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NHL
8 juill. 2020 à 1 h 0
Sujet:
Worst Drafts by Team since 2000?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>One thing I'd love to see is an analysis of how well/poorly a team drafted in a year relative to the overall quality of the draft.
For instance, Chicago is awful in 2000, but on the whole, that draft year wasn't anything to write home about. The two guys they picked in the first round were 1st and 2nd in the CSS's European rankings, and less than half of that entire first round ever amounted to anything.
Phoenix in 2003 may have had the worst draft since 2000. Not only did none of their picks make the NHL, but they were also the only team to accomplish that. In fact, every other team had a least one player which played a full NHL season.</div></div>
I think draft accuracy has improved since the ‘04 lockout. I am not sure that there was a huge change in the way that scouts identify players, but there is so much more data available at every level. If teams missed in the first two rounds in the past it was seen as a waste, but known unknown. Now, if you miss in the first or second rounds there It’s seen as a huge bust and jobs will be lost.
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NHL
7 juill. 2020 à 2 h 42
Sujet:
Worst Drafts by Team since 2000?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>that 07 bruins draft was ROUGH. they did absolutely nothing draft wise from 07-09 before drafting seguin in 10 which the rest of their draft was hot garbage. Chiarelli had some horrible drafts here.</div></div>
I think that '15 might have been an unmitigated disaster if Carlo hadn't been there, too. To have gotten stuck with three consecutive picks and unable to move them?! Then not taking Barzal, Chabot, Boeser, or Svechnikov? Debrusk and Carlo plus two of those four and you have yourself perhaps the greatest draft class ever taken. Instead you have Senyshyn and Zboril doing... nothing. I will say this about the 2015 draft class. Every single player taken in the fist round has played in the NHL. That's one hell of a deep draft.
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5 juill. 2020 à 16 h 59
Sujet:
Oilers vs Hawks PLZ VOTE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Mcdavid and Draisaitl or Towes and Kane will decide the series.</div></div>
Bold prediction. Really going out on a limb there.
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Armchair-GM
5 juill. 2020 à 14 h 14
Sujet:
Oilers vs Hawks PLZ VOTE
Oilers Blackhawks
Goalie x
x Size
x D-men
x Scoring
Experience x
Leadership x
x Depth
x Speed
Assuming the Oilers can get up to their top-gear early I think this one goes to the Oilers in 4. However, I think the Black Hawks have the experience to beat the Oilers until they can beat the Oilers if they aren't able to get to that high-pace offense off the rip.
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4 juill. 2020 à 21 h 50
Sujet:
Kane
He might be 35, but he's still producing at 50 goal pace. He takes a pay cut and that screws other players looking to go to arbitration and looking for comps. Backstrom just signed for 9.2. No way he garners under 10. IF, IF he wants to take a home town discount, which I don't think he will have to do, that's fantastic for the Caps. I don't see that happening unless he falls off a cliff next season. I don't think you can bank on him taking less money. I think, given his age you can bank on front-loaded even money.
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4 juill. 2020 à 21 h 31
Sujet:
Kane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Ovechkin gets maybe 7 million Vrana gets 6 or less? Sammy gets a 2m bridge deal. Seems doable trade kempny and ovechkins pay cup goes to vrana. 3rd line doesn’t need to be just a 3rd line they could play 17 minutes. Oshie would be a great mentor for Mcmichael</div></div>
I don't see Ovechkin taking a $3M pay cut. The PA would flip out. He will get at least 10. Vrana will be around 6, I agree. I think you're looking closer to $3M+ for Samsonov. That's $3-ish mil that you have to come up with over your current cap space. I don't disagree that it would be nice to have Oshie mentoring McMichael. However, I don't want to be spending $5.75M on my 3RW. I guess for a year it works... I still would want a better 2C. I guess there is the hope that McMichael can move up after the season. I think I'd prefer Kuzy over Kane. Then have McMichael at that 3RW spot his first season.
We can agree that Kempney will not be on this team after 20-21. Too many good young D-men ready to move up.
