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Forum: Vegas Golden Knights3 juill. 2019 à 23 h 4
Sujet: Will Vegas Miss Playoffs for First Time in 2019/20??
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div>First i'll say this: I looked on CF and noticed that Schmidt and Holden were listed as RDs. I wasn't sure about Holden but was confused because i had thought Schmidt was a left shot. But i just assumed i had been wrong and he was a RHD. Either way, at least Vegas is better on the left side than Ottawa. Yes, Ottawa has Brannstrom, but what has he really done yet? He's only played 2 games. Idk if he's expected to play yet or not. They have Chabot and other than that their D isn't very good for the NHL. Sure, Vegas doesn't even have a Chabot, but if their top 4 is McNabb, Schmidt, Theodore, and Merrill, that's not good enough, but it's better than Chabot, Ceci, Jaros, and DeMelo.

I never said Vegas is going to win the cup in 2020. If they make the playoffs, you never know. Anything can happen in the playoffs. I think they make it and lose in round 1. I think you're underrating their D though. Holden is not "beyond horrible" IMO. He's an okay #6 in the NHL. Isn't Jimmy Schuldt expected to play in the NHL? If he plays, it'll be interesting to see how he does. Don't forget that they could re-sign Engelland. Cap space will be a problem though. I'd expect them to really try to move that Clarkson contract. It'll cost them picks, though, especially because he won't be playing. If you're Calgary and you're moving James Neal, at least the new team is getting a player back. Same with guys like Loui Eriksson, Nikita Zaitsev, etc. I believe Toronto will have to pay to move Zaitsev's contract. However, it won't be a big price to move him, because another team knows they'll be getting a player. Clarkson can't even play with his injury. So, it'll cost a lot (pretty good picks/prospects), but i think Clarkson needs to be moved as long as it's not a ridiculous price to move him.

Vegas does have really good forwards. Karlsson, Marchessault, Smith, Stone, Pacioretty, Stastny, Eakin, etc. They have a really good forward group. Fleury continues to put up good numbers, so I think he's a good enough goalie.

I agree with you that defence is a problem, and you made a good point about teams like CGY and TBL, but i didn't say i think Vegas wins the cup. I said I think they make the playoffs. Even though they don't have a Hedman or Giordano. Defence is definitely a problem there, but team defence helped them a lot in the 2018 playoffs, and they have good forwards, goaltending, and coaching. And i still think their D is better than Ottawa's. The Miller trade, though, definitely makes their defence work. I wouldn't be shocked if they bring back Engelland. Moving Clarkson's contract would definitely help. And they might ge Gusev on forward, too. But it all depends on cap space.

Also, did you say that goalie is the least important position? That's a joke, right? Or am i misunderstanding what you're saying? You need good goaltending to win a cup. The worst goaltending we've seen from a cup winning goaltender recently that i can think of is Quick in 2014. And look at his numbers. I'm not going to look up all the goalie stats for cup winning goaltenders, i'm just saying ... and okay, maybe Quick was better than i said he was in the 2014 playoffs. I'm just saying that the goalie plays all 60 minutes and is maybe the most important position (maybe centre). I feel like i'm probably misunderstanding what you're saying.

And yes, I think Fleury counts as a good goaltender.

Edit: I accidentally said the Miller trade makes their defence work. I meant it makes their defence worse*.</div></div>

Hehe its going to cost at least 4.5M to 5M to replace Miller with a player who is lesser value... Chabot is a left shot D-man making Senators vastly better down left side compared to Vegas... Nobody I know is knocking on door wanting defensive liability in #27 or their other over paid D-man... Its like Chicago when they had money invested in Duncan Keith/Seabrock but they were actually producing... Sea was a right shot D-man putting up numbers in league with Drew Doughty... Then their contracts became issues, Vegas is already at that point without the cups... Senators picked up Zaitsev who is 4.5M cap hit not even in league with Miller as a player... Its like having Mathei Schneider on defense wondering why team is getting shelled so badly...

Gusev as I mentioned not long ago will probably be traded is suddenly in rumors/news that Vegas has to trade him :)... Instead of playing him in playoffs when up 3-1 in series vs. Sharks they screwed him over only to allow him to become RFA w/ arbitration rights... So I hear he wants 2M or 4M, or 4M over 2 years... Fleury don't count as a good goalie, watch this year, will see him injured w/ GAA around 3 or 4 depending if he plays 30 or more games... Murray has a cap hit of 3.75M w/ 2 cups, having 7M locked into a dead end in net isn't going to work long or short term... DAnsk is their franchise goalie of future or Lagace ;)? Subban isn't anything more than a backup... VEgas has 17M+ locked up into 5 D-men that essentially all suck or are worthless except for maybe McNabb... Engellend is on pace for 6 point season after having 12 last year down about 50% from his rookie season of having like 5 goals w/ 20+ points... His career high in goals is 6 if wonder... VEgas will be lucky to get 20-30 goals from all their D-men looking at them on paper... WhiteCloud was like a -11 in the playoffs after having an inflated + rating in AHL regular season...

As bad as the Sharks are down the left side I would rather have Dillon or Vlasic over any of the trash D-men left on Vegas... Mcnabb would be only player I'd consider but he isn't going to score 10-20 goals w/ 50 or 60 points like a Miller can on right side... I can't wait to see Vegas shelled so badly their coach will get fired then GM:GM... Remember Vegas alienated entire league just about so nobody is looking to make it easy for them to make any trades or deals. Look at their first year they had 3 1st round picks, nothing to show for it... Even if think Glass is great, 5 players ahead of him are vastly better... One guy won Calder taken ahead of him, two of them are all stars... So essentially everybody taken ahead of Glass is better than him. IF Vegas got an earlier 1st pick to start as franchise they would be in better shape not having to do the bad Tatar deal or having some D-man worth playing if they didn't trade him or botch that up too...

