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Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 20 h 51

Sujet: Suzuki Calder Run Part Deux

Saad is definitely not on the decline at only 27. His stats are amazing as he's produced very good corsi and fenwick numbers on a poor Hawks team. Despite playing with average linemates he still scores consistently which amazes me. Watching him play I noticed he takes good shots too, not just weak wristers into the goalie's crest. I think this makes his corsi numbers better than they indicate. His PDO is also low which indicates with a little more luck his stats could be better. He's been so good that us Hawks fans contemplate trading Debrincat instead of Saad. Hope this clears things up.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 20 h 9

Sujet: Sell Now Oilers big trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CrazyK04</b></div><div>I'm terrified that Bowman actually will trade DeBrincat. I don't care if he's having a bad season, the dude will be a 50 goal scorer in the NHL for years.</div></div>

On the Oilers he might be but it looks like not in Chicago. For whatever reason its not working there.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>roosroos</b></div><div>I’d say just do RNH for Strome 1 for 1 or RNH + 1st next year for debrincat+</div></div>

That's fair and interesting trades for sure. As a Hawks fan I'd love to see Kane and RNH together. Oilers get a good deal too.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 19 h 48

Sujet: Something different I think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>graderman</b></div><div>can't trade all of the RHD, hey?! I tell you what, tho. Regardless of cap recapture, I would start by asking Duncan Keith to waive his NMC, not necessarily to the Leaves. (If he has to stay, I would drop him to the 3rd pairing even though he prolly still is their "number one defenseman". They aren't winning with him getting the most TOI so why not go a different route?). Sorry for the hijack.</div></div>

Ya Murph being a RHD just adds to his value in addition to his other qualities. Hawks shouldn't really be entertaining offers for him tbh. Keith is a tough move though and his return is probably not the greatest. He's a great mentor and can be valuable as part of a rebuild. Alot of successful rebuilding teams in the past had some older veterans to teach the up and comers so it's not that bad to keep Keith around.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 18 h 31

Sujet: Selling at TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>uphere</b></div><div>Right now Vegas projects to have the 16th pick over all. Given the purported depth of talent in the 2020 draft, I think that pick may not be traded. Bear in mind that Matthew Barzal and Jacob Chychrun were 16th overall picks in 2015 and 2016, respectively. Vegas has two second round and two third round picks, perhaps some combination of those might be a suitable return for Gustafsson and Kampf.</div></div>

Just because those teams drafted well at that position doesn't mean Hawks will get something but it's good to know that the draft is supposed to be deep this year and not just average.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 16 h 53

Sujet: Selling at TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DaBus</b></div><div>Realistically, I think we are one good top 4 defenseman and two decent forwards from competing. The issue is cap space.</div></div>

Seabrook's contract is an albatross and Toews is at least 3M overpaid. That's about 10M in "dead" cap space. Which is about 2-4 quality players right there sucked up in "dollars that shouldn't have been given".

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 16 h 44

Sujet: Something different I think

Wishful thinking that Hawks give up Murphy for Johnsson. AJ isn't what the Hawks need and a young Murph is too valuable on a defense that's already thin.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 15 h 53

Sujet: Selling at TDL

These are some interesting deals. From a Hawks perspective these arn't bad and the other teams get good value too imo. Only gripe I have is dealing Kampy away with Gus for a mere 1st. Maybe a 1st and a 5th and you have good value for the Hawks side.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 15 h 45

Sujet: Waiting

Rumor has it that Benning wanted Simmonds at FA but he turned Canucks down. Idk why Benning would go for a guy that didn't even want to be in Van.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 15 h 41

Sujet: Hawks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ethanives</b></div><div>its a fair trade chicago just wont trade debrincat though hes a monster</div></div>

Given how much he's struggled recently I'd say Bowman is listening to any offers for Cat. He's a great player just something isn't working whether it's Colliton's constant line juggling or the new contract is messing with him. Seems he needs a fresh start somewhere else and will probably do better there. This is Nick Schmaltz 2.0 Barzal and Debrincat would be interesting...

Forum: NHL Signings10 févr. 2020 à 15 h 28

Sujet: Edmonton Oilers signed Darnell Nurse (2 Years / $5,600,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>What discount? They should have gotten at least 3 years. This contract lowers his trade value.</div></div>

He took under 6M per season, I agree the discount isn't much. Seems the price for top 4 defensemen is rising. Just 3-5 seasons ago this deal would have been outrageously high AAV. Now it's "reasonable". So many teams looking for a top 4 but very little availability according to Dreger. My guess is some team will offer Nurse close to 7M or more in free agency. Who knows maybe Nurse resigns but I think Oilers will overpay on next contract if they keep him.

