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Armchair-GM
17 juill. 2021 à 19 h 1
Sujet:
Expansion Stan Style
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ggha777</b></div><div>MTL is going to need a C to replace Danault if they can't re-sign him and Carpenter isn't that guy....Rather go after someone else in FA</div></div>
Was more for Staal than Danault.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PreemoForGM</b></div><div>Arizona trade seems heavily slanted in our favor</div></div>
Yeah, I'm still working on how to piece it together but seems like the sort of stupid move Stan would pull. OEL is a cap dump, it will help ARI clear cap and money.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>Boqvist and strome is enough without the picks</div></div>
I totally agree, but I could see Stan doing a move like this.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 juill. 2021 à 17 h 34
Sujet:
Blackhawks Mock draft with trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I’d rather shoot bigger with Strome and say if he get 60+, we get their first</div></div>
A team shouldn't add points to a pick upgrade condition in a trade, it's too easy to manipulate, Less PP time, worse wingers, or even less ice time in game, and even if a team didn't sabotage the chances at the conditions, it leaves an opening for "expert fans" to speculate they did.
A monetary bonus for a player in a contract would be the only situation you'll see a points condition included, such as in an ELC.
If you can cite one for a pick increase in a trade, post it please.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 oct. 2020 à 22 h 21
Sujet:
Move the team to North Dakota
Chi Rejects, but if a team relocates (Panthers or Arizona) it should be back to Quebec
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 nov. 2020 à 12 h 0
Sujet:
Doughty trade who says no
This is easy....kings decline
Forum:
Armchair-GM
30 oct. 2020 à 5 h 58
Sujet:
Are these fair trades to everyone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I see the Rangers as a team that has the pieces to contend even as quickly as next year, it just depends how the prospects adjust to the NHL. Also if Trouba can rebound</div></div>
Alexis Lafreniere is the only prospect expected to be on the opening night roster.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 13 h 34
Sujet:
THE DREAM TEAM
Wait, so you want us to pay more for Ryan Strome when Dylan is the better asset who's younger and more upside? Makes zero sense and we wouldn't trade Dylan 1 for 1 for Ryan let alone pay more by giving up a 3rd also.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 9 h 45
Sujet:
Top 20 Centres
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I get how you are making your rankings and that's fair.
but by the standards that everyone else is ranking their players, Draisaitl should be above Matthews</div></div>
Matthews had a garbage defensive season too if that helps
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 2 h 46
Sujet:
Empty The Cupboards
Can't imagine Carolina has any interest in that
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 2 h 46
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>Alright, again, that whole comparing him to others in the draft class is all well and good. I’m glad hawks fans are prideful of him being in the NHL. I still see others being even better, but that’s just my opinion and research.
I get that he may be special. He may even hit his ceiling. The athletic definitely loves him. It is crazy to be down on him. In the end, Joe Sakic still ended up byram and newhook, who will only make them even better. I’d be willing to bet newhook will excel a lot under mackinnon. Besides, Dach has to go up against them for the next 15 years. Crazier things have happened, but I’m sure there’s an obvious winner in that scenario for that duration.</div></div>
The correct comparison is Byram to Dach. Willing to be not one team in the lottery had Newhook above Dach or Byram. Newhook, like Debrincat and many others, may shock everyone it's certainly possible. Same with Zegras. Both are great prospects. The odds at the draft favored Dach (Sakic agreed) and still do and the gap has widened quite a bit after the playoffs. Before the playoffs I could at least entertain the idea but after, it's clear Dach has the game to step up big when it comes to big games and that's huge. That's why Toews is not overrated. His regular season he would be off games but playoff time came and he is a beast. Kane too. Dach is showing that at 18 and that's really impressive. He is going to stumble and have tough strings of games as growing pains for the next couple years but he will gain consistency with age and when he's on, he looks really good.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 2 h 45
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I mean if a 3rd overall draft pick turns into a 60point per year center, that's a success.</div></div>
Without question! You’re right on that one. And if that’s the case, the hawks fan base should be very satisfied.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 2 h 42
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>Lol at the CEO comments.
I'm not going to lie but I didn't really want Dach that much but we were supposed to draft like 14/15th overall or something in that range and we got lucky and moved to 3rd and we got a great prospect who looked very solid as an 18yo rookie. I am super happy with that pick and think that Dach showed signs of becoming an elite center. Now of course that may never happen but that's the gamble with prospects and I definitely don't want to sell him now.</div></div>
I was on the Turcotte and Byram train with Hatter, especially after the rookie tournament post draft, and after the first 20 games; but then the lights went on for me.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 2 h 40
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I mean if a 3rd overall draft pick turns into a 60point per year center, that's a success.</div></div>
He's going to be a 65 to 75 point per year center I'm betting and I'd take it all day long at #3 overall. Very Toews like IMO but slightly better offensively and slightly worse defensively.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 2 h 10
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>Lol, okay, well, I definitely didn’t mean that to be a bias, so that’s my bad I would say.
