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Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 19 h 41

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Just simplify… and do Caufield and Calgary 1st.</div></div>

Caufield? Heck no. He ain’t going nowhere

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 17 h 4

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MellowK</b></div><div>I'm just laying out the info. That package wouldn't be close for me to give up #2. Allen and Ylonen are not useful. Allen is fine, but not nearly adequate to fix the Devils goaltending, Ylonen would likely never play an NHL game in NJ and NJ would have to add quite a bit to get Fiala with Calgary's first being the base.

I'd rather trade #2 straight up for Fiala and I wouldn't do that either.</div></div>

Fair but Ylonen is better than most give him credit. He’s very reliable defensively. I’ve watched every Laval Rocket game the last two years and Ylonen is very smart. Super fast too

Forum: Montreal Canadiens14 juin à 17 h 1

Sujet: Otto Leskinen

Bringing back Otto Leskinen is a good move. Very smart puck mover. PP quarterback type player. Not sure where he fits?

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 16 h 56

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Ok, since you seem to be the most reasonable person to reply and at least provided some insight into what the Devils needs are, how about this for value\need

Barron + Allen + Ylonen + 2022 1st (Calgary) fills all needs and the Devils get back a 1st.</div></div>

This is getting close. My only ouch moment is Barron. Jersey has Severson & Hamilton both legit top 4 dmen. And Barron is not a 3rd pairing guy. I would drop Barron and add a winger.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 16 h 52

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>You don't get #2OA with just a 2023 1st, even without protection. There's a much larger chance that the Devils wind up with a lower pick next year than getting one of the top 2 picks, so you gotta do more there. Sorry.</div></div>

As a Habs fan I agree with you. More needs to be added from Montreal.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 16 h 50

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MellowK</b></div><div>Holes are Top-6 winger, RHD and goaltending.

Struble and Farrell aren't anything honestly. Devils already have too many LHD with more on the way and Farrell is yet another undersized left-handed forward who easily gets beat out by several of the guys in Utica, never mind on the Devils.

Edmundson is fine, but he'd be on the 3rd pairing clogging up the LHD pool I've already mentioned. I'd much rather see Bahl/Smith/Okhotyuk/Mukhamadullin/Vukojevic (see what I mean by too many LHD?) fighting for that position.

Also in the context of the late firsts that Montreal has, I would assume Fitz wouldn't be drafting with them. No reason to trade down in the draft for a player that's likely a depth piece 2-3 years away at best when what the Devils are really lacking is high-end pieces. I assume any picks coming back would be flipped for a guy like Fiala, which makes the trade even messier (and even less likely).</div></div>

The only aspect I disagree with is you saying jersey has holes at RD. They have Severson and Hamilton, 2 really good dmen and definitely top 4 types.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 16 h 47

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Toby_flenderson</b></div><div>If the Devils are trading the #2 pick to Montreal, and Suzuki/Caufield/Romanov are not part of the return, here is the ask :

2023 unprotected 1st round pick
Kaiden Guhle
Justin Barron
Christian Dvorak</div></div>

Ouch that hurt. Dvo and 1st no problem. Guhle and Barron is the ouch factor, both are future top 4s. I see jerseys team a little ahead of Montreal, which is why a 25 to 29 year old might fit. I would also add next years 1st.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 16 h 41

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>It would have to be something big.

A young (age 20-24), controllable, "heavy skill" top-line forward.

Not sure if there is anything that fits from Habs.</div></div>

I laughed, not at you, but when a team has a top line 20-24 skilled forward they tend not to part with them. Jersey has some young players that are really good so I thought they might be interested in a 25 to 29 year old player. Similar to Ottawa, they have good young players they need a little older to help grow the group.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 16 h 37

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_need_Scoring</b></div><div>I dont think theres anyway to make it work on both ends. The devils will demand cauf or suzuki, and habs wont part with either. Also doesnt help that they will snag Slafkovsky at number 2 which fils a need for them. If i was MTL i would look at acquiring the 3rd OA pick, and draft Slaf first then you get one of Cooley or Wright with the 3rd, but thats also a very difficult trade to agree too.</div></div>

Risky, but not a bad idea.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 13 h 17

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Prepare for Jersey fans saying it starts with Zuke or Caufield +!</div></div>

I figured, that’s why I said they’re not available. Jersey has some nice pieces. Hab fans keep trading petry there, but jersey is set on the right side. They don’t need petry. They have some skilled forwards as well. So I’m curious if there might be a possible trade.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 13 h 10

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>A 2nd overall pick means a 100% possibility of drafting Simon Nemec, whose potential is significantly higher than Romanov's.</div></div>

I definitely see Slafkovsky ahead of Nemec, so I was more focused on that player.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 13 h 7

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>raph222b</b></div><div>Unless Guhle is determined to be an insane top 4 next year, I would put Romy as untouchable.</div></div>

I think Guhle will eventually be a top 4, in 2 to 4 years from now.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin à 13 h 6

Sujet: What would it take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>I really wouldn't put Romanov in the list of untouchables for the 2nd overall pick.</div></div>

I would, only because he’s only going to get better but thank you for your feedback. I’m trying to hit a home run, seeing it’s in Montreal. Just curious

Forum: Armchair-GM10 juin à 23 h 55

Sujet: Leafs

Montreal says non merci!

