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Forum: Armchair-GM13 mars à 12 h 40
Sujet: Karlsson to OTT
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>The question is whether San Jose believes that Pittsburgh is going to get worse next year and wants to diversify the risk. I wouldn’t give up a top 10 pick,.</div></div>

The pick is top 10 protected so if we finish in the bottom 10 it is our decision not SJs if we keep this year's and give them next year's instead, at least that's how I understand it. I imagine we would do that bc it's a guaranteed Top 10 pick (bird in hand philosophy and also whoever we draft would be, assuming all things go well, ready earlier than a 1st round pick in 2025) although of course it's a very real possibility we are worse next year so it's definitely a decision that needs to be contemplated on. I can't imagine if we do finish bottom 10 we don't give them the 25th 1st instead but who knows but as far as I know if we finish bottom 10 it's our decision not SJs...
Forum: Armchair-GM28 févr. à 10 h 46
Sujet: Guentzel to Vegas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dodominator</b></div><div>Do you have an idea who could be interested in Guentzel then? I dont really see where the interested contenders could sign him long term for more than 8 mil.
Maybe Seattle if they want to make a move for a star player after 3 more quiet years. Or detroit, but they already have Raymond, Seider Kane as free agents.</div></div>

Just today Pagnotta said Vegas was interested in both Smith and Guentzel. Vegas moves players like cards at the blackjack table so they could definitely move someone and re-sign Guentzel if they really loved him. Dallas with Seguin on LTIR is a potential though they probably want defense more. Most players would re-sign there. EDM, but unless someone take Campbell, I can't see how they extend him. Vancouver, but again, no chance at re-signing him without taking someone back.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 févr. à 9 h 55
Sujet: Guentzel to Vegas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dodominator</b></div><div>I am not to much into what the Penguins want to do, but with their recent form and being the first team in the hunt for the last wildcard/the 3rd metro spot (P%) I wasn´t sure how commited they are to selling and that they might only be interested in a trade if it helps them right now. Crosby and Malkin still seem to be good enough for the "just get in and see what happens" mindset in the playoffs.
If they just want to sell for as many futures as possible, you´re probably right, you could ask for more for a (retained) Guentzel!</div></div>

Dubas sounds like he is listening to anyone except the core four. Guessing he wants to retain 50% on Guentzel this year and get a sign and trade package for him much like Meier got. He explicitly said he wants to get younger around the core and while Guentzel is very good, he is approaching 30 soon.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 févr. à 9 h 11
Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 15 h 57
Sujet: Pens deadline sell off AND offseason
I actually think this is extremely similar to what will happen in terms of the approach. It sounds to me like we are going to be pretty all in with selling at this deadline, try and get maybe 2-3 players like Borque if we can, and then fully rebuild in like 2 years. I don't think we will be a contender next year though. I think it is more like the first stages of a rebuild and maybe hope something clicks and we go on a run, but not expecting that. It sounds to me though like the beginning stages of a rebuild, but we are taking it slower just in case something happens showing we can still contend.

Also I will add that these contracts are pretty reasonable. I think there's 0 chance a big name FA would sign a long term deal here and I don't think it would be smart for us either. Someone like Bertuzzi though for like 2 years makes sense.