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Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 2:26 pm
Sujet: Trade up a bit for byfield
The difference between Byfield and Rossi is so immense that Cholowski and a 2nd are laughable. Rossi is ranked in just about every list around 7-9. A few have him really high, but their defense of that falls apart whenever people bring up Rossi's numerous flaws. Why on earth would the Sens trade away one of the two unreal prospects that act as consolation prizes for one of the lowest ranked prospects in the top 10, a meh defenseman, and a 2nd that they already have four of?

Now ignoring saying it's to downgrade to Rossi since he's probably one of the worst guys you could've picked for this, it's still not worth it now or ever. There's a very clear second tier behind Lafreniere that has Stutzle and Byfield. <em>Very</em> few people have Byfield lower than 3 and they're typically laughed at for their opinions. Dorion holds all the cards and would absolutely roast Detroit over a fire in a trade if they want to move up. Detroit and Yzerman are smarter than that so it'd never happen.
Forum: Armchair-GM 7 jui à 13 h 50
Sujet: Sens
Hey, so with this I figure you don't know have a clue who Logan Brown is so I just wanna share something pretty cool.

Since 2010, the only 21 year old players with better season paces in the AHL than Brown are: Frank Vatrano (2015-2016; 1.528 PPG), Taylor Hall (2012-2013; 1.308 PPG), Drake Batherson (2019-2020; 1.227 PPG), Andrew Mangiapane (2017-2018; 1.179) and Devin Shore (2015-2016; 1.130 PPG). Brown's got 1.12 PPG. Before these seasons, Hall had played <em>in the NHL</em> for two seasons putting up <strong>95 points in 126 games</strong>, and both Vatrano and Shore came from college. Vatrano also played on a stupidly stacked Providence team (with Seth Griffith who was a star that year). Mangiapane in his previous year had 0.62 PPG and is now 24 and just put up a near 40 point pace in the NHL as a 6th rounder. Batherson in his previous year had 1.05 PPG and throughout his collective short stints in the NHL thus far has put up 0.44 PPG on really bad Sens teams. Brown put up 0.75 PPG in his first AHL season, and this year in the NHL put up 0.35 PPG on the freaking Senators. Of those guys in front of him, one was pretty consistently a 30-40 point guy before falling off (Shore), another is about a 40 point guy (Vatrano), one just became a 40 point guy (Mangiapane), and another is one of the highest scoring LWers in the NHL (Hall). Plus Batherson, who's widely considered to be one of the best players in the AHL right now, and one of the top prospects in the league (Wheeler just ranked him #18).

The point being that Brown has shown more than absolutely everybody in front of him except for Hall (and Batherson, but they're the same age so we'll see), and they all became about 40 point players in the NHL. He's been better than all of those guys, and comes from being an 11th OA. This is a guy who's been said to have a ceiling as a 1C, who's amongst the highest in all time AHL point paces before the age of 22. And in your trade, you've shipped him off to one of the best teams in the league for somebody who's (1) gotten progressively worse over the past three years, (2) has 5 years left at $5.2M despite currently being worth probably just above half of that, and (3) is 6 years older.

So nah.
Forum: Armchair-GM 7 jui à 13 h 17
Sujet: Cap Space for 2020-21
The issue with this trade is that it's like "here, take our two overpaid players and we'll pay you with two more crappy players". It's not just you; every Edmonton fan on here thinks they can pawn off all of this trash with more and more and more trash.

On the back end, the Sens already have 6 guys that are NHL players to some degree (Chabot, Zub, Zaitsev, Wolanin, Jaros and Rielly), there's a good chance they re-sign Borowiecki making it 7, and they have 4 prospects expected to push sooner rather than later (Brannstrom, Lajoie, Alsing and Thomson). That makes for 11 guys, all of whom they'd rather play over an overpaid Russell and Benning, who's a third pairing guy at best (although I'd personally take either over Zaitsev; still that's 10 other guys). Up front, it's very much the exact same situation. They don't need a 4th liner like Khaira, they have like 6 of those already and a bunch of prospects they'd rather give time to. There's nothing in this for Ottawa, or any team you want to give your expensive trash to.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 jun à 10 h 30
Sujet: Something different
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I don’t really want Paul and Jaros is a depth Dman. I think a 2nd and 3rd is fair</div></div>

