value asset. My problem with Kunin + Myers as a base is Kunin’s QO + Myers 600K buyout would still put us too tight to the cap.
I would take Myers off your hands but it would require Tolvanen instead of Kunin to make the cap and value work.