Quick should have been traded after that second cup... He was playing w/ a broken wrist but was decent in the SCF... Kings would have won that cup a lot easier if they went with Jones... Bernier could have won the cup for them in 2013 but Quick made sure they didn't... Quick winning at 5.8M was a result of the team that carried him more than anything he did... So paying a guy 5 or 6M is the most you can expect to still win a cup... IN general its better to have a goalie on the minimal salary or making a few million if want to win a cup. You got Murray who was on minimal contract, Binnington, especially in the post lockout/salary cap era... Nobody in net with a cap hit 7M or higher is going to win the cup, odds are against it heavily. Goalies tend to get hot/lucky, I would treat them more like punters or kickers in NFL... Anytime spend big money on one it rarely works out, Cowboys had signed that kicker if recall only to have it bomb... Even drafting kicker in 1st round like Raiders never worked out for them really in Janikowski. I'd rather sign a guy from Europe like Tim Thomas or Backstrom compared to paying a goalie... Kings had Bishop they could have traded Quick then for something... Another problem is rarely get any value for a goalie even if they are worth it in a trade...
Forum: NHL3 juill. 2019 à 22 h 41
Sujet: 2019-2020 Predictions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div>Imagine Edmonton vs. Calgary in the playoffs though. Edmonton is a bit of a bold prediction but you never know.</div></div>

I never even factored the battle of alberta in playoffs implications or cared :). I don't really like to watch Flames or enjoy Oilers w/ those ugly prison orange uniforms over the blue they won everything wearing ;). I just figured Flames tend to make playoffs, then miss them the following season... Kinda like they are good one year then suck the next... Figured they might manage to stay in top 3 in weak Pacific division. Sharks or Ducks I think won Division every year until Knights joined league, figure Sharks are only California team who can win anything so :)... I'm thinking Sharks kept enough while adding a bit to get in... Oilers finally got some cap space after dumping off a lot of trash contracts or players... So they probably can still make a minor move or do something at deadline to help them get in... Canucks tend to start out well then fade so figured would be more of same for them... Ducks could surprise everybody but I just don't think they got enough even if people like Gibson in net or whatever his name. Coyotes should be right on fringes, Darcy I think played well for them last year after supposed starter got hurt so... Kings should be around 76 points, Knights will be like Sharks back in the Link Gaetz days this year :).

I don't know Central is tough as hell to pick right now... I don't really pay nearly as much attention to that division or really care for most part... It was only mistake I made in playoffs too having Jets over Blues then Stars over Jets only to lose to Sharks ;)...

1st Stars 115 points
2nd Avalanche 100 points
3rd Predators 95 points
4th Blackhawks 90 points
5th Blues 88 points
6th Wild 85 points
7th Jets 80 points

Those are all like give/take 10 points... So could be in 70's at worse... I figure Blues will dip down a bit having teams play them hard while their style don't work if refs call penalties... HOt goalie taking them far lots of factors should have them fade a bit... I could see Chicago get in top 3, I think Jets will finish last, drop like a stone be rough year... Wild will be more like boom or bust, maybe they in running then fade down stretch or lots depends on who makes what trade when...
Forum: NHL Trades3 juill. 2019 à 22 h 33
Sujet: (TOR/COL) - Kadri, Rosén 2020 3rd for Kerfoot, Barrie 2020 6th
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div>Forgot about Enroth. Or Enrooth as Don Cherry once called him :p ... Enrooth, Hegman, Bieska, etc. Lol, Don Cherry is pretty funny with the names ... about Enroth, I don't think he was good enough to be an NHL starter. Hasn't been in the NHL for a few years now. He was putting up decent numbers with Buffalo and then he just kinda fell off. If i remember correctly, i didn't expect him to be in the league for much longer when he was with Toronto. Idk what happened to him though. He was never a great starter. At one point i would've said he's a really good backup, but then he kinda fell off. Not enough goalie spots, only 62. Lehner worked out for a year, and now he's gone to Chicago, which i'm still surprised by. I hope Lehner has a good year in Chicago. I've become a big fan of him even though he's left the Islanders. Varlamov might be a good fit with us. Hard to know. I thought Grubauer might be going to the Islanders before he went to Colorado, but it didn't work out. Isles must not have wanted to take Orpik and his contract. Orpik was a very key player for the Capitals but at the time he was making 5.5M, which was way too much. I was hoping we'd get Grubauer, and then we got Lehner, so I'm kinda glad we didn't get Grubauer, but at the same time, we'd probably still have him now, and i'd prefer Grubauer over Varlamov. But we'll see how Varlamov does with the Isles.

How did you give up on Nashville after the disallowed goal? It was still tied 0-0 I believe, and it was game 1. Sure, they lost the series, but way too early to give up on a team. And at that point, Rinne was still playing really well. Duchene makes them better, but their defence isn't as good as it was. I don't know what i think of their defence, because they no longer have that really good top 4, but their top 3 is pretty good. Who's their #4 though? Fabbro maybe? It will be interesting to see how he plays. I've heard he's pretty good, and i know he was a 1st round pick in 2016, but is he still seen as a top prospect? Last i heard he was. What do you think of Eeli Tolvanen? Is he expected to play right away? Is he still considered a really top prospect? I know he was, but is he still supposed to be that good?

Rookies winning awards like the Norris and the Vezina i wouldn't expect to happen. It could happen sometime, but i think it's very unlikely. It just always takes a bit longer than 1 year to be a winner of those awards. Even to be a finalist. Dahlin, for example, had a very, very good rookie year. But he wasn't at Norris trophy level IMO. Same with Heiskanen. I wasn't surprised that Binnington wasn't up for the Vezina. He was very, very good, but he didn't play half the season. He didn't play too much less than Lehner and Bishop though. Each played 46 games. That could be the reason Vasilevskiy won it (53 games), but you never get a goalie playing all 82 games ... it just doesn't happen. I kinda thought Bishop would win it, and maybe he should have, but Vasilevskiy isn't a bad pick at all. What i want to know is what happened to his team in the playoffs lol.

What do you mean the "rigged lottery"? The NHL posts a video of the draft lottery and why would it be fake? You're kidding, right? It's real and it's completely random. They don't have it all planned before. They don't just choose the winners. We all know that. And I'm pretty sure you're kidding. Of course, though, there are rumours because of Taylor Hall maybe ... whichever team he plays for always ends up with the 1st overall pick ... unfortunately, that means his team doesn't make the playoffs. But he won a Hart trophy and that year the Devils wouldn't have made the playoffs without him. I don't see how they would have made it. What I find crazy is how many people act like Adam Larsson isn't very good just because he got traded for Taylor Hall. I'd much rather have Hall than Larsson, but that doesn't mean Larsson's bad. Just like how people act like Alexandre Daigle was a bad player. He was actually a pretty good player even in the NHL, and would have been considered much better if he hadn't gone 1st overall. He's not the biggest draft bust of all time. I wouldn't even say it was Patrik Stefan. i'd say Nail Yakupov. Daigle never turned out to be as good as he was expected to be, but he was a pretty good player. Yakupov just wasn't able to stay in the NHL, didn't do what he was expected to do, like Daigle, but Daigle was the better player IMO. The same thing happens with players who have a bad contract. They're considered bad players when it's really just their contract. If Shattenkirk was making 2.5M with the Rangers, people would be saying he's better than they say he is at 6.65M ... I kind of expected we'd buy out a d-man, but that didn't happen. Curious what we're going to do with our cap.