Forum: Armchair-GM9 juin à 21 h 49

Sujet: Ducksheim

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pete</b></div><div>Yes, but they're either too young or rather nhl to ahl pendlers with less nhl play experience than Benoit, the son of Quebec.</div></div>

He only has 59 games nhl experience. Edmundson, Romanov both have more experience. Harris looked good, Ghule is a future top 4, schueneman played well, Norlinder is also in the mix. So Montreal is pretty solid on left side.

Forum: Armchair-GM9 juin à 16 h 34

Sujet: Ducksheim

Montreal has a lot of depth on left side.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG9 juin à 11 h 58

Sujet: Interest

Although Montreal has depth on left side, this is an interesting proposal. Retaining a million for several years isn’t preferred. I think of leaf’s paying kessel $1.2 million for many years when they had serious cap issues but the D coming back is a good young piece. After consultation I would lean towards doing this trade

Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin à 21 h 22

Sujet: Next Season

Subban 100% will never play for Montreal again.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin à 21 h 16

Sujet: Rebuild Time

Whoever gets Weber will pay $0 zero because he’s on ltir, which means insurance pays 100% of his salary.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG8 juin à 21 h 14

Sujet: Petry Bruins

Harris isn’t going anywhere and I doubt bruins want to part with pasta.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin à 0 h 27

Sujet: Just pondering

As much as I would like to see Drouin moved, Arizona really like Groulx. So I don’t see this trade happening

Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin à 0 h 21

Sujet: My 1st 5 draft picks for Habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>My top 5 picks (if still available)

1. Wright
2. Miroshnichenko (he is back training so not as much risk now)
3. Trikozov
4. Kyrou (I think he will be a steal at 62. 60 points in 66 games in what is basically his first season in the OHL and he's a RHD! Sign me up!)
5. Warren would be an ok pick here but that's only cause there are so many unknown variables through this draft with some leagues being shutdown for basically 2 years.</div></div>

Good choices. I’ve seen Kyrou a lot in Erie. I like his game. The OHL shutdown hurt a lot of players development.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin à 0 h 13

Sujet: My 1st 5 draft picks for Habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DucharmetheDOMinator</b></div><div>Can you give more information of the bottom 3?</div></div>

David Goyette. Lost a full year of development in OHL because of lockdown, yet he played mostly as 1st line C for Sudbury. Excellent speed and possession game.

Maveric Lamoureux 6’7” 210 lbs. has a mean streak. Blocks pucks, gets in lanes, long reach. Not much offense. Needs to work on his pivots.

Noah Warren 6’5” 224 lbs. another nasty mean D. his strength is in his zone. From half wall down he shines. He gets in lanes. For a big player he needs to work on his shot, his feet positioning and when to pinch.

Forum: Armchair-GM7 juin à 23 h 56

Sujet: My 1st 5 draft picks for Habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DucharmetheDOMinator</b></div><div>If Chesley falls to 29, if be pleasantly surprised</div></div>

Chesley will need at least 3 years at NCAA to work on his offensive game. I’m not saying he will absolutely go 29th. He’s in that range. I also know the Leafs have been looking at Calle Odelius. So who knows where he goes.

Forum: Armchair-GM7 juin à 23 h 51

Sujet: My 1st 5 draft picks for Habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howisjulienstillhere</b></div><div>You appear to have been a scout for the Habs based on a comment above so this is some interesting inside. I just wonder about the upside of the picks. I quite like warren especially at 65 but, he and lamoroux are bottom pair guys maybe 2 pair if everything works for warren but I don’t really like lamoroux, kinda awkward out there and not great at much. Goyette is solid but will be be anything more than a decently skilled third line passer(basically drouin). Chesley is solid especially considering our lack of good rhd prospects but he’s rhd version of guhle( not as tough though)

I’d have to see every other pick you made but guys like firkus, lambert(who knows teams are weird some times) miroschnichenko, gleb etc... have much higher upside

I wouldn’t mind a safe pick and a swing but grabbing 3 shut down rhd and a 3 line passer at best isn’t the best use of resources in my opinion

Also we have two seconds...</div></div>

I coached & scouted from 1992 until 2015. I could have continued but my kids needed me more at home during their teenage years. I had a decent size summer camp from 1998 until 2014 and that’s where I met most of the players as my camps included mental training & dryland training.

On draft day so many parts change so who knows who is available once it’s your turn. 50% of drafted players play in the NHL. I believe long term (3 to 4 years) the Habs are Ghule, Barron, Romanov, Mailloux, Harris. 5,6,7 should include Arber on the left & one of the 3 RD’s.

Plus of the 5 players I mentioned only Wright has shot of playing right away, so other 4 have time to develop.

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