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4 juill. 2020 à 21 h 4
Sujet:
Kane
I don't think this is an upgrade to Washington's roster. Oshie isn't a 3RW. If anything I am putting Vrana and Kane together, but I don't see Lars Eller being the 2C. Eller, Panik, and Oshie will all have to be moved to free up enough cap space to sign Ovechkin, Vrana, and Samsonov. Now you also have to find a 2C or hope that McMichael is ready to step into that roll and plug in a 3C.
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4 juill. 2020 à 16 h 41
Sujet:
New details for the upcoming CBA agreement (Per TSN)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Yeah it appears they used this new agreement to fix a couple loopholes and weird potential scenarios. I just hope they decide to take another look at exploring legal cap circumvention. I think they need to give teams a small cap discount for resigning their own drafted players. Even if only for the 30+ age group. Its getting to the point where many of the over age 30+ players contracts who've signed that massive deal to stay with their draft team is only anchoring the teams cap and adding over excessive pressure for the players. I get they want player movement but they should also try to not hamper teams who do well too much by making resigning players they've drafted almost impossible in some situations. IMHO.</div></div>
I don’t disagree. However, I think that will be dealt with in the next CBA after the BoG figure out a plan. Right now there were more pressing issues like escrow that seem like they were addressed.
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NHL
4 juill. 2020 à 14 h 38
Sujet:
New details for the upcoming CBA agreement (Per TSN)
I’m very happy with these bullet points. I think both sides got a little and gave a little. I think the PA understood what was best for the game long term which was best for them long term. I think the owners were reasonable in how they went about recouping potential losses from this pandemic. I am very happy to see how they went about managing the salary cap. I think it was the best way to not adversely effect any teams or players.
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NHL
4 juill. 2020 à 14 h 24
Sujet:
Which Team Benefits the Most from the new Playoff Format
My vote- Colorado Avalanche
This team was hurt all year. They were going to be without a healthy Mikko Rantanen. Now, Makar has had time to heal and catch his breath, Mikko is back on the top line and actually playing in the playoffs. and this team has all the talent to be very dangerous and get hot quick.
St. Louis is also getting back Tarasenko. He alone is enough to garner votes for St. Louis benefitting from the break.
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NHL
4 juill. 2020 à 12 h 19
Sujet:
Worst Drafts by Team since 2000?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EnvironmentalTwister</b></div><div>Good list. I'd add the Leafs 2004 draft. Combined 54 games between Justin Pogge and Robbie Earl.
They didn't have a 1st rounder due to the Leetch trade (which was a good deal), but botched the rest of that draft. Although it's not as bad compared to some of the goose eggs you listed, drafting Pogge led to him having a greater spotlight at the 2006 WJC. He and Rask played great, but Canada won the gold with Pogge as the goalie. Months later Rask is traded for Raycroft.</div></div>
That one was on my radar, too. For the reasons you stated I decided to go with 2011. It was hard to kill teams that missed on drafts where they didn’t have a first rounder. I was tempted to ask which team had the worst draft overall.
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NHL
4 juill. 2020 à 3 h 12
Sujet:
Worst Drafts by Team since 2000?
I was going through and looking at what the Caps would have had if they had never made a trade since the Ovechkin draft. I was distracted by the thought of, "Wow, that '04 draft was amazing. That '12 draft was great, too!" However, there were some years that apart from one player... those were some misses. I was curious to wonder, "Which draft do you think was the worst for each team since 2000?" I've cast my votes below. Are there any specific drafts since 2000 that really leave a sour taste in your mouth?
Ducks: 2006
Had 3 picks in top 100 and missed on all three. At #19 overall they took Mark Mitera. Matt Beleskey would be their one redeeming point in this draft. Interestingly enough, the Ducks would have the #19 pick in 2007 and also strike out. They probably thought they would get another Ryan Getzlaf like they did in 2003 with pick #19.
Coyotes: 2003
1997 and 1999 were probably worse drafts, but they don't meet the parameters of this exercise. Not a single Coyotes pick made it to the NHL from their 2003 draft. For that reason I have chosen it the worst draft since 2000. I should state that although they did have eight picks in this draft their first selection wasn't until pick #77.