I'm confused about those draft rankings. Were those your top 13? If so, where is Hughes? Robertson, Season, Foote, Beecher, and Vlasic went way lower than that, whether you mean Nick Robertson or Matthew Robertson. I find it so weird when people say "this guy is too small". Cole Caufield is the steal of the draft IMO. He's a potential 40 goal scorer. Maybe even 50 in the NHL. I don't see him getting 50 but it's not impossible. I must be wrong about what you're saying, because i'm confused what these rankings are. Do you have more guys between these players? These weren't actually your top 13, were they? And also, does Hurley mean Harley? If so, do you mean Thomas Harley or Harley Thomas? :p

Just imagine Rangers vs. Devils in the playoffs though. That would be awesome. Great rivalry already, but especially with Hughes vs. Kakko. What do you think about Jake Gardiner? I wouldn't give him even 5 years X 6M. Even that's a risk that i don't think is worth taking. If you give him 7X7, the best thing that could happen is he plays up to his contract all 7 years and is an average NHL contract. The worst thing that could happen is he struggles with whatever team he signs with and you're stuck with a HORRIBLE contract for 6 more years that you can't move without giving up more than you'll want to to move him out. I really feel like that would be considered a bad contract at some point.</div></div>

The question is why does the NHL rig the results calling it a lottery... NHL has the interest of the league over any individual team or their fans in mind... So they want a certain franchise to avoid going bankrupt like the Penguins they give them Crosby in the rigged redistribution lottery... Devils/Rangers are in the NY/Metro area lacking people to market the teams... Hughes is a lot easier to market over the foreign player they took 1st overall... Henrik is on his way out of NY, so they gotta have Kakko along w/ other high profile players to market... Devils drafting 2/3 years 1st overall is all need to know to remove any doubt its rigged... Oilers drafted what 1st overall like 3-4 years in a row or something insane :)? You live in NY, loo up Numbers/Win4 results, certain numbers will come out two days in a row, twice in a week, 3 times in a year while others have never come out at all... Every single lottery machine is pretty much the same, probably from same company or so...

The balls are weighted/aligned in a way where certain numbers are more likely to come out despite the given odds... Every 2 months NY lottery changes their ball alignment causing sequences to happen more often or less... For example triple digit numbers like 777, 222 will come out a few times a year in general... Certain numbers like 460 are pretty common, so its pretty easy to assign 3 digit numbers to teams knowing how likely they are to be drawn... So you can rig something live right in front of people pretty easily... NHL is a rigged league who can decide who picks where without being fair so they do. If NFL had a rigged lottery system they wouldn't have a league for long. If NHL wants to stop rigging the system they could do the drawing a year prior so everybody knows who picks where depending on finish... That would avoid so called tanking, even picking 1-16 balls each having a logo of team for order would be better...

My order as the first 3 option likely for Kings to have before rigged lottery to decide who picked where pretending its fair and square... WAs Kakko, Byram, and Dach... I figured they would get one of the final two guys... I never thought the russian who Canucks took would be there at 10 or 5 really... Turcotte is rated same as Vilardi was when Kings took him by scouting group wikipedia used... Also guy ranked 2nd in that draft won Calder for Canucks just like this russian they took who were both ranked 2nd for European... Then my next tier were the top D-men in general after the stud... Broberg, Seider, Robertson, Hurley who I kinda wish Vegas took over Krebs... Then past that were guys who I thought might still be their for 22nd or 33rd pick Kings had... Cozens, Laviole, Leasor, Foote, Beecher, and Vlasic... I messed up a few of the spellings on the L guys I think...

Jhonas is only 5'11 he is too small to make it as NHL starter... You got many goalies 6'6ish... For most part 6-6'3 or better is minimal height for a goalie to even get a shot to be starter... I don't enjoy watching Eastern league they claim is hockey compared to western... So even if I watch the East games they tend to be pretty brutal for me like going to dentist kinda ;). I only enjoy certain games in West, but a few teams play really crippling boring styles like Blues or Wild :)... Sharks are fun at times since they are a pond hockey team, Stars, teams like that I'm usually more interested in watching... EVen Jets can be good but I don't like them anymore...

