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Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 16 h 35
Sujet: Markstrom Hayes and trading down
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>I disagree about that range but that's just my amateur opinion of course. I think the top 3-10 are interchangeable only. After that it starts to be a little more grey.</div></div>

I see it as roughly

Tier I: Celebrini

Tier II: Levshunov, Demidov, Catton, Eiserman

Tier III: Buium, Connelly, Dickinson, Silayev, Lindstrom, Yakemchuk, Iginla, Helenius, Greentree, Brandsegg-Nygard, Boisvert, Parekh, Chernyshov, Jiricek

(A few of those guys bounce around between II and III)

So I would agree with <a href="/users/SJS2212" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@SJS2212</a> in that the 6-15 range is a little similar and unless one of the top few fall, it could make some sense for NJD to move back and add an asset or two.

In the scenario above, they turned #10 pick into 3C, 4LW and still drafted Brandsegg Nygard (a guy that could have selected at #10). Most of our core is already built, thanks to years of high draft picks, so we mainly just have to address specific holes in lineup.

(Devils brass may have other plans…including trading the pick outright).
Forum: Armchair-GM14 avr. à 7 h 32
Sujet: UFA vets to complete top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jay27</b></div><div>Idk, Stammer is great but I just don’t think it’s a great idea to go out and spend 10.5 a year for the next 3 years on a guy who’s 34 years old. Also I know +\~ is an archaic stat and all but has anyone else noticed that he is a ~21 on a team that has a +25 goal differential?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jay27</b></div><div>If MTL goes out and spends nearly 15mill on veteran UFAs this year then what happens next year when they need to sign Guhle and Slafkovsky to long term contracts?</div></div>

It a fair point, however if you look at the longterm outlook tab, you can see that the following year, the habs will have 30M$ in cap space to sign them.

I expect Slaf to get something like Caufield’s deal and that they will bridge Guhle.

As for the reason to pick up Stamkos - I think <a href="/users/F50marco" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@F50marco</a> sums it up quite well!

You want that vet presence in the locker room… and so far our vets seem to play on the bottom 6.

Let’s splurge on the old rockstar - we can afford it.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 avr. à 10 h 52
Sujet: UFA vets to complete top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Savard, Armia, Dvorak, Evans + cap increase should be enough. Not to mention that Anderson is likely gone one way or another. They'd be fine.

Im all for adding Stamkos at whatever number he wants as long as its short term. Toffoli will get more than that though and frankly I'd be ok with just Stamkos. Newhook deserves the other top 6 mins off the hop here IMO. Dvorak-Armia-Roy on 3rd line. Evans Gally and whoever on 4th.</div></div>

Idk, Stammer is great but I just don’t think it’s a great idea to go out and spend 10.5 a year for the next 3 years on a guy who’s 34 years old. Also I know +\~ is an archaic stat and all but has anyone else noticed that he is a ~21 on a team that has a +25 goal differential?
Forum: Armchair-GM28 mars à 14 h 44
Sujet: PLD Redux
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Frankly who cares about production, he's been on a number of teams now and left each one with a sour taste in their mouths. I want no part of PLD and its officially buyer beware with him. Not worth the risk. I was totally on board bringing him in this past offseason but seeing how he's been in LAK, Im glad they didn't get him.

Anderson can be bought out if we're at that point with him. Not only are the Habs paying top dollar for PLD here, they're also taking on massive risk. there's no need. They're probably drafting a center this year, getting Dach back next year and are still a lottery team/non playoff team. The right play here is to be patient and if anything add through free agency where the only really costs are overpaying cap, which the Habs have oodles of so its not a huge burden.</div></div>

I don't disagree with you on UFA, but every time I suggest bringing in players like Monahan, Toffoli, Marchessault, Reinhart, or even trading before the TDL for Hertl, I get tons of pushback from the same crowd complaining that those players will become an albatross before their contract is up.

Essentially the fans around here only value young players, and only if you can trade for them by offering a bunch of Bs and Cs for an A+ and then severely underpay the player.

Like Harris, Armia, and WPG's 1st for Boldy is ever gonna freaking happen?! You need to give something to get something. You always need to manage your risk, but sometimes risks pay off. Dach &amp; Newhook deals were risks. They are working out (ish). I think PLD could work out too. I don't believe that he's a Prima Donna, if I did I would not trade for him.

I think you are wrong about them being a bottom feeder team next year. They will make moves this offseason and push for the playoffs.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 mars à 13 h 9
Sujet: Players Id want
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Got to think the Habs would accept this just on the premise of good value and the team already having a surplus of young dmen.



