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Forum: Armchair-GM29 juill. 2021 à 9 h 44
Sujet: If we are missing the playoffs and none of our pending UFAs want extensions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Raty being the "consensus" 1st OA pick a year ago is less relevant than getting passed over 51 times before finally being picked at 52nd OA.

Every scouting staff in the NHL, including that of the Islanders, doesn't seem to value Raty as highly as you.



Being projected to go in the first round is not the same as actually being picked in the first round.

You should know that.

For that reason, the return for Pageau is not the same as what Ottawa is getting in this post.



Nick Paul is one of the top penalty killers in the NHL and the type of player that Lou Lamoriello would want on his team.

Lamoriello is the same GM that spent a 2nd on pending UFA and aging pylon in chief Andy Greene.

There are many other things to what makes a solid player than just point production.



Having Cizikas come back every year has proven to not be enough to get past Tampa and win the Cup.

If the Islanders can't get by, then giving something close to what is seen here for Paul increasingly becomes a necessity.</div></div>

Ok so first if you want to bring andy greene into things, that was a special circumstance as pelech was out for the season and we desperately needed a defensive LHD.

As for the difference in return i said they were similar not the same but either way youre asking for a kings ransom for a 4th liner. You want for a 4th line rental a 2nd round pick plus a prospect picked in the 2nd round a week ago that has a really high ceiling. The islanders counter with cal clurltterbuck for 2 2nds (not interested in doan). Thats literally what youre telling me to pay. Youre out of your mind if you think thats fair.

As for not judging everything by points, thay was the wrong direction to go for you. Paul a top pker, well ill take jg over him on the pk, and the pp, and even strength by a long shot.

I love how you think since we havent won the cup we are gonna massively overpay for someone. Why dont you trade paul to COL for byram and newhook, bc they obviously need him bc they cant get past the 2nd round. Thats literally your logic.

Its actually funny bc i did an acgm where i signed paul (it was a 22-23) and i do like him as a player. But if you think you get anywhere close to this youre delusional.

And when you say the islanders dont value raty as highly as me you have no idea about that. In fact lamoriello said (and im paraphrasing) "i thought there was no way he'd still be there at 52". That means he felt hed go significantly earlier than 52.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 juill. 2021 à 9 h 4
Forum: Armchair-GM29 juill. 2021 à 8 h 46
Sujet: If we are missing the playoffs and none of our pending UFAs want extensions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Pageau netted a 1st round pick, a 2nd round pick and a conditional 3rd.

In this post, Paul is netting a late 2nd and a prospect picked late in the 2nd round while the Isles are getting back a pick in a later round.

That's not a similar return for Pageau.



Lou Lamoriello will sign Paul to an extension because he'll fall in love with him instantly.

There's nothing outrageous about it.



When Nick Paul hoists the Cup in an Isles jersey, it will become a very good deal for both sides, looking back at it.

Guaranteed.</div></div>

Lmao 1 season ago raty was the consensus 1 OA pick hes not going anywhere till we see another season at least from him.

As for pageaus return it was a late 1st and a 2nd. The 3rd was only given if we won the cup. This return for paul is a 2nd and a guy who was projected to go in the 1st round. Very similar returns. Not to mention paul is a 4th liner, pageau was on pace for 32-21-53 that year. I mean really come on.

We also have no need for paul as all signs point to cizikas coming back. We are certainly not giving anything close to that for paul.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 juill. 2021 à 8 h 31
Sujet: No Move Clauses are Waived
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Pretty easy. Let say Boston trades DeBrusk for futures and brings in Kreider for the amount above for nothing. Boston would have about $2.8 million to re-sign Krejci, which isn't enough.</div></div>

Agreed. But that value is crazy. Youd have the perfection line, hall-?(krejci)-smith, kreider-coyle/haula-coyle/foligno. Youd have 4 3rd liners amd 1 of them doesnt have a spot. Rn if you trade debrusk youre good and if you get kreider youd have to move 1 of foligno, coyle, or haula. Moving a fa that qas just signed isnt ideal in any way but it does make your team better. Anyway this is all hypothetical bc kreider isnt waiving and drury would never offer this. (Its also funny that the 1 team that has a logjam is the one he was traded to lol).
Forum: Armchair-GM29 juill. 2021 à 2 h 20