I knew Nashville was done, they were going to make sure Penguins won the cup... Besides taking away a goal on a bogus off side call tends to kill momentum hurt team... In general it only takes removing 1 goal to screw a team... Sharks got shafted w/ refs not calling delay of game on Blues or others but they cry about a handpass in OT that shouldn't have ever got that far if refs called Blues for their delay of game flipping puck out. NHL has no credibility, if I let them in my house, they would rob me blind. If I was person making decisions on challenges or drawing the lottery then maybe I'd believe it... Look up the numbers that came out over last few months... Will notice at least 1 or 2 that has come out 3 or more times this year already... If anything the current rigged lottery system has kept certain teams from ever winning cup or becoming good enough/getting star player while others keep churning them over only to fail anyways...
Forum: NHL Signings3 juill. 2019 à 19 h 48
Forum: NHL Trades3 juill. 2019 à 19 h 35
Sujet: (TOR/COL) - Kadri, Rosén 2020 3rd for Kerfoot, Barrie 2020 6th
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div>Who are you talking about for the Kings? Who used to play for Buffalo? Is it Cal Petersen? I just looked him up and he never played for Buffalo, but he was drafted by them. Just never played there. If it's someone else then i have no idea who you're talking about. About Rinne, yes, goalies (and skaters) usually get worse as they get older, but look at a guy like Martin Brodeur in 2012. He was older than Rinne is now and he helped them get to the Stanley Cup Final. Obviously one goalie's team is going to lose in the final. Quick was having a really good playoff and he didn't just suddenly fall off. I'm not comparing Rinne to Brodeur, but i'm just saying Rinne COULD get back to where he was in the 2017 playoffs, and it wouldn't shock me. Some people think he's done and he might surprise those people. If they make it into the playoffs, i'd be really curious to see how he does. That "something better" in net could be Rinne. He's at least been very good in the regular season, so that won't stop them from making the playoffs. This offseason they improved their forwards but made their defence worse. I thought they had a really good top 4 on defence and i'm not sure if trading Subban to sign Duchene was a great idea. It was a risk that worked though. At least they got Duchene. That was a huge risk as they weren't even sure if they'd get Duchene or not. Only reason i'm not sure about it is because of that top 4. It was huge in bringing them to the final a few years ago, and all those guys are still very good. Now their defence isn't as good. Not too bad as they still have Josi, Ekholm, and Ellis. Just saying ... Duchene makes them a lot better. He can be their 1st line centre. My opinion on him kind of changed a bit in the playoffs. He was really good in the playoffs, too, and he definitely adds a lot to the Predators' forward group ... will be interesting to see what happens with Turris. I think they'd have to pay a team to take his contract. I doubt any team would go up to them and say, "will you give us Turris and we give you a pick for him?" I just don't see that happening. The Colorado management overall has done a pretty good job. Lots of people, including me, didn't like what Sakic was doing, waiting out the Duchene thing as an example. Then what did he get for him? The 4th overall pick+ ... Ottawa probably made the right choice to keep the 2018 pick as it was a better draft, but idk enough about Byram. He's probably a #1 d-man, but do you see him being a Norris finalist ever? Could he potentially do that? Who would you rather have? Tkachuk or Byram? And about Colorado's management, these last few moves have confused me a bit. Burakovsky, Soderberg, and now this one. I still don't get this deal for Colorado, but the others also kind of confused me. Overall, though, they're pretty well managed. Funny that they signed Donskoi, because didn't he score the winning goal in game 7 for the Sharks against the Avalanche this year? Maybe not, but i thought he did ... Dennis Wideman, one more thing about him: I knew you were kidding about Colorado signing him, but you don't actually think the linesman "got in his way", do you? Maybe kind of, but you're not saying it was the linesman's fault what happened, are you? Wideman tried to do it, and just made a stupid decision, but it wasn't okay to do that anyway, obviously. I think you were kidding, right?

Grubauer was traded to Colorado, not signed (was signed as an RFA but he wasn't a UFA) ... I think that happened at the 2018 draft. That was when Washington moved Orpik's contract and then Orpik was bought out and signed with Washington again. I thought the Isles could've traded for him, but Washington must have really wanted to move Orpik in the deal. Orpik was actually a really good player, he just wasn't worth his 5.5M contract or whatever it was. Just retired this offseason. I think it's funny that he only scored 3 playoff goals and 2 of them were OT winners ... one of those OT winners even won them a series, unfortunately against the Islanders. So, I don't like what he did that time, but still an interesting stat. I believe he only scored 3 playoff goals ... i think the other was actually in the SCF (2018) but i'm not sure. Colorado did well with the Grubauer trade it looks like. He's a good enough starter IMO.

It'll be really hard for any team in the Metropolitan division to get in. So many good teams in the East. If Tampa Bay, Toronto, Boston, and Florida get in, that least 4 out of 8 Metropolitan division teams, and only 3 who can get in if Montreal also makes it. Maybe one of Tampa Bay, Boston, Toronto, and Florida misses. Then that could change things. But it seems like Tampa Bay, Boston, Toronto, Florida, Washington, Pittsburgh, Islanders, Carolina, Rangers, New Jersey, and Philadelphia all SHOULD make it. That's 11 teams, though, so somebody's going to fall out. And then you have Montreal who could get in. I know we see surprises sometimes, but i don't see Ottawa or Detroit making it in. Those teams are just not good enough. Zaitsev is Ottawa's 2nd best defenseman, which says a lot about their defence. Who's their best forward? Idk, maybe Tkachuk, and then their 2nd best might be Ryan. Tkachuk has been very good for them, but i still just can't see them making the playoffs. Detroit just doesn't have the type of team who makes the playoffs. Look at their roster, and you'll see it's not good enough. It's not always about the best team on paper, but I just can't see them making it either. You never know though.

Kakko might be better than Hughes right away. Rangers-Devils could become a big rivalry. I mean, they already kind of are, but especially with Hughes vs. Kakko, and also they're probably both going to be good soon, even if not in 2019-20. And there's a very good chance they both make the playoffs in 2020. I could totally see it happening. I'll make some full predictions in the next week or so probably, still waiting for a few guys to sign. I think at least ONE of the main UFAs still available will probably sign in the next week. It's just gotta happen, right? No guarantees though. Gardiner, Johansson, Dzingel, and Ferland are still there, as well as some others. I really think someone will overpay Gardiner, which will be a really risky move and not a risk worth taking IMO. I would never give him 7X7, just too risky and you'll probably eventually call it a bad contract, but nobody will want to take it unless you give up a crazy amount of value to move him and his contract because of the term of the deal. Just not a good idea IMO.</div></div>

Jhonas Enroth who is listed at like 5'11, had a .922 save percentage going 7-5 in 16 games for Kings w/ 2.17 GAA for a pretty bad team :)... He played for STars before Kings then a little bit for Toronto... Grubaur I was speculating about Islanders signing or obtaining him since around time he signed that team friendly deal that kept him w/ Capitals longer than most expected he would be... Lehner worked out pretty well for a single season so its hard to get that upset. Odd Islanders end up w/ the guy who became the backup of Grub :). I gave up on Nashville when they took away the goal Subban scored claiming it was off sides :). Unless they get something in net I don't see them winning w/ the goalies they have even if the defense is pretty good... No rookie will ever win the Norris in my view unless it was something really blatant... In general for NHL have to have a few good seasons or a really great one prior to ever winning anything... Like Calder didn't go to goalie who wins Stanley Cup but a player on team who didn't even make playoffs ;)? Vezina should have went to Jets goalie last year, even this year I think Bishop or Lehner were vastly more deserving then guy who gets tired/burned out on PResident trophy team...

