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Forum: NHL Signings30 juill. 2019 à 16 h 55
Sujet: New Jersey Devils signed Nikita Gusev (2 Years / $4,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>What makes Gusev a top line winger in the NHL? He's shown nothing, never skated a shift. Gusev is as much of an unknown in the NHL as a recent draft pick. Just because he produce in the KHL for a few years doesn't mean he can do it here.</div></div>

I suspect you haven't seen him in action..

His skill level is top tier. The only thing I can see hold him back in the NHL is all the conservative North Americans who won't let skilled players play their game.

Nhl has gotten better in recent years getting rid of more and more goons. The only way to keep making it better is to bring in more skilled players and get rid of more "less talented but big heart" kind of players.
Forum: NHL Signings19 mai 2019 à 5 h 40
Sujet: Dallas Stars signed Esa Lindell (6 Years / $5,800,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>That plus minus is a useless stat for one. It is literally the first thing you learn. Ron hainsey led the leafs in +/- this year for example.
There are other dmen who get buried in their own zone and put up positive Corsi numbers and the like. Pesce, Theodore, Rielly, the list goes on and on.

Dzone starting % is also not as important statistically as one might think it is in determining how a player is affected stats wise. It does play a part, that is not in question, but we overcompensate for it in our heads relative to what it is actually worth.

You know, I'm trying to be helpful here, no need to act like a child with the last bit there.</div></div>

I know +/- isn't always great stat to look at. But combined with dzone starts I think it is kind of relevant. Nowadays everyone is too hooked on corsi. Corsi doesn't tell you much at all if you don't start to combine it with other stats aswell and it doesn't tell you about how you play. Maybe you take alot of ****ty shots instead of passing the open guy with a better scoring chance.
Forum: NHL Signings18 mai 2019 à 19 h 23
Sujet: Dallas Stars signed Esa Lindell (6 Years / $5,800,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>I just want to address the little things bit here:
Analytics are specifically designed to HIGHLIGHT the little things that you don't notice. That is what they are developed for. The ones I posted here are FAR from the only important ones, but they illustrate a point in an easy to use and digest manner. They are meant to show things like breaking up plays and zone exits (corsi is one form of the latter).

The Dallas Stars are one of the teams that are known to not use analytics at all, along with Ken Holland and others.

What the chart say (this year) is that Lindell took low percentage shots and scored on more than would normally be expected (the left 2 most columns). It also says that his team generally shoots the puck less when he is on the ice, meaning they have the puck less (stuck in the D zone, middle column). The defensive metrics say that the other team shoots the puck from slightly less dangerous positions than when he is off the ice (this is shot %/ high danger scoring chances, 4th column) and that the other team shoots the puck more/ has the puck more when Lindell is on the ice vs when he is off.

Going back to what Nill said, the underlying metrics say his eye test is wrong in this instance. It is the reason why the traditional DFD is going out of style, because they can be good in corners and keeping guys to the outside, the puck is always in their end of the ice vs a TWD or OFD getting the puck out of his own end.</div></div>

Not too hard to understand that they shoot less with Lindell om the ice since he starts 65% of his shifts in dzone. But even though he had the highest percentage of dzone starts he still had the best +/- of all d-men in Dallas

What does the underlying metrics have to say about that?