Forum: NHL Signings10 févr. 2020 à 13 h 43

Sujet: Edmonton Oilers signed Darnell Nurse (2 Years / $5,600,000 AAV)

This signing screams Nurse wants to test free-agency ASAP. I bet Oilers offered something along the lines of the Morrisey contract 8yrs @ 6.25 AAV more or less. Seems Nurse probably insisted for only 2 years so he took a slight discount.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 12 h 25

Sujet: Roll 4 Lines Baby

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shifttee</b></div><div>As a CAR fan, i'm offended that your attempt to swindle us is flying under the radar from that DeBrincat trade</div></div>

Lol I wouldn't say swindle. I just threw Carolina in because I thought they were a team that needed a defenseman. Imo would look good with the Canes too. Truly Hawks just have to dump Maatta's contract which isnt horrible because he's a good defenseman, just they can't afford him. Maybe Maatta would only get a 3rd from a team?

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 12 h 21

Sujet: Roll 4 Lines Baby

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>Oof that’s DeBrincat trade is terrible.</div></div>

What do you think he'd fetch on the open market?

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 12 h 20

Sujet: Roll 4 Lines Baby

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>No chance we trade debrincat for a contender's 1st round pick. If McDavid got him he'd probably never miss the net again and theyd be able to do something in the playoffs, making it a high 20s pick. Nope nope nope</div></div>

Thanks for your opinion. I agree Cat would probly find his game again with McDavid. Would be like his old days with the Otters. A first and a third is probly too low a selling price to the Oilers.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2020 à 0 h 40

Sujet: Canucks fan want Domi no problem

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_fan123</b></div><div>pettersson?</div></div>

He's first line LW

Forum: Armchair-GM1 févr. 2020 à 12 h 31

Sujet: Canucks fan want Domi no problem

Canucks have Miller 1C and Horvat 2C, what they supposed to do, have Domi at 3C or wing??? Fair offer but there's no need from Van's perspective.

Forum: Armchair-GM1 févr. 2020 à 12 h 21

Sujet: Offseason and dealing with contracts

1. Only a 2nd for Saad to division rival Predators is rough.

2. Detroit and Anaheim are willing to take cap dumps, but they're going to want significant assets for that so good luck. Other teams will offer their own cap dumps.

3. Have you seen the Hawks awful depth chart? There's no one ready yet to replace Kampf's bottom 6 role. He's an underrated player that doesn't take penalties, is good defensively, can win faceoffs and kill penalties. His value to the Hawks is higher than a 5th. I'd only entertain dealing him for a 3rd or better rn.

Forum: Armchair-GM1 févr. 2020 à 12 h 5

Sujet: Selling off every piece that does not have a contract next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>That Colorado trade is rough. I feel like the Avs reject that instantly.</div></div>

If the Hawks offered this before the Kadri trade, they'd probly take it. Now that Avs have their 2C there's no space for Strome on the depth chart in Col so Stan is offering something Avs dont care for now.

Forum: Armchair-GM1 févr. 2020 à 11 h 55

Sujet: Dylan Strome is underrated

If one automatically resigns Strome for 4.5M why not just give him the extra 1.35M IF THATS ABSOLUTELY DEMANDED? Look at this...Seabrook is 6.85M and Toews 10.5M and that's MULTIMILLIONS overpaid. Surely overpaying a 22 year old a paltry 1.35M couldn't hurt the team THAT much? I agree though that 6M+ is cringey and could be hard to move his contract on that cap hit (especially if he busts).

Forum: Armchair-GM6 janv. 2020 à 23 h 47

Sujet: caught up in the feels

The Panarin trade always had me scratching my head. I think Stan said on Spitting Chiclets podcast that he wanted "cap certainty" with Saad's contract. Stan figured Panarin would be due for a massive contract. I guess Stan didn't want the pressure, but by dropping Bread like a hot potato, made a poor trade. His other reasoning was that Saad had playoff success in the past and maybe he could replicate that again in Chicago.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 janv. 2020 à 23 h 11

Sujet: Nylander Has Been Scratched For Three Straight Games

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>I don't understand why Colliton keeps scratching him. Nylander is easily better than Quenneville outright, and he's also better than smith, even on the 4th line, because Kampf at least has offensive upside that they can actually make plays if Smith didn't have bricks for hands. Nylander should be in the lineup over either one of them. Not saying I endorse the trade, it was ****ing brutal, but to say Nylander isn't one of the 12 best forwards on this team is absolutely stupid</div></div>

Nylander doesn't seem to fit in with Colliton's new "cycle the puck OR get traffic at the net and shoot" strategy. Nylander's a "create chances off the rush" player. Maybe Colliton can play him with Strome and Debrincat? They also prefer making plays off the rush over cycling or crashing the net. Problem is that they seem to try and stick handle the puck into the net. PP goals, deflections and screening goalies on shots is the most reliable way to score in this league now. Goalies are just tooo good and defenses tooo tight-checking to make rush plays a winning strategy. Hopefully Nylander can adapt...

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