Bruins: 2007
The six picks made by the Bruins in 2007 combined for 23GP in the NHL . Zach Hamill, taken 8th overall, played 20 of them. Not to mention your #8 pick in the draft only managed to play 20 games in the NHL. That's a big swing and miss.
Sabres: 2010
The Sabres didn't completely swing and miss on the 23rd overall pick in Mark Pysyk. However, they had four more picks in the top 100 that never played a game in the NHL. Of their nine picks in 2010 Pysyk was the only one to make it to the NHL.
Flames: 2006
Only 13 total NHL games played by eight draft picks in this class... all played by Leland Irving taken 26th overall. Plus, only 13GP out of your first round pick? Not good. Still on the board? Nick Foligno, Jamie McGinn, Nikolay Kulemin, and Milan Lucic.
Hurricanes: 2001
The Hurricanes got 197 games out of Mike Zigomanis taken 46th overall, but they completely missed at #15 with Igor Knyazev. They got 10 games out of the other seven players they took, all by Rob Zepp at #110. Instead of Knyazev the Canes could have had R.J. Umberger (#16), Marcel Goc (#20), or Tim Gleason (#23).
Blackhawks: 2000
There were a few drafts that stood out, but then I looked at 2000. Seven picks in top 151, 15 total picks, picks #10 and #11... not a single player over 60 NHL games played. Eight players with 0GP and three more with >10. Mikhail Yakubov and Pavel Vorobiev could have been Ron Hainsey (#13), Brooks Orpik (#18), Justin Williams (#28), or Niklas Kronwall (#29).
Avalanche: 2014
A swing and a miss. A total of 66 NHL games played so far, all by Anton Lindholm. He was pick #144 that year. Three picks in the top 100... 0GP.
Blue Jackets: 2004
The Jackets had 12 picks, and five made it to the NHL, but their most notable player from this draft was Grant Clitsome taken #271 with their final pick in the draft. The Jackets had five picks in the top 100. They combined for 74GP in the NHL. Alexandre Picard, taken #8 overall, played 67 of those games amassing the only 2pts (both assists) registered by those players.
Stars: 2002
The Stars did get Trevor Daley who had a fantastic career in this draft. However, the Stars had FIVE of the first 50 picks in this draft. Other than Daley, taken #43, only Tobias Stephan suited up for any games in the NHL... with 11GP. The Stars seven other picks outside the top 50 in this class recorded 0GP.
Red Wings: 2001
Granted the Red Wings seem to never have a first round pick, but they never seem to miss in the first round when they do. In 2001 the Red Wings had 7 total picks. They amassed 77GP total. However, Dmitry Bykov, taken #258 played 71 of those 77GP. Drew MacIntyre played the other six.
Oilers: 2012
Honestly, the Oilers have drafted pretty well all things considered. However, they had the #1 pick in 2012 and Yakupov was a miss. I think most Oiler fans wish they had a mulligan on this one. As such, 2012 is my pick here.
Panthers: 2005
With the #20 pick the Panthers would take Kenndal McArdle. Who? Exactly. The eight players picked in this draft would amass 43GP in the NHL. Mr. McArdle would have 42 of those tallying 1G 2A in his career. Still available? Tuukka Rask (#21), T.J. Oshie (#24), Andrew Cogliano (#25), Matt Niskanen (#28).
Kings: 2004
One thing I noticed is that the Kings have had some damn good drafts before and after 2004. In 2004, not so much. The Kings had nine picks in this draft, including the #11 overall. The class amassed 86GP in the NHL. Scott Parse would play 73 of those games, but he was the King's fifth pick in this draft at #174. Lauri Tukonen was taken at #11 and had 5GP.
Wild: 2012
The wild would take Matt Dumba #7 overall in this draft. Not a dumb pick. However, their six other picks in this draft have combined for 9GP in the NHL, all by Christoph Bertschy taken #158. The Wild missed in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds in this draft.