I sort of agree on the value standpoint but also think you may be judging him a bit harshly too. Its not every day that a team has like 4-5 under 23 yo NHL ready dmen all competing for the last couple spots on a team. He's showed he's more than capable at the NHL but ppl have to be reminded that he is also still young too. He's susceptible to brain farts but most 22 yo dmen are. I think we judge him harsher simply based on the fact we have a plethora of other options. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be an everyday dman on another team with less depth. Habs have an abnormal amount of young depth at this level that they can afford to not be as patient.</div></div>

Fully agree i think he could still develop into a decent dman, but I think philly could pry him from mtl for a little cheaper, then they wouldve been able to last year..But 100% he is a victim of the deep prospect pool the habs have on d.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 févr. à 18 h 24
Sujet: Perfecting the roster and maintaining cap rollover
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>What's the issue with Toffoli? Seems to be the odd man out in a lot of these.</div></div>

Earlier (pre McLeod exile) it was because there were 10 guys who all deserved top 9 spots.

I wanted lines of:
Hughes-Haula-Mercer
Nico-Palat-Bratt
McLeod-Meier-Holtz
Lazar-Smith-Bastian

Now it’s still similar in that I’d like to give toffolis role to holtz, but also in that we now have other needs.

A) this may not be our year and we may sell
B) due to injuries we need to preserve cap space to prevent our rookie bonuses from rolling over
C) our most pressing need is a puck moving LD and PK guy, followed by a goalie, followed by improvements to our depth/4th line/PKing forwards (took a big hit losing McLeod who had been elite on both ends)

So moving toffoli, who is a touch slow for our system imo, in order to get A) Cap space B) Holtz into the top 6 and C) assets to use to fill more crucial needs is a prudent solution instead of losing him for nothing in the offseason assuming he doesn’t resign.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 févr. à 14 h 27
Sujet: Calm Down
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>I know its wrong, probably, but I just can't bring myself to value a Pens forward not named Crosby or Malkin fairly. All I see are Dupuis's and Kunitz's. They could play an entire season without those guys in the lineup and I'd still be like "Ah they're just a product of Sid/Geno...."

Just for that bias alone, I think Reinhart is better and more valuable.

And yes I totally understand that if Cole Caufield had the stats Guentzel has had, he'd be considered a star player without any question. Like I said, I know its a bias.</div></div>

This has been a thing that has been disproved time and time again. Through Jake's tenure as a Penguin, he's had many long stretches where Sid and/or Geno have been injured and still maintained his production.

I'm not saying this in an argumentative way, but if the idea that you can place anyone next to Sid or Geno and turn them into a 30-40 goal scorer EVERY year, then they'd be spending $2M a year on every top-six winger. It takes a certain skill set and certain abilities to be able to play with Sid and Geno.

And FWIW, Dupuis and Kunitz never put up Jake's numbers, and they had Sid in his prime years.
Forum: Armchair-GM1 févr. à 17 h 38
Sujet: Sean Monahan Trade Comps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Something to keep in kind that isn't shown in these trade comps is how many playoff teams had cap space and what % of their cap they had to deal with per year. A major driving force for Monahan's value is his potential cap hit being basically AHL replacement level. So many teams have so little cap space to move this year as opposed to some of the comps years.

This may be one of the toughest years for playoff teams to go get players at the TDL. Its not so bad if you have a cap dump you can send the other way but many teams have done tidy business and have neither cap space to get a 3-4-5M players nor a cap dump they could send back of equal value to offset the player coming in.

So Monahan at 950K (50% retained) is basically the only option some of these teams have if that's the type of player they want. if this TDL was transposed over another years TDL, the value probably would drop. The main driving factor for Monahan's value is probably this particular seasons circumstances. Not so much that he soooooo good.</div></div>

It is one of the reasons I included the ROR deal because it came at a premium because the salary was 25% of original. Jarnkrok also included for that reason too ($2m retained down to $1m). I guess I leave it up to readers to determine what fits and what doesn’t.

The environmental landscape (league wide cap space, availability of other centers, etc) is really hard to factor into these.

Separately, I had thought about doing one of these using just comps from a single year. For instance, my favorite year was probably 2007 (which was nuts). I’d like to make a list of all the guys that were traded that year…and the most similar player today. (Who are the modern day versions of Peter Forsberg, Chris Pronger, Keith Tkachuk, Bill Guerin, Yanic Perreault, etc)…and what it would look like today if we had that many stars moving around.
Forum: Discussion24 janv. à 16 h 40
Sujet: Supermod town hall meeting - AGM section
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>It was something implemented early in the scandal to avoid rampant speculation. It's not something we need to maintain, and I leave that to the collective.

I'm still not 100% comfortable with pointing fingers until it's confirmed (press conference is on Feb 5th) and nor am I really interested in a bunch of comments in AGMs or discussion threads along the lines of "X team declines because [player] is a sex offender". Twitter itself has been a cesspool since Dube, Hart, and now the two NJD skaters took their leave of absence from their respective clubs.

I present this only as an honest question and not as an accusation, but is that what we should be fostering here? I personally don't value engagement and clicks over much more focused discussions and the only real discussion of importance the hockey community as a whole should be having surrounding the 2018 WJC team is "what can we do as the hockey community to make sure this doesn't happen again?". Vitriol and anger over the five names in speculation isn't doing anything effective and if anything just opens up more avenues for flaming/trolling.</div></div>

My opinion would be to send warnings first and if they continue to post about it, then upgrade to an infraction.