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Armchair-GM
1 déc. 2020 à 15 h 17
Sujet:
NHL21 Trade Offer Opinions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>accept the nj and chicago ones.</div></div>
Yea I took that Blackwood trade all day lol, solid tendy to backup Andy and replace him in a few, yea I’ve been on the fence about shipping Kerfoot for Dach, obv in real life I’d love to see the Leafs pick him up. Considering I’m gonna be playing Kerfoot/Dach on the wing (was hesitating b/c Kerfoot had 60% FO’s) think I’m gonna pull the trigger on the deal, save a couple bucks too haha.
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Armchair-GM
1 déc. 2020 à 15 h 13
Sujet:
NHL21 Trade Offer Opinions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HadesOfSoCal</b></div><div>Ducks one looks good lol</div></div>
Lol strictly an AHL trade, worked with him in the O so I like to pick him up in the game if I can get him for cheap which I usually do lol.
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Armchair-GM
1 déc. 2020 à 15 h 10
Sujet:
NHL21 Trade Offer Opinions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>slapshot30003</b></div><div>Please explain how Stan Bowman would not get fired for making the Dach trade?</div></div>
Because it’s a video game, I mean unless the owners of Chicago are concerned with what I’m doing in my save I think he’s save 😝
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Armchair-GM
1 déc. 2020 à 14 h 43
Sujet:
NHL21 Trade Offer Opinions
Keep in mind, some of these trade obviously wouldn’t happen in real life or even make sense lol, this is strictly an NHL21 GM Mode, thought it would be interesting to get a few opinions from like minded people.
Some of the trade are purely just because I liked a player or I worked with ( or had the chance to talk with) some of them in the OHL.
The last three trades are the ones being considered. I put the others in so you’d have an idea of how the team is shaping up.
Love having Dach on my ARZ save with my cousin so thought to get younger and get a guy that will put up as many points as Kerfoot I thought I’d swap them, obviously with Dachy being so young I’d have to overpay. Either that or I go for Domi and still pay a lot?
I play on going after Chychrun either in the off-season or later this year. Thinking of Maybe putting Liljegren and another guy they want, what do you think would be a fair trade to get Chyc’y
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Trade Machine Proposals
3 août 2020 à 23 h 4
Sujet:
LeafsSabres Blockbuster once Leafs Lose
This not only wouldn't work or make sense but it's just a wee bit silly. Look at the 1's and 0's of the players sure they're comparable in total points but Eichel just hit 37 goal's a career-high, Matthews got that in his rookie season and in this shortened season almost hit 50. We need scorers and Matthews is the guy along with a few others, we also already have a guy that puts up 50 assists (Marner) so we have zero need for Eichel, and aside for stats, I don't see the Leafs trading away their franchise centre who's got an excellent relationship with our core group, meanwhile Jack's been rumoured a few times for being a bit of a locker room annoyance.
I like McCabe for sure, I'm actually a big fan of his, heck I even just picked him up in my Maple Leafs Career on NHL20 to pair with Dermott lol but the Leafs aren't going to swap out a 23-year-old who's just coming into his own with consistently positive +/- for a 26-year-old (who turns 27 in 3 months) who has only had one positive season. I just don't see it happening in this aspect either. Holl for Montour would be a trade I could see happening by itself with a few other pieces.
Overall as I mentioned before, this trade just doesn't make sense and would never happen.
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Trade Machine Proposals
29 juill. 2020 à 16 h 31
Sujet:
Kane to the Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div><a href="/users/Doucet3" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Doucet3</a>
This is why we hide from leafs fans. Look at this garbage.
(it says Nashville on his profile but cm'on, no one is buying thatl)</div></div>
Loll couple things to look at here before we just hate on Leafers :P
As you pointed out he is a NSH fan his profile says it, there's really no reason to hide he's a Leafs fan aside from people just hating on him because he follows the Leafs. Another is he posted this because it happened in his NHL20 game (his first comment states that) so I mean can't really fault him for posting it out of curiosity. Another point is, looking at his profile shows he was born in 2003, so he's like 16-17? he's still young and a lot of EA Sports has influenced his life.
Overall though who cares if he is a Leafs fan or not? this sites about debating trades, talking hockey and socializing with like-minded people who want to banter about a sport they love I don't know why you are so fixated on hating Leafs fans or 'hiding' from them? Maybe keep in mind that some of the posters are probably younger, even if their profile doesn't show it? I'm assuming, like me, you're over 25 and have been watching for a few decades, instead of trying to put down or belittle someone maybe try and use some of your knowledge and breakdown a trade for him and explain why this wouldn't be such a good trade?
Me personally if I was the Leafs I wouldn't accept this trade at all, it simply just doesn't make sense for the Leafs, unless Dubas changes his ideology and wants to sell part of the farm to make the Cup push then a deal to go after Kane could be made.
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Trade Machine Proposals
28 juill. 2020 à 15 h 46
Sujet:
Ceci to NJD Rielly to FLA amp Ekblad to TOR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens2020</b></div><div>They get the best palyer in the trade in Ekblad and the best draft pick?? I dont see how it doesnt work for them</div></div>
That's all you had to say? do you really think trying to call someone a homer is going to be productive to some intuitive discussion lol?