Canadiens: 2008
There were 0GP by this entire draft class. Granted the Canadiens did not have a first round pick, but this still missed in rounds 2-5 and 7. Still available to them: Michael Stone (#69), Zack Smith (#79), Adam Henrique (#82), Braden Holtby (#93).
Predators: 2006
This may have been the only standout "bad draft" the Preds have had. Blake Geoffrion was taken #56 and played 55 games. That was all but one of the total games played by this diminutive draft class.
Devils: 2001
The Devils had six picks in the top 100 in this draft. Those picks played 21 NHL games. Tuomas Pihlman (Pick #48) played 15, Brandon Nolan (Pick #72) played 6. They combined for 3pts in their careers. The Devils took Adrian Foster #28 in this draft. Still on the board? David Steckel (#30), Derek Roy (#32), Mike Cammalleri (#49).
Islanders: 2005
This one is a tossup. Although 2001 and 2007 were awful drafts for the Islanders, the Isles didn't have a pick until #62 in 2007, and pick #101 in 2001. In 2005 they had #15 and #46. They would combine for 55GP 1G 10A 11P. Their five other picks that year, 1GP. That first two rounds in the '05 draft were pretty deep. They missed in both.
Rangers: 2015
There are a lot of bad drafts to pick from. I went with this one because only Aleksi Saarela has played in the NHL from this class. He has 9GP... for the Panthers.
Senators: 2002
Jakub Klepis was the Sens pick at #16. Totaling 66GP, 4G 10A 14PTS. This class totaled 72GP in the NHL with Alexei Kaigorodov playing the other six. Still on the board for the Sens were: Alexander Steen (#24), Cam Ward (#25), Trevor Daley (#43).
Flyers: 2004
I really want to say 1999 when the Flyers took Maxime Ouellet #22 overall. However, it's outside the parameters. In 2004 the Flyers had 11 picks. David Laliberte and Triston Grant would both have 11GP by the end of their careers. They would account for 22 of the 23GP by this draft class.
Penguins: 2008
This draft class, although small and all late pick, has 1GP in the NHL. Alexander Pechurskiy would come in as the backup for a game in 2010 stopping 12 of 13 shots he faced.
Sharks: 2002
The sharks would take Kris Newbury and Tim Conboy who would both see 50+ games in the NHL. However, the Sharks wouldn't see a game played by their other six picks in the draft. That would include picks #27, #52, and #86. Those could have been Trevor Daley, Duncan Keith, and Valtteri Filppula.
Blues: 2002
The Blues would take D.J. King in this draft at #190. That was their sixth selection in this draft. Given the names that were still on the board at picks #48, #62, and #89, they missed just as badly as the Sharks.
Lightning: 2006
There were some really questionable drafts early on for the Lightning. However, in 2006 they decided to take goaltender Riku Helenius at #15. He would appear in one game in his career. Still on the board? Claude Giroux (#22), Semyon Varlamov (#23), Nick Foligno (#28).
Maple Leafs: 2011
In 2011 the Leafs had picks #22 and #25. Two first round picks they turned into Tyler Biggs (0GP) and Stuart Percy (11GP 0G 3A). Suffice it to say that if you strike out twice in the first round... you had a bad day. This is the same draft that Brandon Saad went #43 and Nikita Kucherov went #58.
Canucks: 2007
With six total picks, including picks #25 and #33, this draft class amassed 0GP in the NHL. The Canucks would take Patrick White #25 and Taylor Ellington #33. Still on the board were David Perron (#26), P.K. Subban (#43), Wayne Simmonds (#61). Even Justin Braun (GO UMass!) would have been an improvement. He went pick #201 and has 669GP at the time of writing this.
Golden Knights: 2019
Not like there is much to choose from with this team. However, Peyton Krebs at #17 seems like a mistake. Especially with Connor McMichael, John Beecher, Nolan Foote, and Ville Heinola all on the board still.
Capitals 2007
Karl Alzner had a solid NHL career, but three other picks in the top 100 totaled 0GP. In fact, the Caps missed on nine picks out of their total of ten. At pick #34 the Caps could have had any of the following: P.K. Subban, Wayne Simmonds, or Alexander Killorn. Instead? Josh Godfrey.
