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Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 8 h 31

Sujet: Is the Price wrong or Wright

Only thing I would say is top 10 protection on that 2023 Florida pick just in case the unforeseeable happens and they miss the playoffs.

Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 8 h 29

Sujet: Rangers Shakeup

Montreal is not trading Caufid sorry

Forum: Fauteuil - DGsam. à 8 h 28

Sujet: Wright Slafkovsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>They don't. Sorry you are blinded by homerisim.</div></div>

Petty 32-34-66 in 80 games
Zuke 21-40-61 in 82 games

Hmm look pretty similar to me

Forum: Fauteuil - DGsam. à 8 h 23

Sujet: Wright Slafkovsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Just delusional</div></div>

You seriously think Petterson is better than Zuke or Caufield and you are calling ME delusional. Zuke and Petty have almost the same stats this year and Caufield had 35 points in 36 games once he started getting deployed properly after the coaching change. As I said they all have similar value, the problem is you have a bias against Montreal that clouds your judgement.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGsam. à 8 h 19

Sujet: Wright Slafkovsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>Welcome to the world of MTL over value of anything they have.</div></div>

Just like we over valued Lehky and Chairot right?! Wait we got those right!

Forum: Fauteuil - DGven. à 22 h 12

Sujet: Wright Slafkovsky

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil</b></div><div>When are these terrible 2nd overall picks gonna go away?</div></div>

Unfortunately not until after the draft 😕

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Why do Habs fans think they can get 2 OA without giving up one of Suzuki/Caufield?</div></div>

When are casual hockey fans from random teams gonna realize that Suzuki and Caufield are worth more along the lines of Petterson than 2nd OVA and stop being ridiculous? Would Vancouver consider Petterson for 2nd OVA? No of course they wouldn't but somehow you think the Habs should do Zuke or CC!

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 17 h 30

Sujet: Dubois and 14 for 1 and Dvorak

Montreal doesn't do 1st OVA for PLD since we need Wright's ELC more than we need PLD.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 17 h 27

Sujet: Boom goes the rebuild

No from Montreal, Wright doesn't screw up our Cap for the next 3 years the way PLD does.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 10 h 53

Sujet: On offers for 2nd overall pick

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fonfon</b></div><div>I like the 1st one with Anderson, Norlinder and 2nd MTL for 1st NJD but I don't think NJ fans like it.</div></div>

I agree, but I would be willing to add another piece to this or upgrade the 2nd to Florida's 2023 1st (top 10 protected)

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 10 h 44

Sujet: Acquired 2nd OA

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil</b></div><div>Add Caufield and Devils do it</div></div>

Don't be ridiculous, Montreal is not moving Caufield or Suzuki for 2nd OVA. I know that you think it is worth it but it really isn't. Why would we move a guy who under the new coach was on pace for 40+ goals in his rookie season? That is like us asking for Jack Hughes for 1st OVA. Neither team is going to do anything like that. I know you don't like the deal and are probably just asking for Caufield out of spite because you are tired of these types of offers but instead of getting spiteful how about actually constructively contributing to the conversation with something more realistic or just declining the offer.

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 10 h 36

Sujet: Acquired 2nd OA

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tintin</b></div><div>Cooley >>> Andersson + Allen + C tier prospect + #27

None of the pieces coming back fit NJD either, other than the backup GK.
Think they only way Habs get #2 ova would be if they offered Caufield in return.</div></div>

Not saying this return is going to get it done but I think the OP was referencing my thread where I asked the price of the 2nd OVA pick and referenced a story saying that the Devils needs were a young scoring power forward and a backup goalie. I don't think that is their needs just said that is what the story said they identified as their needs. I honestly don't see anyone in the top 5 moving but you never know lol

Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 0 h 14

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>Why would teams be worried about that? You could question any prospect in NHL history and ask if they will flame out, that's why teams scout these top prospects like crazy. He is going to be a very good player, even I can see that after watching him man-handle 25-30 year olds in the Olympics. Kid will be good</div></div>

Hey don't ask me lol, I was just quoting the articles. There is speculation that some GM's aren't big on anyone outside of the top 3-5 and even then there is no clear concensus on who the 1st OVA should be between the top 5. That is what is driving these GM's to potentially trade their 1st for more immediate help. IDK if it will happen but it's out there lol.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGjeu. à 22 h 31

Sujet: Pick 1 and 2

Drafting Cooley makes no sense I would rather take Wright and Nemec. There was a reason Wright was granted exceptional status to the OHL. Of course it would require an offer that actually has a chance at success and that does not mean any of Caufield, Suzuki or Romanov HAVE to be in the deal but it does have to be better than this offer.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 22 h 25

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>1. Jiricek will be taken at either 5 or 6 by Philly/Columbus.