Now if you want to debate trade talk and try and change each other minds, I'm game for that. Regarding your comment, there is a difference between Winning/Losing a trade and a trade making sense. To give you an example, I'm an NHL team and I have three elite 100 pt/Season Centres making $10 Mill on my team, now if I go and make a trade for a 3rd round pick for another centre that scores 100 points/Season at $10 Mill but will only play 5 mins/game on my 4th line and that year and only puts up 25 points does that make sense? No not at all it's counterproductive to my cap, team, and draft picks, but did I win the trade? Sure... I just acquired a 100pt/Season guy for only a 3rd rounder that's a steal. Even though it's a dramatization do you see the concept I'm getting at?
Now to apply it to this trade, the Leafs are looking for two things in a Dman, Solid Defense and Secondary Scoring (at the very least Solid Defense). They need someone to help add to the core they have already, they have the forward core to compete, now they need the defence to back it up, guys like Sandin, Liljegren, Lindgren, Hollwell and even Rosen are a ways away from competing consistently in the NHL, Dermott? he's quality but not a Top 2 defenseman yet. If you look at Cup-winning teams they have two Top 2 Defensemen (think of Chicago with Seabrook and Keith), now for the leafs to get to that position we need two of the those type of guys, this trade here we give up one for one ... it's a lateral trade with a nice bonus for the future ... but we need that Top 2 Defenseman now while we have this incredible team. So if this trade was to go through then the Leafs would lose the overall trade, they'd win on content but it wouldn't be what they needed as they already have a Top 2 guy, we need another one to be able to get in a solid cup run.
Which is why you'll see NHL commentators says, "we won't know who won this trade for a few years" most of the time because at face value it's easy to call but the overall aspect of things is where the team really wins or loses. Small edit, the point of view that Ekblad is by default the better player is openly debatable, while he's 2 years younger, Reilly has better offensive production and is a Top 2 defenseman, comparable even to Ekblad in that regard, so I wouldn't say he's 'better', ntm that 2020 1st round pick of Arizona's they don't have it, and their 2021 is conditional so if it were to resort to 2022 by then with the team ARZ has could be a 25th overall pick and not worth nearly as much as a Top 10 pick.
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Trade Machine Proposals
28 juill. 2020 à 15 h 28
Sujet:
TOR gets their 1 D-man
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>Ok, well, I guess I'll respond.
First I didn't make the trade. Second I didn't accept the trade. I said it's not as bad as people think and it's at least close. Here's why.
Toronto has too many big contracts. One has to go. These are facts. Tavares has a no move. Matthews isn't going and Nylander's money isn't big enough. (it really isn't, trust me) It's not that Marner sucks or Marner is overpaid or any of that. Marner kinda has to go because it just ends up that way.
So assume that's the plan. (if you wanna argue that point that's fine, it's a separate argument but I'm going on my assumption Marner has to go)
Now what do you look for back? You need to save money and you need spread out the contracts especially over defensemen. You want prospects and picks because they have value but don't cost you cap. (this is why I wouldn't do this trade because it doesn't have the little pieces it needs)
Yes Doughty is on a scoring decline. Hugely. 100% agree. but that's not a problem for Tor. Scoring is not what's missing. D that actually play D is what's missing. Doughty for 5.5 million playing 24 min against top lines is 1000% Tor's biggest issue being solved and at a steal price. (contract wise not Marner wise)
So as I said, it's not as bad as you think. Doesn't mean I'd do it. So relax.</div></div>
Was that so hard? instead of coming at me and trying to ... idk put down the new guy? just be a d*ck? you could have simply laid out you position on it, so we can ... yaknw go back 'n forth and debate it like a forum is meant to be, unless this is another one of those forums where the environment is just completely toxic and unless you have X,000 Posts your POV is disregarded and irrelevant.
Now that we've got the 'formalities' out of the way lol
Fair, I can agree that we have too many big contracts (the fact our big 3 takes up $30+ mill doesn't help). The point of Nylander's cap hit not being enough I just can't get behind though, the reason is because he's slotted at $7 Million (Marner at $11 Million, $4 Mill diff) considering what we do with the situation there is a real possibility we could get a quality D-man and not lose Marner.
If the Leafs don't resign Ceci and Barrie (cap reasons, unless we keep him or we do a sign and trade) you have $7.2 Million, now you can either take that as it is, enter the market with Nylander on the block and the $7.2 Million and have a total of $14 Million of free cash to play with. OR we go a different route, we sign Barrie to a $3-5 Million contract and then decide to either keep him or move him with/without Nylander. Either way you look at it moving Nylander (plus a few other pieces) to acquire a top defenseman and save cap is a realistic move, we don't 'have to' get rid of Marner.