I wanted Kakko a lot more than HUghes my chart for draft prior to rigged lottery looking at it from Kings point of view mostly/Western Conference filter avoiding guys under 6 feet in general... Mostly focused on Defense I had...
Kakko
Byram
Dach as my top tier for their 5th overall... Then if people dropped or whatever I had...
Broberg
Seider
Robertson
Hurley for my next level of Defense mostly... then for later pick or 2nd round I had...
Cozens
Lavoie
Leason
Foote
Beecher
Vlasic

I'm hoping Devils move Kakko to center, Hughes to me is too small he will struggle or fade if he don't get hurt... Playing in East helps if he was in West it would be a lot harder for somebody his size with all that hype to payout :). I see some teams with cap space seem to have no interest in trying to win now... So some of those free agents are going to have to settle for money a lot less than Hayes or Skinner got ;).
Forum: NHL3 juill. 2019 à 6 h 36
Sujet: Summarize Your Team's Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DoctorBreakfast</b></div><div>Turcotte was arguably the 3rd best player in the draft, and getting him at 5th overall is great value. You really think that Seider, Broberg, Cozens, and Podkolzin would've been better options? Seider and Broberg were both taken after Turcotte, and both were considered pretty big reaches for their respective draft positions. Sounds like you just have a size bias.

And shame on Vegas for "hoping some injured guy will recover". Wtf kind of take is that? Krebs at 17th overall is another good value pick, especially since he was consider a top 15 talent, and even top 10 by some outlets.</div></div>

I wanted Kakko, Dach, or Bowen... I was hoping Turcotte would get taken 3rd overall or sometime before Kings drafted... I don't see a scenario where Turcotte signs w/ the Kings out of college then plays for them... I think he would be a fool to be playing college hockey only to sign with a franchise that isn't going anywhere. Maybe he will play well in the East, least if they took the russian they would control his rights not having to sign him within a small window of time. Kings people said got a great value grabbing Vilardi whose pick I liked... WEll years later, I'm still waiting for the expensive Italian sports car to get out of the shop ;). Best case scenario Kings would have to wait 2-3 years for Turcotte to play for them if he ever signs at all... For a team that hired some awful coach, having 2nd worst record in NHL, it should be looking to get a player impacting them now not 3-5 years later... Krebs taken by an organization that hasn't had a single draft pick play for them at a position they have more talent compared to nothing on defense... Knights have nobody who is a right shot d-man that is worth a nickel. Their left shot D-men are pretty much all over paid or nothing I see past a #4... They will probably trade Krebs, I'm not sold on him recovering from his injury.

Guy who drafted Seider has a lot better track record as GM compared to Blake who has a solid F... Broberg/Cozens I could see them playing for Kings right now or next year not hoping they sign/play in next 3-5 years... Having 2 first round draft picks failing to get anybody who is an impact player right now is an F in my book especially when had a top 5 pick which should have been 2nd overall... Kings missed out on the 3 real deal players most people agreed on w/ Hughes/Kakko/Bowen... Its one thing if they had a pick rigged for them like Devils getting 1st overall 2/3 years... Rangers having 2nd pick... TWo teams they whipped in Stanley Cup Finals... Then Blackhawks get gifted 3rd overall, even Avalanche who slid still got the stud player on Defense Kings needed... One of their picks is censored it was so bad, they just let a 2nd round pick go without even a tender.

Vegas loses Miller for nothing, who will cost 4.5M to 5M to replace... Haula gets dumped who nearly had 30 goals his last full season... Other players are moved/lost, yet getting Krebs is supposed to get me excited because he might be able to walk/skate like he used to :)? If VEgas found a way to keep their best D-man in Miller, their only legit right shot... Then maybe I could be happy with a draft from a team who has yet to have 1 player drafted even play for them in NHL. Kings 2nd round pick was expected to go top 10 by some people, LA has a real bad history in 1st round landing gems like Hickey and Berg. If by some miracle Turcotte pans out/plays for Kings scoring 30 goals... I'll be happy, I'm not expecting anything better than I got with Vilardi who I was excited about at time :). Maybe if Vegas got a Spencer Knight I would feel difference since they got nothing in net now or in future I see winning a cup :).
Forum: NHL3 juill. 2019 à 6 h 23
Sujet: Luongo’s Retirement & Cap Recapture implications
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rebecca</b></div><div>I sorta keep track of each team’s cap situation and saw the spike in Vancouver’s cap hit after the Luongo retirement.

While Vancouver was previously on the hook for $0.8M in retained salary costs (15% of Luongo’s full Cap Hit), that <strong>cap hit increased $2.23M</strong> up to to $3.03M in total.

Conversely Florida, previously paying 85% of Luongo’s salary ($4.53M Cap Hit) comes out of the retirement with a huge savings, accruing only ~$1.09M in Cap Recapture, for a <strong>cap hit decrease of $3.44M</strong>!

I suppose this has to do with the number of years that Luongo played under this contract for each team (and how much they “saved” vis-a-vis the cap as a result of his Uber-long contract, yes? That the contract was involved in a retained salary arrangement was irrelevant.

Vancouver had to know this was coming whenever Luongo hung up the skates; but it’s still gotta suck and it throws a wrench in their plans. In turn, it also opens up a big chunk of cap space for the Panthers who also traded their other NHL goalie and are going all-in on Bobrovsky.

It’s likely this cap Recapture business led directly to the Reimer-Darling trade (to save paying a bonus and, after the buyout to clear more cap space for Bob), and also to the subsequent buyout of Ryan Spooner (as VAN tries to save money/cap space). VAN saves almost as much on the Spooner buyout ($2.07M) as they lose on the Luongo retirement ($2.23M).

Fascinating stuff. But definitely feels like VAN got a final little “**** you” from Luongo on his way out the door.</div></div>

It wont make feel much better to read this probably... Kings ended up on hook for contracts they didn't give out in Jeff Carter/Mike Richards... Mike Richards they tried to terminate his contract crying about him having cocaine or dealing drugs not to be confused w/ the other crook they had dating the ESPN Eren Andrews or whatever her name is... Stoll I think that was, so Kings got shafted hardcore on him almost as bad as Phaneuf's contract hehe ;). Its like people go on LTIR instead of retire, get hired by league or even traded... Yet if somebody just says I'm retired then teams get shafted with all this recapture or other stuff... I remember Toronto fudged things to bury Lupul's money, all these teams circumvent the cap... Islanders got burned pretty bad with Yashin, Dipietro, part of problem is lockout didn't let everybody have 1-2 buyouts without penalty... You had to do them right there, so teams couldn't delay or decide later on depending on how a player did.