2. Ottawa was seen as a playoff team in 2017 as well as San Jose in 2018.

3. The 2023 draft class is supposedly deeper than the one for 2022.

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/seravalli-nhl-teams-are-asking-for-2023-draft-picks-over-2022/

4. For all I know, you could draft the next Kotkaniemi lol.

It's why draft picks are a tad overrated imo.</div></div>

I agree with all of the above, I know Jiricek could be gone at 5 or 6 but I figured this could be a draft day trade and IF he was available then we make the trade if not life goes on as usual lol

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 17 h 34

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>its not the WAR im going off of, the point is Romanov struggles with puck moving which has nothing to do with coaching.</div></div>

He doesn't though, have you never seen him skate or pass? He is actually quite good at both.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 17 h 33

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Good.

If the player you draft turns into a bust or Florida is not as good next year, don't complain and ask for a refund.</div></div>

I don't expect Florida to be the President's trophy winner but I see them as a playoff team, so no worries there and as for the prospect I would take Jiricek with the pick (if still available) to build up our pool of RD prospects. If he misses, so be it but you have to have darts to throw at the wall right lol.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 17 h 29

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Romanov isn’t worth the 13th pick and he isn’t what the isles need. The only player that would interest the isles is caufield and the Habs are not moving him.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Romanov is having a tough time. Per AllThreeZones, no defenceman is less involved in transition than he is. His combined 5v5 zone entries + exits per 60 is 6.1 - second-lowest is Jack Johnson at 9.6.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoHabsGo?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#GoHabsGo</a> <a href="https://t.co/Hcppjz0HjS" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://t.co/Hcppjz0HjS</a> <a href="https://t.co/eWFpgg7Nhh" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">pic.twitter.com/eWFpgg7Nhh</a></p>— JFresh (@JFreshHockey) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1495187969686355970?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">February 20, 2022</a></blockquote>

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That JFresh tweet was dated Feb 19th (9 days after the coaching change) at a time when Romy was barely playing 15 minutes a night. At seasons end he was averaging 20+ minutes and was much better then when those stat were produced.I guarantee if you found updated stats he would be somewhere around the 50th percentile for WAR

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 17 h 3

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>It seems like a strange rumor when they can just draft Juraj and he will literally be that kind of forward for them for years</div></div>

I agree just wonder if multiple teams are worried about the odds of Slaf flaming out. Cooley and Slaf have really high ceilings but they could just as easily flame out hence the reason I think this rumor surfaced. In all honesty though I don't see too many teams trading their 1sts this year was just looking at options.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 17 h 0

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>I was thinking more like Dvo + Florida's 1st for 2023 + Tuch or Struble.</div></div>

I would do that in a heartbeat lol.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 16 h 38

Sujet: What is the cost

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 16 h 35

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>Agreed, I just don't see other options for the Isles to move their 1st to MTL. Maybe they would take a shot on Edmundson for a lesser package, seems like he was solid when he came back this year.</div></div>

Is it LD you need? Eddy + maybe a 2023 2nd for 13th kind of makes sense to me since the 2023 picks are more valuable.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 16 h 32

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>That's not getting it done.

Sorry.

Either Suzuki and Caufield would likely be essential.

Unless Montreal adds substantially to a package centred on Dvorak.

Using the Dvorak trade with Arizona as a template, I'd be happy to offer you our 2 second round picks for 2022.

Best I can do.</div></div>

Sorry I meant and not or!

So the package was Dvo + 33rd OVA + Tuch or Struble

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 16 h 30

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>slapshot723</b></div><div>I'd say Romanov and Caufield are of interest.

I'd also take a shot at Drouin, but for nothing really of value.</div></div>

LMAO for 13th are you nuts? Drouin (retained) + something else minor sure but not on your life are we doing any young core players for 13th.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 16 h 28

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>Isles would probably only be looking for Romanov, but do not see why MTL would move him.</div></div>

I wouldn't for 13th but if the Devils wanted him for 2nd or the Sens for 7th we have enough LHD prospects to ease the blow there as long as we get one of Jiricek or Nemec.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 16 h 27

Sujet: What is the cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheMooterus</b></div><div>If the Devils are essentially trading away Slafkovsky or Cooley, I've gotta think they're going to target Cole Caufield. Not a power forward, but for the #2 pick, I want a top-6 impact player & that's Caufield.

EDIT** Personally, I don't think a trade like this would make sense for Montreal or New Jersey</div></div>

The rumor is that the Devils are looking for a young top 6 forward capable of playing a power forward type of game or a top 4 D.

"They would love to find a young scoring winger who can play a power forward type of game and they would love to find some goaltending help for Mackenzie Blackwood. With the #2 pick in hand, and a young forward like Pavel Zacha who isn't likely back with the hockey club, Fitzgerald has a couple of assets to consider moving to upgrade his hockey club. The Devils trade rumors are starting to heat up!"

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/05/nhl-rumors-new-jersey-willing-to-move-2.html

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