Back to the other points now, Saving money, Agree. Spreading contracts out, Agree. Prospects + Picks, Agree. Heck, even the leafs needing a Dman that actually plays Defense vs focusing on scoring I even agree but to let go of Marner isn't the way to do it, now while the OP's trade isn't ideal and I'd rather search for another defenseman to trade for and for a better deal it's something that I could see being done, swap Nylander for Marner in the OP's trade and that just becomes unrealistic to me, at the very least a gross overpayment for a declining Dman that won't be on the Leafs as a number 1-3 in 2-4 years potentially; which is the point I was making by laying out the statistics.
At the end of it though my thoughts are, the moves the Leafs need to make and their intricacies are going to be a minefield for Dubas in order to achieve lowering his Cap Hit, Acquiring a Top 2 Defenseman, and holding on to as much talent as he can. Now in saying that I know, cap-wise were in a precarious position which makes the other tasks even more difficult to attain, but trading away one of the top wingers on the team and even in the NHL for a Dman that meets our needs of today at the expense of tomorrow's future isn't how we do it. If we go the route of moving Nylander and a few prospects instead (still leveraging tomorrow's future but not losing that elite winger) then that I can get behind as that satisfies a few of our needs. Like I agreed with before simply put to effectively (Nylander) to make it happen I can get behind that.
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Trade Machine Proposals
28 juill. 2020 à 14 h 41
Sujet:
Ceci to NJD Rielly to FLA amp Ekblad to TOR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens2020</b></div><div>You might be the biggest homer on this site now if you think the Leafs are getting ripped off:tearsofjoy</div></div>
Re-read my comment show me where it says the Leafs are getting ripped off?? I don't think they'd be getting ripped off that's not the unrealistic part about it, if you cant see why this trade seriously wouldn't work for the Leafs then you might be the homer in this equation :tearsofjoy :tearsofjoy
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Trade Machine Proposals
28 juill. 2020 à 14 h 33
Sujet:
TOR gets their 1 D-man
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>New Leafs fan just showed up. Everyone pretend you're not here. Someone turn off the lights.</div></div>
Oh looks someone wants to pick on the new guy because he's a Leafs fan and he pointed out the statistical facts... come on guys lets pretend like we hate him and maybe he won't tear apart my terrible trade XD
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Trade Machine Proposals
28 juill. 2020 à 14 h 30
Sujet:
Ceci to NJD Rielly to FLA amp Ekblad to TOR
So the Leafs give up their:
26 yr old No. 1 defenseman (who put up 72 Points las year)
A decent prospect in SDA
A depth D-man
FOR
A 24 yr old D-man (who only cracked 40 points for the first time ever last yr)
A 1st in 2020 (which they don't own so let's say 2021... which is conditional if they are in the top 3 they lose to the Devils in the Hall trade)
And a few magic beans? both are after the 4th round
Nah my man I don't see this being realistic, first look, sure it looks reasonable, once you look into the characteristics of it, it quickly becomes just not plausible and an unreasonable deal for the Leafs.
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Trade Machine Proposals
28 juill. 2020 à 14 h 14
Sujet:
TOR gets their 1 D-man
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelkena</b></div><div>Marner and a 1st for Doughty, Iafallo and 4 million in cap space isn't as bad as you think. Iafallo opens up Johnsson to move so it could actually be Doughty, Iafallo, whatever johnsson gets back and up to7 million in space for Marner, Johnsson and a 1st. Trust me, that deal is at least close despite the decline of Drew.</div></div>
LOL a franchise winger that will consistently put up 60+ Points (just put up 97 Points last yr) is only 23 and locked up til 2025, a depth winger who puts up 20 G's a and 40 Pts a season, and a 1st Round pick in 2022 most likely because 2021 Is conditional to CAR and LAK most likely won't wait 3 years to cash in on a 1st rounder FOR a declining 30-year-old defenseman who's locked in till 2027 at $11 Million who puts up 45 points a season with single-digit goals????
Am I missing something here?? Even with LAK holding 50% salary for the duration why would the Leafs want to buy-out or have a 37 yr old $5.5 Million D-man who, at that point, probably won't be able to crack the line-up while Marner is still tearing up the league and producing 80 Point seasons....
This 'Short Term Fix' would be disastrous for the Leafs Medium-Long Term and would be an absolutely horrible trade, this would be a Peter Chiarelli or John Ferguson Jr. trade
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Trade Machine Proposals
28 juill. 2020 à 13 h 58
Sujet:
Freddie Andersen to San Jose
So the Leafs get a 1st (Gamble) and a bunch of "What-If's" and throws of the dice for their 30 year old Starting GK? Sorry but this is just way to far fetched and doesn't make sense at all. If Buffalo gives up a 1st to Toronto and SJ gives them something of value for that 1st then you're starting to go in the right direction but yea... this is an NHL20 trade.
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Trade Machine Proposals
28 juill. 2020 à 13 h 52
Sujet:
Kappanen Dermott Bracco for Roy
Uhhh no... The leafs aren't going to lose Dermott (and Kappy on top of that) just to save cap, he's pegged as Barrie's replacement essentially because it'll be Muzzy vs Tj for who gets a contract, and Ceci will be replaced by TL or Sandin.
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