I don't even like the buyout system... TEams seem to use it wrongly like Kings probably should have waited another year on PHaneuf. I guess they wanted Senators to take more money in penalty or so. I wish could decide to take entire cap hit in single season instead of spreading it out for example... Maybe change to like 1/3rd buyout or only 1/3rd counts instead of 2/3 or however... Its a bit complicated since depending when do buyouts or how contract is structured matters. Kings gave a stupid contract to Greene 2.5M over 4 years for example, instead of actually doing a structure to allow a buyout easier in last year or two. There is too much dead money from prior GMs for me to like how the cap works... Yet its the same teams like Toronto Maple Leafs always getting around the cap doing one dubious thing after another ;).
Forum: NHL Trades3 juill. 2019 à 6 h 11
Sujet: (TOR/COL) - Kadri, Rosén 2020 3rd for Kerfoot, Barrie 2020 6th
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div>I'd say Barrie&gt;Kadri&gt;Kerfoot right now, but it will be interesting to see what Kerfoot can do in the future. He's still pretty young, i believe. I remember people telling me i was stupid when i said Schultz just needed a new team. Everyone was saying he wasn't worth anything and that he would be absolutely terrible anywhere he ended up. I said he needed a new team and look how that turned out. I also said Aho wouldn't be offer sheeted THE SAME DAY he got offer sheeted. So, i've made some wrong predictions too :) ... I think the problem was that Colorado may or may not have been able to keep Barrie, but i still don't like this deal for them because thinks about it. Kadri is better than Kerfoot now, but there's not a big difference, and Kerfoot might not have had his best years yet. Hard to know, but right now it looks like a big win for the Leafs and a loss for the Avalanche. Toronto's defence looks way better from this deal. I will say about the Aho offer sheet that i said in past years that we weren't going to see offer sheets and we didn't. But that's going way off topic lol. Colorado had so many defensemen so maybe that also was something to do with this deal.

Speaking of going off topic, about Rinne, like i said, i think he could bounce back in the playoffs if they make it. Hard to know. I have no stats to show that i'm right, it's just one of those weird feeling things. We all make those predictions that we just feel like will happen for no reason. Whether it's about a player, a team, or whatever. This year in the playoffs I made lots of predictions i just felt like were going to happen, though, and that didn't turn out very well lol. But really, i feel like Rinne could bounce back in the 2020 playoffs. That is, if Nashville is in.

The guy you mentioned for LA who used to play in Buffalo i believe is Cal Petersen. I have no idea what happened to him though. Is he still with LA? I can't remember. I could look it up but don't feel like it lol. I don't remember Rinne having many injuries. I think past injuries are talked about too often. Yes, if a guy has had injuries, that means 2 things. 1) The way he plays the game might get him injured, and 2) it may not mean he's more likely to get injured in the future, but it means if he gets injured, it's worse than it would be normally. You don't want a guy with injury history to get injured. But it's not a luck thing, because past luck doesn't change future luck.

Budaj had that really good year in LA, and then he went to Tampa Bay and then he retired a few years later. Idk what happened to him. That trade changed something, i guess. I know it's been over 2 years, but i'm STILL confused about the Bishop trade to LA. It made no sense. They didn't need a goalie and weren't going to make the playoffs. I don't think they'll trade Quick, even though there's been talk. Obviously the Bishop trade is history though. That's over. Now it's onto what happens with Quick. I think he stays, and so do Kopitar and Doughty. All the others it will be interesting to see what happens with. I saw that Carter may retire if he's traded, but that was before the TDL. Maybe something's changed since then.

I think Lundqvist's stats will be better with a much better defence. I hope Trouba isn't the next Shattenkirk, and i don't think he will be. I just feel like he's a much different player, and he's much younger. Shattenkirk had a pretty good 1st season with NYR, so maybe he bounces back. That contract is pretty bad though. Now that we didn't buy anyone out, we might trade one of Shattenkirk, Staal, and Smith. We'd be paying to move any of those contracts though. Nobody will want them. Hopefully someone is willing to take them, but we'll need to pay the other team. I think the Rangers could have a good year. I don't know if they're a playoff team, but i think we'll be close at least, and maybe we get in. Lundqvist bounces back IMO and i think Panarin plays well. It'll be interesting to see how Fox and Kravtsov do. Kravtsov is going to be playing right away, right? If so, i hope he plays well. Kakko will probably get 50-something points in year 1 IMO.

The East is so much better than it was. Tampa Bay, Boston, and Toronto are all likely to make it. Florida has gotten better. Washington probably gets in. Isles, Canes, and Pens are all potential teams who could fall out, but they're all playoff contenders. I wouldn't say CBJ has no chance yet. At least they got Nyquist. Losing those FAs doesn't help but getting Nyquist makes them not too bad. I think they're a playoff contender. Devils and Rangers are much better, both playoff contenders. And Philly has a very real chance. Back over in the Atlantic, Montreal and Buffalo could potentially get in. That's 14 out of 16 teams with a real decent chance at getting in in the East IMO. That's crazy. I would love to see Devils vs. Rangers in the playoffs. Great rivalry anyway, but also Hughes vs. Kakko. That would be awesome and i'd love to see it. If that does happen, i hope we win that one lol. Rangers fan here.

In the West, you have Nashville, Colorado, Dallas, Winnipeg, and St. Louis all as playoff contenders. Chicago has gotten better, idk if they're there yet but we'll see. Minnesota probably doesn't make it in, even though they got Zucc. They just don't look like a good enough team. Then you have Calgary, San Jose, Vegas, Arizona, and Vancouver all as potential playoff teams in the Pacific. Maybe Edmonton, but idk if they're good enough yet. Maybe if they make more moves before the season that could change something. Anaheim and LA would surprise me if either one gets in. LA has a history of bouncing back after bad years, but i don't see it this time. I'll make my full predictions soon and think about it more. Maybe i'll pick someone like LA or Anaheim or whoever to make the playoffs who i just said has almost no chance, but probably not. I'll think about it more when i make the predictions.

Colorado is a team in the West who i still think should get in. Like i said, scoring after the 1st line could be a problem, but that 1st line is probably the best in the league, or at least one of them. Their D still looks pretty good if Byram plays right away. I expect Makar to be back. Then they have Girard, Johnson, Zadorov, and Cole, like i mentioned. Cole's injury doesn't help them, but they have Connauton. Tons of D depth on that team. Is Francouz going to be their backup? Idk much about him. But Grubauer as a starter is pretty good.