Jets: 2016
There's not much to pick from here, nor is there much to complain about in the Jets' draft history. The 2016 draft was the year they took Patrik Laine #2 overall. However, that pick was a given. They also had the #18 pick in this draft and so far Logan Stanley hasn't made it to the NHL yet. Nor has anyone else taken in this class.
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23 juin 2020 à 16 h 11
Sujet:
I dont believe it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McGruff</b></div><div>6/7 for 1 trades are so 80's....
Lindros was that kinda trade back in the day and how many cups did he walk away with now??
Correct! The same as Eichel...</div></div>
I’m not going to argue that it’s a lot to give up. I’m not saying the Bruins should make the deal. I’m just saying that’s what the market will be. As far as the 6 for 1 deals not happening anymore... Karlsson and O’Reilly didn’t happen?
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22 juin 2020 à 22 h 52
Sujet:
I dont believe it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McGruff</b></div><div>Any GM who thinks like that ^ ^ ^ is certifiable!
NHLers gone from Pres Cup team = Carlo, DeBrusk, Krejci (collateral damage from CAP) and I'd argue Stud gets playoff time in 2019-20 if there is one...etc etc....
tis' RUBBISH...</div></div>
Call it rubbish all you want. That's what the market would bring for Eichel. Just because they are Bruins doesn't make them any more valuable. You're asking to bring in a player with the talent of David Pastrnak who plays center and is locked up for six years. What would it take for the Bruins to trade Pasta? You'd expect at least as much in return.
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22 juin 2020 à 22 h 34
Sujet:
I dont believe it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ngikas</b></div><div>Idk how Krejci, one of Debrusk/Carlo, Vaak, stud and 2 1sts is considered an overpay. Eichel is an elite talent. Vaak and stud are likely going to be good nhl players. Don’t think either will evolve into anything above that. The 2 1sts are lotto picks with every draft being a toss up. Krejci is a great player but you’re replacing him with eichel for a fraction of the price more contract wise. Giving up Debrusk or Carlo would be a tough pill to swallow, think giving up Carlo would be more detrimental to the line up. But you have to realize it’s a trade for a top 5 center. It isn’t going to be cheap. Bruins don’t really give up anything of significant value unless you place Debrusk and Carlo there but again at best theyre 2nd line/2nd pair type players. I just don’t agree with your valuing of a blockbuster for eichel, I do agree it doesn’t really make sense to make the trade though.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bananahockey</b></div><div>That would screw the whole prospect pool of the bruins</div></div>
This trade for Eichel isn't even close. You're going to likely have to give up: Beecher, Carlo, Studnicka, Debrusk, 2 1st's. That seems like a lot, I'm sure for Bruins fans. but that's what the market would yield right now for Eichel. You're also going to have to find a trading partner for Krejci to free up cap space. Buffalo isn't looking for a B- 34-yo 2C in an Eichel deal. Honestly though, I still don't think this would get them Eichel.
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22 juin 2020 à 15 h 53
Sujet:
Jack comes home version II
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bostonbruins</b></div><div>Exactly what I mean, the Flyers gave up a lot more for Lindros than the Bruins are giving up in this trade, yet as you could see, until I posted the comparison, most thought it was too much.
That is what I was trying to say, if you want Eichel it will cost a ton.
A couple of good roster players, a couple of good prospects (grade "A") and at least a couple of first round picks.
Anything less is a gross underpayment.
I was going to make it 3 first round picks but the Bruins did not have one in 2020.</div></div>
I think three would be too much. However, I don’t think you’re really giving away the future with this trade. There will be a lot of cap space opening up on this team. You’re going to be able to protect the core through the Seattle expansion, and there are still 6 quality d-men on this team.
