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Forum: Armchair-GM6 juin 2020 à 19 h 2
Sujet: Pontypools trade value
I feel like I'm walking into a trap here, but I'll post anyhow. In another forum a few couple years ago we looked into the way Puljujarvi had been bounced around the lineup and up and down between the AHL and NHL, how he was forced to "earn" his playing time, etc. I took a look at several young European wingers who entered the league just prior to Puljujarvi and how much ice they got with skill centers, and the difference is stark - even though Jesse was putting up similar numbers.

Here are each winger's 5v5 P/60 with their top 2 centers:

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Rantanen w/ MacKinnon: 0.00 (0:43)
Rantanen w/ Duchene: 0.00 (29:09)
Pastrnak w/ Bergeron: 1.31 (45:49)
Pastrnak w/ Krejci: 2.55 (141:15)
Nylander: NO NHL TOI
Puljujarvi w/ McDavid: 2.86 (84:01)
Puljujarvi w/ Draisaitl: 1.67 (107:28)

Rantanen and Nylander did nothing, Toronto smartly leaving Nylander in the AHL for the entire year. Puljujarvi’s numbers were better than Pastrnak’s.

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Rantanen w/ MacKinnon: 1.66 (684:55)
Rantanen w/ Duchene: 0.86 (350:34)
Pastrnak w/ Bergeron: 1.96 (61:19)
Pastrnak w/ Krejci: 2.04 (499:06)
Nylander w/ Kadri: 0.00 (4:57)
Nylander w/ Bozak: 0.00 (1.45)
Puljujarvi w/ McDavid: 1.87 (256:57)
Puljujarvi w/ Draisaitl: 2.37 (101:22)

Note the differences? Rantanen gets glued to the top-6 despite not achieving much, Pastrnak is playing with skill but also not getting top defensive assignments with Bergeron, while Nylander is playing on the 3rd line after having played well for the first half of the season in the AHL. Meanwhile Puljujarvi is not getting consistent linemates anywhere, despite scoring a an equal or better rate than his peers. Nice development plan.

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Rantanen w/ MacKinnon: 2.28 (946:52)
Rantanen w/ Duchene: 0.00 (12:48)
Pastrnak w/ Bergeron: 2.22 (541:19)
Pastrnak w/ Krejci: 1.54 (429:40)
Nylander w/ Kadri: 2.17 (360:06)
Nylander w/ Matthews: 1.82 (624:42)
Puljujarvi w/ McDavid: 1.80 (66:46)
Puljujarvi w/ Draisaitl: 0.00 (74:25)

Here we see where the other team's development plans worked out, as all 3 are getting consistent top-6 ice time and all 3 are delivering consistent results.
Unfortunately we see Puljujarvi getting jacked around still. Remember that JP was playing with a hip issue all year, until the team finally pulled the plug on his season and ordered surgery.

No question that Puljujarvi has ability, he put up similar or better numbers to these 3 very good players when healthy <em>despite</em> the screw up that was his development plan in Edmonton. I think there are multiple GM's that see a whole lot of untapped potential in this young man, they just aren't sure if they can undo the damage that's already been done. Jesse playing well in Finland has helped, but it's not the NHL and there will still be some reserves.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 juin 2020 à 16 h 43
Forum: Armchair-GM12 avr. 2020 à 14 h 11
Sujet: Bergevin Takes Advantage Of Cap Room
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Just_a_Hockey_Fan_1</b></div><div>If you can get Krug great and you might have to pay him that much to get him.
Domi will cost at least 6 million and remember Gallagher is coming up next year and he’ll be at 6 million.
Signing Hall is destroying your team, look what happened toPhoenix after the trade.
Use the money you save from Hall and pay Mete what he deserves, keep Chiarot and fill in your three roster spots ( roster must be 23)</div></div>

This is more of an idea and is very unrealistic. I really wouldn't sign Hall unless it was at a great price like under 9. I do think though that Mete will only get 1.5 mil because he hasn't shown his offensive potential. Chiarot is a great defenseman for us but eventually I think he might need to go to make space for Norlinder, Harris, etc.