I definitely think this trade makes the Avalanche worse now, but remember Barrie's contract is up after the year. So, maybe it's a good trade. I still think Colorado loses this trade. It doesn't look like a good enough return for Barrie and Kerfoot. It sounds like Rosen isn't expected to be anything more than a 3rd pairing d-man. We'll see how it turns out. Toronto now has Rielly, Barrie, Dermott, and Muzzin as their top 4. Way better than before.</div></div>

No Cal is a current player who they might use as starter or Jack Campbell... IF I remember right he catches funny with his right hand instead of his left... Buffalo player I would know name if I saw, he bounced around a few teams... HE was there within last few years sometime after moving Martin Jones... Rinne just isn't a money goalie, like Fleury in a SCF he isn't going to play well enough to win it... Fleury only had 1 flash in his entire career vs. Detroit I think it was in SCF... Other then that he would show flaws while Penguins had stacked teams... Islanders I remember were shelling him to point they would use backup in playoffs that can't think of his name 100% atm... Murray emerged from Fleury not being able to get the job done... Rask is another guy who always choked for Boston living in Shadow of Tim Thomas... Bishop is a money goalie but he always gets hurt at worst time in a fluke way... Still need enough luck to stay healthy enough, Roloson, Brodeur, maybe they were still decent in 40's or older... Most goalies pretty much flame or bottom out in 30's or mid 30's. Body breaks down, reflexes slow... So if rely on reflexes like the butterfly goalies used to they would die out pretty quick... Pads change, rules change, certain goalies like Lalime suddenly can't stop a puck... Predators I think had their moment in sun, now that has set, unless they get something better in net...

I think Canes will be better while Penguins can probably still stay in top 8 or make moves to get into playoffs... Flyers I could see going bust, I think Kakko will be better than Hughes... Lots depends on if they play him at center or off wing... Rangers got a lot of money on a few players so they might not be done dealing like how they flipped Vesey for like nothing :). I've always hated Kadri so any team getting him I think is making a mistake... I would rather pay Barrie knowing I can always find somebody to take a right shot D-man even if they are making more than I want to pay. Colorado might not want to win a Cup or think they are able to play a longer game to get there... I tend to look at things trying to win now or winning every trade not losing talent for trash. Maybe things pan out for them, many mocked him when traded Duche or some other moves he made... I didn't even think that Russian D-man was going to sign, Turris people were saying is better only to have him end up on same team ;). Grub was starting for Capitals in playoffs then got replaced by Holtby or maybe things work out differently. I had suggested Islanders should have signed him, maybe they would have did better long term even if didn't win Jennings :).
Forum: NHL Trades3 juill. 2019 à 6 h 0
Sujet: (BUF/NYR) - 2021 3rd round pick for Vesey
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brian2016</b></div><div>They get plenty of mediocre, overpaid, has-been UFA's to sign there. Moulson, Okposo, and Pomminville just to name a few. I'd name BUF as my least desirable city to play in. Gotta be on just about every player's no-trade list.</div></div>

I always kinda liked Pominville but I had him back as rookie/early career in keeper league as one of my wingers... Back then he could score 30 goals in a year instead of 30+ over his final 2 for Buffalo :). Okposo had that monster year then walked away much like Tavares and others... Vanek I remember when he was touted as some sorta superstar but Islanders found out even offering him lots of money he wouldn't play for them... Things didn't work out so great for him, Skinny Skinner I don't think would have found anybody to pay him 9M or more... I remember there was some running back on Buffalo Bills who had like 6 kids with 3 different women saying there wasn't anything else to do there ;).

I was never big on Lafontaine but I remember thinking trades Islanders made back then to get Turgeon, Creighton, Hogue, Thomas, maybe a few others would have made difference... I just can't see Buffalo ever winning a Cup... I remember star of season they won like 10 in a row so PHT/NBC kept pushing how great it was they televised so many of their games even though people complain... PUshing it like they would make it in playoffs, how Blues were struggling now that they got Ryan O"Reilley heh. Almost as bad as when Mets traded for like Bobby Bonilla or some crappy player only to have their pitcher in deal win World Series for I think it was Angels of all teams ;). Islanders had Tim Thomas who never played for them even Visnovsky refused... Least they managed to convince him, all teams seem to have issues at certain points... Though Buffalo was where they would trade people they didn't like in all the sports shows growing up like 1st. and Ten :).
Forum: NHL Trades2 juill. 2019 à 23 h 58
Sujet: (TOR/COL) - Kadri, Rosén 2020 3rd for Kerfoot, Barrie 2020 6th
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div>Completely agree about this trade for Colorado. Kerfoot and Kadri aren't that uneven anyway ... then think about the fact that Toronto also gets Barrie. Rosen sounds like he'll be nothing more than a 3rd pairing D most likely. And the difference between the picks isn't very big. Toronto gets a steal of a trade here. The other way to look at it is Barrie&gt;&gt;&gt;Kadri and then Kerfoot is also in the deal. I think Barrie is a better player, the only problem is the expiring contract. That could change things. And Colorado has Byram and Makar now, as well as also Johnson, Girard, and the other guys they already had. I'm still not too sure about depth scoring with Kerfoot now gone. Burakovsky is good but it may have been a bit too high a price for them to get him. Kadri makes their forwards better and right now is an upgrade over Kerfoot, but idk about in the future. They've also traded Soderberg which makes their depth scoring worse. Their defence is looking pretty good though. This trade makes it a bit worse but think about it ... Makar, Byram, Girard, Johnson, Zadorov, and Cole most likely as your top 6. Cole is out for the start of the season, but then you can have Counnauton playing. When Cole comes back Connauton is most likely your 7th D. That is, if Byram plays. This defence is looking pretty good. I also feel like Grubauer is a starter. So, forwards after the 1st line are the problem IMO. We'll see though.

That's a joke about Wideman, right? The linesman didn't get in his way ... okay, well, yes, he kinda did, but he didn't know Wideman was there. Idk if that's the reason he's not in the league. It could be, but we really don't know. I think it had to do with it, but i don't think that was everything. I'd have to say, though, he obviously shoved the linesman. The guy was just standing there and he couldn't see Wideman, then he gets shoved. And it wasn't accidental. He tried to do it, no question. I'm not saying he tried to hurt the linesman or anything. He just wasn't thinking. But i mean "wasn't thinking" as in he made a stupid decision without thinking much about it. He didn't just do it, something told him to do it, and he probably noticed soon after how stupid a decision that was. Really, he was no more than a bottom pairing d-man at the end of his career, so maybe that had nothing to do with teams not signing him. Like i said, i think it was partly that, but that wasn't the only reason. If McDavid did that and was on an expiring contract, he'd probably still get signed. Not that him doing it would make it okay, but teams would think, "well, we're getting a really good player." Wideman was a good player but teams maybe just didn't have a need for him. Hard to know.

