1 nov 2016
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gretzkyghosts</b></div><div>No Sabre AGM commented, so I will be the first.
While many doubt this Ristolainen is Buffalo top defenseman.
Many may laugh and say so what, the whole defense sucks.
Well this defense that is suppose to suck gave up fewer 5 on 5 goals than all but 8 NHL teams last year.
They did this with a blind GK and an offense that could not keep the puck out of the defensive zone.
Please stop sending Johnsson to Buffalo.
Buffalo has Skinner, Olofsson, Johansson and Girgensons all had more goals than Johansson, why would Buffalo need a fifth LW.
Hutton has no trade value now.
To start the season he set a Sabre record for the most saves to record a shut out.
Then he went blind and could not see the puck and lost 12 games in a row while recording a +4.00 GA %
So yes he has negative value.
Kerfoot has 113 points over the last 3 seasons while Ristolainen has 117.
Ristolainen is a top pairing defenseman (on a team that did well to stop 5 on 5 goals). Kerfoot is a #3 Center.
Kerfoot does not KP, and gets very limited PP time (even the not needed Johansson got nearly double the PP time he)
I would not trade Ristolainen one for one for Kerfoot, I would need more coming back and that is not Johansson.
So Leaf fans can bemoan that this not a fair trade for them, it does nothing for Buffalo.
Johansson would be our fifth LW, in case that does not sink in, that means press box.
Kerfoot would be the Sabres 3rd center when Buffalo needs a #2 Center.
Then I need to add draft picks for players (who have value) that do not fill needs for Buffalo.
This is a very easy pass for Buffalo.
There that is my rant of the day, Stay tuned tomorrow for my next one. :laugh</div></div>
Thanks for the well thought out response! In my mind resto needs a change of senior but can still be a very good defence man. He is a bit of a risk though. I think Kerfoot is worth less because he is a forward. I think Johnsson is not a need for Buffalo but they did trade for Frolik. As a non Sabers fan it seems like they need more forwards. I truly think Johnsson would be an upgrade for Buffalo but not their biggest need. I didn't know about the eye think for Hutton or his current health but to me he seems like is has negative value but could bounce back, health reasons aside. My thinking was because of this a 2 for 2 trade with similar money going each way might make sense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>This is hilarious.
Nylander wanted 8.5 million and got 6.9. Lets translate that to non Leaf fan talk and what does it mean. Dubas sucks he gave Nylander exactly what he wanted! Hmm.....just looking at that first part seems like Nylander lost out about 1.5 million, seems like he didn't get exactly what he wanted. Matthews did, and that is fine, obviously a guy in the top 10 in scoring isn't a problem.
I will agree that the Marner deal isn't the best though. That one I'll agree Dubas lost handily. There is no way Marner is worth 5 million more than Nylander.
On a side note, I may be the only Leaf fan in the world that thinks if one of the top guys needs to be moved to balance the roster (I honestly don't think that's the solution to any of the problems they have, but that is a different story) I'd trade Marner without question. I don't think his contract will ever be a problem because I think he's going to score over a point a game for the next 6 years but as I mentioned he's not worth 5 million dollars more than Nylander. Marner shouldn't be making more than 9 in my opinion.
So Matthews and Marner's contracts start this season, so when would they have won the cup? Lets say that took a million less each and the Leafs had an addition 4 million. Who would have been brought in to give the team this amazing defence (which they already have apart from Ceci, Who isn't brutal but clearly isn't a top PK and 5V5 guy that Babs is trying to make him be)? That is the funniest part of people that chirp Dubas. They say, if he gave each player a million less, then he could have fixed the defence. How? Who could they have got? If they had 4 million now, who could they trade for? How much would that trade cost?
Its so easy for idiots on here to say stuff and never have to follow it up with anything. 1000% you have put no other thought behind saying TO's contracts are the problem. Like literally not one thought. If you did, you'd realize that even with 4 million in cap space, there really isn't many options that would have any big impact that would be affordable. Would sending a 2nd and Bracco or something for Martinez really help this team? Probably not, because Martinez isn't a top pair defenceman so even if he did move Ceci down the lineup, he's still not a top pair defenceman. So what could they do? I am sure I won't get a response with any details or ideas. Probably something like, this was too long so I didn't read it. Which is why I say its easy for idiots to say something without ever thinking beyond their statement.</div></div>
This year in my mind isn't on Dubas. In 2-3 years we will know what kind of GM he is and how these contracts look