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Forum: Trade Machine Proposals17 juin 2022 à 22 h 11
Sujet: Waddaya think
Okay, the fundamental flaw with this deal is that if the player picked at 8OA (I think Detroit might like Nazar personally), become a possible 1st line center, more likely a 2C, then you have to get that back in value.

Instead, you're getting an aging top 4 D who might have two or three good years left, and a late first, which gets you a top 9 forward or a bottom 4 defenseman. Detroit loses value here and for what? Will getting Petry make them a contender? No.

And you can't just say "well okay, Petry isn't worth 8OA, but if we pile on more assets, we can even its value" - that's not how trades work.

Let's use minerals as an example. You have Diamond, you have Gold, you have Silver, and you have Copper.

You don't trade diamond for gold even if you pile on gold, and you don't trade gold for silver, even if you pile on more silver and copper. One diamond is worth like five or six golds, and that trade only happens if you have too many diamonds OR if you're forced to trade off your asset and that's the best you can get for it. Well no team is FORCED to move draft picks, so you're stuck..

So if Detroit is moving 8OA, then Montreal needs to give them a young prospect who's destined for top 6 status... a player of Suzuki's or Caufield's caliber, because Frank Nazar may well achieve their status as a player.
Forum: NHL Signings23 juill. 2021 à 21 h 27
Sujet: Chicago Blackhawks signed Seth Jones (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jco5ta5</b></div><div>THEN they won 3 Stanley Cups in 6 years. THEN they went to 5 WCF in 7 years. Calm down. Seth Freakin Jones in a great player and a HUGE upgrade to our D corp. Yes the contract sucks but Hawks have tons of money and as you know, anybody can be traded for any reason. It's fine.</div></div>

They won the cups 6 years ago. That was great. But let's not act like Stan Bowman has made good moves since then. As for Seth Jones, he is most certainly not a great player. He is barely an average player. For the last 2 years, he has been below average. He was a bit above average offensively in the 18-19 and 19-20 seasons. But before that, all his offense came on the powerplay. Even then, he was just a bit above average. His defense this year was atrocious with a -3.4 below replacement. Before this year, he has been hovering around replacement. His WAR this year was -1, and he has been teetering just above 0 for the last 2 years.

In conclusion, Seth Jones is an average, to below-average, second pair defenseman. No where near $9.5 mil/8 years. If the Hawks were willing to shell out that much on a defenseman, Hamilton is available. Martinez is available. Even Cale Makar and Rasmus Dahlin are technically available and worth an oversheet. If they wanted to trade that much, they could get the rights to Quinn Hughes, or Nate Schmidt (same value, much cheaper), Brendan Dillon, etc.

What I am getting at is that if they were ready to spend that much on a player, there are dozens of better options that wouldn't make the future even worse.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 janv. 2021 à 23 h 49
Forum: NHL Trades23 janv. 2021 à 12 h 34
Sujet: (CBJ/WPG) - Dubois and 3rd for Laine, Roslovic
This trade is hard to evaluate because of how obvious these two teams as trade partners seemed, and how hard it would be for either team to win the deal.

I think Dubois gets overrated quite a bit, he's far closer to being around Kadri level then he is an elite #1, which isn't bad, but he seems to get a lot of brownie points for being big and a center. He seems to generate offense pretty well, but not elite, and he's not great defensively. He draws penalties, mostly through being a bit of a sneaky dirty player, and the fact that retaliation gets called far more consistently then initial infractions, and he's a good center, I just don't know that he ever becomes the player some people think he already is.

Laine is a pure weapon, doesn't seem capable of creating a lot of chances himself, but he finishes at a rate that is just bonkers, and can singlehandedly transform a PP. He has a reputation as being bad defensively, which I find funny because he and Dubois are very similar in that regard, but Dubois seems to be thought of as a two-way center while Laine is considered a liability. Reality is they are both just relatively young players who are weaker than average defensively.

Overall, I think Jarmo wins the deal because of the fact that he managed to get a reasonable prospect back in the deal, and got Winnipeg to hold back salary making it so the Jackets can continue to accrue cap space. With how bad Dubois was playing and him almost forcing his way out, I think Jarmo literally did as well as you could hope. That being said, I think given the apparent "perception" about Laine, Chevy managed to get a young center, which is what he wanted, so he probably did as well as he could have given the market conditions, and it helps that he got the position they felt they needed the most help with (aside from D).

I think Columbus wins the deal overall, but it's hard to really fault Winnipeg here.