Paul just put up a 30 point pace in the bottom 6 and Jaros is a 24 year old D who fills both holes we currently have (RHD and defensive D). They're not extremely valuable, but they do have value. Adding that on to a 2nd and a 3rd for Puljujarvi? Nah. Anybody that watches Liiga can attest that the kid just played a year in which he hogged the puck and played a selfish game to rack up and inflate his points. He's developed nothing except his ego which we already knew was a problem. His lazy work ethic and refusal to grow his game is the antithesis of the Sens, and not only is he a dangerous personality to bring into the locker room since he seems to think he can coast and get chances solely based on his draft position, he's not worth a mid 2nd, a high 3rd, a 3rd liner and a bottom pairing D with some upside.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 jun à 15 h 13
Sujet: 2021
Seems Johnsson to Ottawa is a very common thing people like to do around here but it doesn't and hasn't ever made a whole lot of sense from Ottawa's perspective. He's good and it's a buy low situation, but the Sens have Tkachuk and Duclair above him on the left side, with potential to add Lafreniere or Stutzle (hell, even both) by the draft. They also will eventually introduce Formenton into the lineup, Balcers is still a wildcard as to where he ends up, Connor Brown has played the left side too, and one of Norris or Brown could find themselves moved to the wing depending on this draft. If Johnsson played on the right side, maybe, but there isn't much there otherwise. For a pick that's nearly a 2nd, the Sens likely target other needs either through trade or the draft. Their one and only position of depth is LW.

Basically, the Sens would buy low and then flip him right away to somebody who actually wants a high end 3rd line/fill-in 2nd line guy; Toronto would basically be better off doing that trade themselves.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 jun à 17 h 24
Sujet: 2021 Hawks with No Cap Growth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>I mean he's a top forward prospect as of right now, but what that will translate to with Tkachuk and White already established as top 6 forwards is likely a bottom 6 role for Pinto as things stand right now. Lets say Ottawa lands 2 and 3 OA and take Byfield and Stutzle, the BPA. Your top 6 in 2021-2022 will probably look something like Stutzle-White-Tkachuk and Norris-Byfield-Batherson with Byfield switching with White whenever he proves ready. Pinto likely is too good for a bottom 6 role, so the smart distribution of resources says to trade him for a position of need or a top 6 upgrade in order to make them that much better going forward. Trading Pinto for a better top 6 forward makes the Sens that much better in the long run than hording him in the bottom 6 where he doesnt get the necessary playing time to fully develop</div></div>

Those are high expectations for White at this point, even though I'm a big fan of his. Only Tkachuk looks like a sure top 6 player; Batherson, Brown and Norris show that upside, and White and Formenton might have it in them, but they're no guarantees. Every single one of them can top out at middle 6ers. Pinto is right up there with that crowd. Depending on who you ask, he's top 5 but for sure top 10 in the organization. For me, he's likely 4th but I'm not very high on Brannstrom so at worst Pinto is 5th. As it stands right now, nobody is in the top 6 for the Sens outside of Tkachuk, so they're certainly not trading a top prospect for a third liner, a third pairing D, and a 7th while also giving up a 5th?
Forum: Armchair-GM 3 avr à 13 h 11
Sujet: First 3 Rounds 2020 Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Idk why i just prefer Rossi over Perfetti and most Sens fans do. Hes also playing local so a bunch have seen him play.</div></div>

Yeah being from Ottawa and going to all 67s games, I've seen him a lot. He's below Lundell as far as I'm concerned. I'd say (1) Laf (2) Byfield, Stutzle (3) Drysdale, Perfetti (4) Raymond, Holtz (5) Lundell, Rossi. He's a week away from being in last year's draft with okay numbers. Rossi is a few months younger than Adam Beckman, a 2019 3rd rounder who went from 0.91 PPG to 1.70 PPG vs Rossi's 1.23 PPG to 2.14 PPG. So, impressive yes, but red flags. Perfetti did similarly to Rossi with less talent (and far fewer overagers) around him while also being like 4 months younger. Plus he can actually skate; Rossi has the misfortune of being undersized and a poor skater. That doesn't often translate well and Debrincat is the exception. There's a reason Perfetti has surged in many rankings lately and Rossi is starting to drop down again. There's nobody in that top 10 with numbers more inflated by the team around him than Rossi.