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NHL Signings
28 juill. 2021 à 16 h 24
Sujet:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Brayden Point (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)
He's worth every penny and a whole lot more pennies, but our team next year is genuinely going to be Stamkos, Kucherov, Point, Cirelli, Killorn, Hedman, McDonagh, Sergachev, Cernak, Vasilevskiy, and 10 guys making no more than $1m. Serious question—is that enough to contend? The Oilers are living proof that a couple of stars on a team without depth don't make you a contender, but that's more than just a couple of stars and we have stars in every position (though McDonagh's ability to maintain a high level of play throughout his contract is probably going to be a massive question mark). But there's still <em>no</em> depth behind it at all unless our front office keeps creating talented young players out of thin air.
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NHL Signings
28 juill. 2021 à 12 h 26
Sujet:
Calgary Flames signed Blake Coleman (6 Years / $4,900,000 AAV)
I don't understand why players don't just sign in Tampa for 1-2 years at League minimum. You have a decent chance at winning a Cup, and then afterwards, you can sign a contract like this.
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NHL Trades
28 juill. 2021 à 0 h 7
Sujet:
(CHI/TBL) - Seabrook for Johnson + 2nd
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>So Seabrook's on LTIR?
This league's a joke. It just seems like every GM not in contention is doing everything to make sure TB wins it every year by giving them valuable assets for dirt cheap. Nobody wanted Johnson for free but for a late ass 2nd two years away you're giving them the most precious item in this world, cap space and LTIR?!</div></div>
LTIR is a handicap, not an asset. We just added a $6.8m cap hit. When that cap hit goes onto LTIR, we get <em>up to </em> $6.8m of cap relief, but we still have the $6.8m cap hit, leaving us with, at best, a net zero gain. However, while our relief cannot exceed $6.8m, it will only be as much as we use, meaning we technically have $0 in cap space and hence do not accrue cap space. So we can't make deadline moves as easily as other teams. For $5m of cap space, cap accrual + a 2nd + Johnson's contributions is a fantastic price to pay. But it's still just that—a price. If Chicago had made taking Seabrook optional, unless BriseBois didn't understand the cap, we would have said no without even giving it a thought.
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NHL Signings
22 juill. 2021 à 14 h 58
Sujet:
Edmonton Oilers signed Mike Smith (2 Years / $2,200,000 AAV)
I honestly don't think this signing is as bad as everyone is thinking. He had a good season, and while he's old and not particularly likely to repeat that, he also costs only $2.2m for two years. I'm guessing Edmonton has been having trouble finding goaltending options. At best, Smith will repeat what he did last season, but at worst, he's an okay backup and a good mentor figure for whoever Edmonton manages to find. $2.2m for a backup goalie is not the end of the world. Even if they have to move him, it's probably not going to cost too much. You can't let him walk unless you are confident that you can replace him. I'm not saying I love this move for the Oilers (Smith is not a long-term option and this signing probably signals a lack of confidence that they can find anyone else to use instead, which is a massive hole in that roster), but I definitely don't think it's a terrible signing either.
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NHL Trades
17 juill. 2021 à 16 h 7
Sujet:
(NYR/TBL) - 2022 7th round pick for Goodrow
We just converted a 1st round pick into a 7th round pick. Huge loss. Fire JBB.
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NHL Trades
16 juill. 2021 à 23 h 2
Sujet:
(NYI/DET) - Leddy for Pánik & 2021 2nd round pick
I don't <em>hate</em> this deal for Yzerman, because Detroit has the cap room and he can probably flip Leddy for better assets at the deadline once contenders know who they are and have accrued cap space. Defensive depth is a valuable luxury; just look at what Tampa paid for Savard. But I do think Yzerman should have had leverage given NYI's cap problems, and he didn't make great use of it as all. So that's a huge win for the Islanders, and I wonder what Yzerman was thinking here when there are so many teams who would have pretty much let him rob them because of the flat cap struggle.
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Armchair-GM
14 juill. 2021 à 20 h 30
Sujet:
Trying to do my best one yet
I’d love that Coleman deal but it seems like wishful thinking. It might end up being Goodrow instead for slightly less money than that. I also wonder if Seattle does that trade. I think it’s a win-win type of thing but they might be thinking that they have more leverage than that.
