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Forum: NHL SigningsWed at 8:49 am
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>I get he had a great season but wow... 5years and 9 Million for less than 1 PPG season? That's pretty awful IMO</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>Way too much for a player with only 55 games under his belt. Furthermore, it takes him to UFA status, so the Wild have no leverage to keep him after this.</div></div>

<em>Uh, he wasn't top-5, sorry.</em>
<strong>Oh, he wasn't? OK, at least he was top-10. Had to be. He's the best! </strong>
<em>Hate to break it to you, but he wasn't top-10 either.</em>
<strong>What's that you say? Not top-10? Heresy! Top-20 scorers get $9M all day, don't they? </strong>
<em>Well no, no they don't. Only 18 forwards had a $9M cap hit before today, and anyways, Kaprizov didn't finish in the top-20 in scoring. He was 22nd by total points and 29th by P/GP. The stats are <a href="http://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&amp;seasonFrom=20202021&amp;seasonTo=20202021&amp;gameType=2&amp;filter=gamesPlayed,gte,10&amp;sort=pointsPerGame&amp;page=0&amp;pageSize=50" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">here.</a></em>
<strong>Hmph. Well, he was the Calder winner, being top-30 in the NHL at such a young age means he's got TONS of potential. So there!</strong>
<em>Look, I don't hate the player, but you have to understand that he's actually 24 years old already, he's going into his draft+7 season. Can he get better? Absolutely. But temper your expectations a bit - he's not the next Connor McDavid. Actually a great comp would be another Connor - Kyle Connor. Before you start hating me, look at their stats: 55, 27-24-51 for Kaaprizov, 56, 26-24-50 for Connor. One more goal for Kaprizov in One less game. Pretty much spot-on. They were born 4 months apart, so you can't blame that. Connor is on a 7 year $50M deal with an AAV of $7.15M, tell me again why Kaprizov at $9M is such a screaming deal?</em>
<em>I'm waiting! </em>
Forum: NHL Trades17 sep à 11 h 03
Forum: NHL Trades 5 sep à 22 h 22
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WallStreet83</b></div><div>I wonder if Montreal comes back around and swindles him from Carolina either with yheir own OS or getting him as a UFA. Will be interesting to see.</div></div>
One thing we've learned over time is that once bridges are burned with Bergevin at the helm of the ship, they aren't getting back. Ever.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Idk if Montreal massively overpaid, maybe slightly but I dont think too much, there's a lot of comments about Dvorak never reaching 40 points BUT they of course leave out context <strong>that he produced at a 44 point pace in the last two Covid shortened seasons</strong>.
From an Arizona perspective they did good by getting a 1st and 2nd for Dvorak but <strong>the 2nd isn't until the 2024 draft</strong> and they traded a guy who's a pretty steady contributor for a scratch ticket, the Yotes are obviously retooling through the draft but for then to really win this trade they're going to need to hit on that 1st round scratch ticket/pick.</div></div>
Last time Montreal traded for an Arizona centerman things went fairly good for us. For Dvorak it isn'T even how many points he scores, if he's able to emulate a diet version of what Danault was doing; Faceoff, PK and cover the better players (Even doe Suzuki will start playing bigger minute throughout the season) AND can put 40 points up the board it's a win for us. He isn't coming in town to become a prime point producer, we've got pleeenty of wingers for this, he's in town to take faceoffs and be responsible which from what I heard he is.
Your second point is way overlooked on CapFriendly, a 2024 2nd right now pretty much has the value of what? A late 3rd or early 4th at best in this year's draft? This pick is useless to Montreal for the next half decade and in the meantime it could even be traded back or we could flip a player like we did with Scandella or Kovy and get good picks for it (Berge is actually so good at this).

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Would likely be the otherway around. Montreal has more money than Carolina. It's well known that the Cane's owner is a cheapstake.</div></div>
Fans of 31 fanbase will tell you Dundon is cheap and then Carolina fanbase will tell you that he's rich and don't care about money. When your head coach has to beg for money for him and his assistants I'd say that's even worse than Melnyk-level of cheap.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</b></div><div>Lets go back to the Suzuki and Necas Draft (selected 12th and 13th).

Two picks before them; Tippett and Vilardi
Two picks after them; C. Foote and Brannstrom

2 studs and 4 duds.</div></div>
I'd go even further, except Caufield (Were he literally fell on their laps) Montreal has swung and missed on most of their pre-Caufield first rounders. (Jury's still out on Poehling) We're good at drafting in later rounds but at this point giving away a mid-late first isn't even that bad. Watch Arizona pull a 2015 Boston.
Forum: Montreal Canadiens27 aoû à 16 h 05
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