The trade is also just as complicated for Buffalo. The longer they hold on to him they run the risk of that market value depreciating. I think Eichel will stay in Buffalo until at least the last two years of his contract.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juin 2020 à 15 h 23
Sujet:
Jack comes home version II
I think the picks and players aren’t bad. However, you need to find a way to move Krejci for this to be more realistic. I think you’re more likely to see Boston have to give something up to get better first round picks because with where Boston will end up picking in the draft Buffalo is pretty much getting two seconds and two thirds. They’re going to expect at the very least one very high draft pick in this deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 juin 2020 à 13 h 47
Sujet:
Are we a contender now 2-UFA and trades
Even if trades go through this team still isn’t contending.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juin 2020 à 10 h 46
Sujet:
Trading Eichel and Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMarch</b></div><div>I can't believe people think they wouldn't trade Fox for Eichel. That may be the closest reality trade I've seen for Eichel. Value is right, And I think NYR would jump all over that deal, #1Cs are WAY more valuable than 1B defensemen (Fox isn't in the league with Giordano, Hedman, Josi, Werenski, Jones, Pietro, etc).
Fox is very good, but he's not in the Makar/Hughes league (he's probably also below Heiskanen, McAvoy as well). Both of them are doing this with below-average goaltending behind them (Hughes on ice sv % is .855, Makar is .888, Fox is .903 which is league average). Hughes and Makar are also doing this with 3:00+ more minutes a game, while Fox is averaging around 18:30. Fox is almost a year olderand too (which absolutely factors in physically and mentally). Fox would have a low-end 1B ceiling, while Hughes and Makar have 1A ceilings.
Eichel was easily a top 5 C in the league. This season, he's the #6C using Hockey Reference's Point Share system, and #12OA in OPS. And he's outscoring a bunch of top names per game (Matthews, Ovi, Crosby, Marner, Aho, Stone, etc).
I don't think the NYR make that trade because you don't trade legends, and Henrik is a legend in NY. But, a mid 1st round pick, and low 1st round pick, and a 1B dman for a #1C is peanuts.</div></div>
TMarch you had me convinced until you said you don't trade legends. Gretzky, Messier, Orr, Roy, Jagr, Esposito, Dionne, Coffey, Karlsson, Francis, Chelios... I mean I could keep the list going. Safe to say that legends get traded. It's all about the return. Lundqvist has nothing left to give you. Move on and get a return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juin 2020 à 0 h 10
Sujet:
Trading Eichel and Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>Both are to their respective teams, and unless we got an offer for maker then, hes priceless</div></div>
I just remember watching Makar taking Fox to school in the Frozen Four. Granted UMass was a much better team than Harvard.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juin 2020 à 0 h 4
Sujet:
Trading Eichel and Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>Decline, fox is priceless</div></div>
I'd take Makar over fox, so I wouldn't say he's "Priceless."
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 juin 2020 à 23 h 14
Sujet:
Sabre Rattling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>they already have reinhart. You didn't sign him</div></div>
Signing Reinhart in place of Hoffman and assuming that you can move Okposo's contract (Trade to Seattle for them to take him in draft): Cap Space for 21-22 would be $14,970,000 needing to sign Dahlin, Jokiharju, and Asplund. That would be a very comfortable place for them to be.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 juin 2020 à 22 h 39
Sujet:
Sabre Rattling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>Any specific method? (Trade, UFA, OS)</div></div>
No specific method. I just want to make sure they 1) Have cap space enough for their upcoming RFAs 2) Are bringing in guys who are going to help change the culture of losing. I don't think OS is the way to go because I want to replenish their draft capital.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 juin 2020 à 22 h 32
Sujet:
Sabre Rattling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>they already have reinhart. You didn't sign him</div></div>
I felt they could trade his rights for a small haul. Wasn't going to go through trading away all the RFA rights. However, he could slot in there.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 juin 2020 à 22 h 13
Sujet:
Highest Paid Team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CrazyFlamesFan</b></div><div>And I actually don't think they would win the cup, when you have so many great players there's gonna be chemistry issues cuz of ice time, wanting too show off, doing too much, etc, this probably wouldn't work all together.</div></div>
Fortunately there are a lot of veterans and six guys who have won the cup on the team. They may be able to hold things together with their personalities. Matthews, Bob, and Seguin are the concerns in my book.
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