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Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 2:26 pm
Forum: Armchair-GM 7 jui à 13 h 50
Sujet: Sens
Hey, so with this I figure you don't know have a clue who Logan Brown is so I just wanna share something pretty cool.

Since 2010, the only 21 year old players with better season paces in the AHL than Brown are: Frank Vatrano (2015-2016; 1.528 PPG), Taylor Hall (2012-2013; 1.308 PPG), Drake Batherson (2019-2020; 1.227 PPG), Andrew Mangiapane (2017-2018; 1.179) and Devin Shore (2015-2016; 1.130 PPG). Brown's got 1.12 PPG. Before these seasons, Hall had played <em>in the NHL</em> for two seasons putting up <strong>95 points in 126 games</strong>, and both Vatrano and Shore came from college. Vatrano also played on a stupidly stacked Providence team (with Seth Griffith who was a star that year). Mangiapane in his previous year had 0.62 PPG and is now 24 and just put up a near 40 point pace in the NHL as a 6th rounder. Batherson in his previous year had 1.05 PPG and throughout his collective short stints in the NHL thus far has put up 0.44 PPG on really bad Sens teams. Brown put up 0.75 PPG in his first AHL season, and this year in the NHL put up 0.35 PPG on the freaking Senators. Of those guys in front of him, one was pretty consistently a 30-40 point guy before falling off (Shore), another is about a 40 point guy (Vatrano), one just became a 40 point guy (Mangiapane), and another is one of the highest scoring LWers in the NHL (Hall). Plus Batherson, who's widely considered to be one of the best players in the AHL right now, and one of the top prospects in the league (Wheeler just ranked him #18).

The point being that Brown has shown more than absolutely everybody in front of him except for Hall (and Batherson, but they're the same age so we'll see), and they all became about 40 point players in the NHL. He's been better than all of those guys, and comes from being an 11th OA. This is a guy who's been said to have a ceiling as a 1C, who's amongst the highest in all time AHL point paces before the age of 22. And in your trade, you've shipped him off to one of the best teams in the league for somebody who's (1) gotten progressively worse over the past three years, (2) has 5 years left at $5.2M despite currently being worth probably just above half of that, and (3) is 6 years older.

So nah.
Forum: Armchair-GM 7 jui à 13 h 17
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Sujet: 2021
Forum: Armchair-GM18 jun à 17 h 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>I mean he's a top forward prospect as of right now, but what that will translate to with Tkachuk and White already established as top 6 forwards is likely a bottom 6 role for Pinto as things stand right now. Lets say Ottawa lands 2 and 3 OA and take Byfield and Stutzle, the BPA. Your top 6 in 2021-2022 will probably look something like Stutzle-White-Tkachuk and Norris-Byfield-Batherson with Byfield switching with White whenever he proves ready. Pinto likely is too good for a bottom 6 role, so the smart distribution of resources says to trade him for a position of need or a top 6 upgrade in order to make them that much better going forward. Trading Pinto for a better top 6 forward makes the Sens that much better in the long run than hording him in the bottom 6 where he doesnt get the necessary playing time to fully develop</div></div>

Those are high expectations for White at this point, even though I'm a big fan of his. Only Tkachuk looks like a sure top 6 player; Batherson, Brown and Norris show that upside, and White and Formenton might have it in them, but they're no guarantees. Every single one of them can top out at middle 6ers. Pinto is right up there with that crowd. Depending on who you ask, he's top 5 but for sure top 10 in the organization. For me, he's likely 4th but I'm not very high on Brannstrom so at worst Pinto is 5th. As it stands right now, nobody is in the top 6 for the Sens outside of Tkachuk, so they're certainly not trading a top prospect for a third liner, a third pairing D, and a 7th while also giving up a 5th?
Forum: Armchair-GM 3 avr à 13 h 11