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Armchair-GM
14 juill. 2021 à 20 h 28
Sujet:
Chucky2Trades
There’s no way the Lightning do that Cernak trade. Cernak is extremely effective and very cheap—we can’t afford to trade assets like that away, especially if you’re not taking Johnson and you’re not giving us back someone cheap who can play right away on a cap-controlled contract.
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NHL Trades
12 avr. 2021 à 8 h 28
Sujet:
(BOS/BUF) - Bjork and 2nd round pick for Hall, Lazar
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dzinger18</b></div><div>Somehow Savard is worth a 1st and a 3rd, but Hall is worth a 2nd.</div></div>
One of us needed 75% retention to afford the guy we wanted :p
Edit: That being said, I guess Detroit just got a 4th, so the extra retention probably wasn't it. The difference here is that Buffalo had few options then (Hall had trade protection, I believe). There were likely few teams that could afford $4m for Hall, were willing to take that risk even though he's not having the best of years in Buffalo right now, and that Hall was willing to go to. With Buffalo forced like that, they can't ask for a lot. CBJ could have moved Savard anywhere and lots of teams want solid, cheap defensemen rentals.
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NHL Trades
12 avr. 2021 à 8 h 27
Sujet:
(BOS/BUF) - Bjork and 2nd round pick for Hall, Lazar
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Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 20
Sujet:
Far Fetched
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Let's imagine you can waive a NMC, then Wings have no motivation to give up Stecher and the two picks. or take Coburn.</div></div>
The trade would be completed first and would include “future considerations”. That consideration would be that we will waive Stamkos and they will pick him up. Obviously the NMC makes that impossible and anyway, I wouldn’t see Detroit as a good fit. But Stamkos is still a top 20 center in this League and it’s not often one of those becomes available.
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Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2020 à 19 h 16
Sujet:
Far Fetched
You can’t waive Stamkos on an NMC anyway, and this is the type of move that really loses the faith of the room and hurts negotiations down the line. This doesn’t help Detroit either. Stamkos doesn’t make them a playoff team, but he does lower their draft position. By the time Detroit can build a good group around Stamkos, he’ll probably be too old to really contribute. This is absolutely a lose-lose trade.
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Armchair-GM
25 oct. 2020 à 17 h 29
Sujet:
What the Lightning should do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>All three of the RFA are gone if that's your offer.</div></div>
Everyone thought Point would rather leave than sign $6.75 x 3. Tampa has everything these players could want (no state taxes, good weather, low media pressure but heavy fan support, competent management, and a contender who just won it all) and a culture around taking discounts. I doubt these players are looking for offer sheets and it’s not a coincidence that things always find a way to work for Tampa.
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Armchair-GM
25 oct. 2020 à 17 h 22
Sujet:
Tampa Navigates the Cap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Theozler</b></div><div>Bridge deals for sergachev and cirelli are absolute bare minimum 3.5/yr and honesty that's low considering they could sign offer sheets between 5 and 7 annually</div></div>
Sergachev <em>maybe</em>. If anyone is offering Cirelli $7m right now, they’re delusional.
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Armchair-GM
25 oct. 2020 à 17 h 19
Sujet:
CapCrunch
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RamonDaze</b></div><div>If I'm Buffalo, rather than taking on 4x5M of Johnson's age 30 years, I'd offer Cirelli 4x4.3M and send the 2nd rd pick to TB if they don't match. In general if GM's with the cap space and picks for offer sheets the three RFA's from Tampa don't make the offer sheets they're idiots.</div></div>
And what do you do when Cirelli says “lol no” to your offer and hangs up?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 oct. 2020 à 11 h 58
Sujet:
Cap Relief For TBL Could Still Work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>I'm not sure what the rules are around buying out a newly acquired contract, but you're clearing $7.5M cap space in this scenario. I don't think many teams are willing to take that kind of cap AND give up a 1st.</div></div>
Well I doubt Killorn and Johnson go to the same place and I doubt we’d get a 1st. I would be delighted if we could do exactly this and re-sigh everyone under the cap. I just don’t think we’d end under the cap and I’m not sure Edmonton accepts.