LOL i love how people keep talking about Rinne like he's not that good. He's been consistently good every year, and people act like Saros is going to replace him. He's turning 37 soon, so you might be right, but i still think he's a starter. Every year, people seem to say "Saros will replace Rinne as the starter this year". I just think people are underrating Rinne. If the Preds make the playoffs, i could really see him bouncing back from the last few playoffs. Idk if he'll get back to where he was in 2017, but maybe close. Really hard to know. I wouldn't be surprised at all though. It was really fun watching him that year, that's for sure. It's like what people are doing with Lundqvist. Hank's numbers haven't been as good as Rinne's, but they've been pretty good. He had a bit of a down year this past year, but that was playing behind a below average defence for the NHL. Now we have Trouba and Fox. That'll help us out a lot. Unfortunately, we'll still need to move out some cap, but we got Breadman so i'm happy lol. Will be interesting to see what we do for our cap. We still need to sign Trouba and Buchnevich. We're looking a lot better though. We have Panarin, Trouba, Fox, and Kakko. I think i heard Kravtsov is also coming over, right? We're looking like a pretty good team!</div></div>

Well yeah its a joke since Colorado made such a bad trade they might as well sign him to replace Barrie :). I figured Barrie or Kerfoot are the best player in the deal only to both end up with same team making it pretty lopsided... Its hard to find a QB on PP like a Barrie who can put up double digits without being a total liability... I remember people laughed at me when I wanted Kings to trade for Schultz telling me he is 1 sided offensive D-man or laughing about other BS... Kings would trade for SEkera/Phaneuf to get a RD when needed a right shot RD passing on Petry and Schultz... Among others which we saw how well that worked out for them :).

Saros is too small to replace Rinne like those who think Dell can play as starter for Sharks... Kings had some short backup goalie who used to play on Buffalo but can't remember name... I think Avalanche w/ Barrie had a blue line that could win a cup... Now adding Kadri/moving Kerfoot I think it hurts the team chemistry along w/ blue line/talent... Rinne has injury issues too if recall all the goalies that played for them like Hutton among others... He just don't have it when it comes to SCF, he usually chokes badly in playoffs too... Halak among many other goalies like Budaj would struggle or choke in playoffs even if did great in regular season. Byram I expect to play right out of the gate no doubt for Avalanche... Erik Johnson is kinda old so would have rather moved him over Barrier personally :)...

Rangers will make playoffs unless their play in net is totally horrible... How far they get really depends on the luck of draw... Devils I think will be pretty good, remember they were nearly winning division for a long time before recently flubs :). Trouba is the man if he can stay healthy it will pan out better than Shattenkirk signing by far :). Nice to see american in major market where he might get enough attention for some Norris Trophy consideration... I don't think he will be the second coming of BRian Leetch but he should be better than what the had for a long time ;).
Forum: NHL Signings2 juill. 2019 à 23 h 48
Sujet: Vegas Golden Knights signed Tomas Nosek (1 Year / $1,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>The issue is going to be what McPhee wants to do with Gusev and Schuldt, who are immune to offer sheets. Assuming Glass replaces McKenzie or Zykov on the main roster, Las Vegas has about $2.4M in cap space for two defensemen (of whom Whitecloud, at $925, might be one) and a backup goalie, without reference to the two question marks. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.</div></div>

I think Vegas should have got rid of HOldin who is like 2M+... Still mad they didn't play Gusev up 3-1 vs. Sharks while Avalanche tossed Makar right into the fire... Lot harder to play D in NHL or playoffs compared to forward... Zykov I remember when Kings traded to get him slamming tables only to throw him away in horrible deal :). Zykov is like 600K or minimal money so his salary isn't a problem.. Paying a few guys millions more than worth coupled w/ Reaves getting almost 3M bankrupted team fast... I figured they would trade Gusev since Gallant will treat him like that other russian who had 1 goal in 3 games they ran out of town :).
Forum: NHL Signings2 juill. 2019 à 23 h 46
Sujet: Vegas Golden Knights signed Jaycob Megna (1 Year / $700,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Heed is this year's Dylan Demelo -- a guy no one paid sufficient attention to. I wanted him for my two main teams (Anaheim and Toronto) because they were both so hopelessly weak at RD. However, Kyle Dubas has taken some pretty good steps to cure the Maple Leafs' problem there.</div></div>

Yeah I'm still stunned they got Kerfoot/Barrie who I think are both best players involved in that trade... Heed is guy I watched for a few years expecting him to breakout a bit more... I'm a bit surprised he stayed w/ Sharks since other teams I think he had better chances... I remember when I liked Wideman who had like 5 goals as right D-man on Senators but they took MEthot instead :). Maple Leafs must figure if they had a better defense they get past Boston into Cup... Blues had better defense than Boston who I picked to make cup... I was 100% in EAst but figured Sharks would Win Cup over Boston... Blues were my only mistake picking having JEts lose to them then Stars who I thought would have beat JEts to face Sharks in WCF :).
Forum: San Jose Sharks2 juill. 2019 à 23 h 42
Sujet: Thoughts on Pavelski,Nyquist and Donskoi walking in FAs.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sharks2020</b></div><div>I'm sad about Pavs and Donny.
Nyquist could've beem great
Thoughts? Anyone?</div></div>

Well Joe was one of my favorite players... I liked the others, Donskoi seemed to have fallen out of favor after starting his career there pretty good... Joe was always hurt or faded in playoffs while Logan was the clutch guy... I think they were better off keeping Hoffman over Karlsson last year... Then trying to get a Muzzin type player to improve the left side D.. They would have had Braun/DeMelo/Heed on right side w/ Burns... I'm not nearly as upset as I was when Judas Marleau left the team... I think it was time for Joe to go in a way... They went pretty far without him... They need to improve the left side of D... They can probably replace some of what they lost or improve... Brodzinski I like who they signed, they were able to keep HEed so their right side of D should be good...

They already lost the window for Cup I think so maybe everything is future... Losing Mirco Mueller from expansion having to trade to DEvils hurt them badly in a way... I think if expansion timed a bit different maybe they win a Cup. I wont be upset if Joe wins a cup for STars, I'm more upset about the contract they gave krap Karl to be frank :).