22 juill. 2021
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Raty being the "consensus" 1st OA pick a year ago is less relevant than getting passed over 51 times before finally being picked at 52nd OA.
Every scouting staff in the NHL, including that of the Islanders, doesn't seem to value Raty as highly as you.
Being projected to go in the first round is not the same as actually being picked in the first round.
You should know that.
For that reason, the return for Pageau is not the same as what Ottawa is getting in this post.
Nick Paul is one of the top penalty killers in the NHL and the type of player that Lou Lamoriello would want on his team.
Lamoriello is the same GM that spent a 2nd on pending UFA and aging pylon in chief Andy Greene.
There are many other things to what makes a solid player than just point production.
Having Cizikas come back every year has proven to not be enough to get past Tampa and win the Cup.
If the Islanders can't get by, then giving something close to what is seen here for Paul increasingly becomes a necessity.</div></div>
Ok so first if you want to bring andy greene into things, that was a special circumstance as pelech was out for the season and we desperately needed a defensive LHD.
As for the difference in return i said they were similar not the same but either way youre asking for a kings ransom for a 4th liner. You want for a 4th line rental a 2nd round pick plus a prospect picked in the 2nd round a week ago that has a really high ceiling. The islanders counter with cal clurltterbuck for 2 2nds (not interested in doan). Thats literally what youre telling me to pay. Youre out of your mind if you think thats fair.
As for not judging everything by points, thay was the wrong direction to go for you. Paul a top pker, well ill take jg over him on the pk, and the pp, and even strength by a long shot.
I love how you think since we havent won the cup we are gonna massively overpay for someone. Why dont you trade paul to COL for byram and newhook, bc they obviously need him bc they cant get past the 2nd round. Thats literally your logic.
Its actually funny bc i did an acgm where i signed paul (it was a 22-23) and i do like him as a player. But if you think you get anywhere close to this youre delusional.
And when you say the islanders dont value raty as highly as me you have no idea about that. In fact lamoriello said (and im paraphrasing) "i thought there was no way he'd still be there at 52". That means he felt hed go significantly earlier than 52.