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Armchair-GM
13 oct. 2020 à 16 h 55
Sujet:
Tyler Johnson offer for the whole league Please
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>markykins1</b></div><div>Johnson's got to go out with the 2021 1st (which will be # 30, 31, 32 so it's low to begin with. A 2nd from Tampa is 60+ so not enough to take on 5 million. A nice prospect (like you have here) and next years 1st is to take on the whole salary is being nice. The contract is 4 years long. In hockey that's an eternity.</div></div>
There’s a good chance he goes to Seattle after this season. Obviously no guarantee, but contrary to popular belief, his NTC would not stop him from being exposed to Seattle. So then it wouldn’t be four years and you retain other assets. It’s risky though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 oct. 2020 à 16 h 51
Sujet:
Cap Relief For TBL Could Still Work
We can’t do a buyout as it is passed the deadline and we don’t have two arbitration-eligible RFAs. And honestly we simply don’t have room to retain salary.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 oct. 2020 à 23 h 5
Sujet:
Alternative if the NTCs refuse to waive
If Point gets traded I’m rioting.
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Armchair-GM
12 oct. 2020 à 23 h 2
Sujet:
I tried
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BOLTLOVER1</b></div><div>Cirelli should be signed for about 3M .. enough to keep Cernek</div></div>
I would be ecstatic if he signed that. I have him estimated at $4m x 2. I know the market is deflated right now but I just can’t see him getting less on a bridge than Johnson or Palat on their bridges (both of those guys were playing on another level back then at least offensively and Cirelli wasn’t amazing in the bubble, but he did just finish 4th in Selke voting so that costs money).
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Armchair-GM
11 oct. 2020 à 12 h 17
Sujet:
Bro who want Johnson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BOLTLOVER1</b></div><div>COULD not disagree with your post more.. we won because of additions of Shattwrkirk Bogo Maroon Schenn Colemen and Goodrow .. NONE of which is on a long term conyrcat and most 1 year ... TJ and Gourde contrcats could cost up Cups going forward.. it that bad .. warned people of this ths last 2 years</div></div>
I agree that Coleman and Goodrow were integral to that Cup and everyone you mentioned was a contributor. And do we win without Johnson? Almost definitely. But do we win without Palat? Without Gourde (7g on the third line is pretty good, is it not)? Without Killorn? You can't always just plug in whoever at the deadline. I'd be in favor of signing guys like that to shorter contracts but the problem is they just won't sign it. The only reason I think this is so bad is because these guys have NTCs. That's the part that completely confuses me. NTCs are for your stars, not for your random depth players like Johnson. In theory it makes them sign at a discount but Johnson at $5m was literally never a discount. Take away the NTCs and we're just fine. The NTCs could absolutely cost us future Cups, but I don't fault Yzerman for signing Johnson and BriseBois for signing Gourde in the first place.
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Armchair-GM
11 oct. 2020 à 12 h 6
Sujet:
Reality starting to hit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Theozler</b></div><div>I never understood the gourde contract when it was signed, especially with the ntc. Johnson at least had some history backing up his.</div></div>
Gourde was way more valuable than Johnson in the bubble. He definitely contributed to that Cup win and I feel like his contributions are understated, especially since some users on this site have some odd vendetta against him. Right now, I think the team genuinely doesn't <em>want</em> to get rid of Gourde, and if we do, it will be because we absolutely had to. But we'd do anything within reason to get rid of Johnson right now. Which sucks because I liked him as a player, but yeah, he has to go.
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Armchair-GM
11 oct. 2020 à 5 h 58
Sujet:
Bro who want Johnson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BOLTLOVER1</b></div><div>Bottom 4 cap teams are ones left .. Ottawa Buffalo Detroit and NJ .. was thinking cost us a 5th but market rapidly moving away towards costing a #2 .. what a disaster.. NEVER sign non core assets to long term contracts.. ever</div></div>
I don't think we could win a Cup without having any non-core guys signed to long-term contracts. For what Johnson has given us over this contract, if all we lose is a 2nd, I'm not going to be outraged.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 oct. 2020 à 5 h 53
Sujet:
Reality starting to hit
If we're not re-signing Cernak, the decent thing to do is to trade him.
Forum:
NHL Signings
10 oct. 2020 à 21 h 12
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed Zach Bogosian (1 Year / $1,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>Not great in Buffalo, but quite good in Tampa during the bubble. We'll see which one's the real Bogosian after a full season.</div></div>
Tampa can shelter a defenseman better than anybody. Like I wish Shattenkirk all the best but I would not be surprised if Anaheim is very disappointed in what they get from him. So Bogosian can look serviceable when paired with, say, Hedman. The Leafs don't have a Hedman, but they're probably better than the Sabres at defense. We'll see.
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