Sure I wanted byram or turcotte, however, my choice was honestly Trevor zegras, but that was NEVER gonna happen at number 3. If it was him or byram, yea, I’d be happy. As for now, I haven’t really addressed his speed lately, just his shot and hand eye. Keep in mind, I still haven’t even brought up that Suzuki got Calder votes (albeit not many) and Dach got exactly ZERO. Not once in the last month. I get that people hate that I’ll never be a fan of his, but it wouldn’t be the first time someone disliked one of their own.</div></div>
Not once were you talking about Zegras on here prior to the draft, c'mon man. Plenty of posts by you advocating for Byram or Turcotte.
Suzuki got Calder votes when he took 2 years longer to enter the league. Impressive but again, let's compare Dach with 2 more years of development against Suzuki last season and see. Did Zegras or Turcotte get any Calder votes; oh wait that's right they will take a couple years like Suzuki :)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 oct. 2020 à 23 h 37
Sujet:
Bruins 2021 season
This John Moore to Chicago business by Boston fans lately is hysterical :laugh
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 44
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Suzki at the age of 19 was in the OHL (Suzuki turned 21 in August) when he was 18 was his big season in the OHL, versus comparing Dach at the age of 18 in the NHL.
I watched Suzuki in the playoffs and he was great, so was Dach in the playoffs especially against Edmonton often matching up on Leon D.
I like Suzuki and he will continue to develop and be a great player but there is reason analysts love Dach's future and guys like Pronman ranking Dach ahead of Suzuki despite the age gap.</div></div>
Fair enough
Both really good players
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 44
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>With fairness to Suzuki, he did actually get what, 18-20 points more, and with worse players in his rookie year. Dach went 28 of 29 games without a point. He definitely looked better in the playoffs, and sure he did help contain the MVP. However, he did contain an MVP on an awful team, and then Vegas happened.
I’m not Suzuki is leaps and bounds better, but I’ll give respect to another team’s top notch get. Amazing how well that Vegas trade worked for them.</div></div>
Dach had 23 in 64, Suzuki had 41 in 71. In fairness to Dach, he played 2 minutes less a night. Dach missed all of preseason and training camp. Dach had 3 points on the powerplay, Suzuki had 14. Suzuki is also two years farther along in his development. Again, both great players. I think they’ll both be great NHLers. But I don’t think it’s all that crazy to think Dach will be better.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 44
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I'd take Dach over Suzuki because he's 6'4 and I think we need a more physical presence.
Either way, it's really not about the value in a trade like this. Chicago fans want Dach and Montreal fans want Suzuki.
The trade is toxic because obviously both franchises were going to say that</div></div>
Well said! Both sides are fully dug in on both players for sure.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 34
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>Kotkaniemi played at 18 yo doesn't mean he was better than Suzuki
Suzuki did ****ing well at 19yo we can't complain about is 19 yo season
He started the year playing on the 4th line with Cousins/Weal/Thompson and manage to end the year being the #1 center and was our best forward by far in these playoffs.
Manage to put 41 points despite playing 4th line minutes at the beginning in Claude Julien system ( which is something lol )
But I didn't watch enough of Dach, only highlights ( regular season only ) and his goal looks like garbage goals / huge rebound with an empty net ( good thing he's driving the net I'm not roasting him at ALL )
Again he was super young and making the team at 18 is always something</div></div>
Suzki at the age of 19 was in the OHL (Suzuki turned 21 in August) when he was 18 was his big season in the OHL, versus comparing Dach at the age of 18 in the NHL.
I watched Suzuki in the playoffs and he was great, so was Dach in the playoffs especially against Edmonton often matching up on Leon D.
I like Suzuki and he will continue to develop and be a great player but there is reason analysts love Dach's future and guys like Pronman ranking Dach ahead of Suzuki despite the age gap.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 29
Sujet:
A toxic trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>How does that establish bias? What’s incorrect about that statement? Hawks fans adore Dach and MTL fans adore Suzuki. That’s pretty clear isnt it?
I didn’t miss my draft report either, I was just the 11th man who had to disagree. It was just coincidence that I genuinely wasn’t a fan.</div></div>
"Hawks fans adore Dach and MTL fans adore Suzuki" that is non bias! "Hawks fans have a woody for Dach and MTL loves Suzuki" that is bias
You did, because you weren't a fan and wish the Hawks drafted Turcotte and Byram (you were, and up until the playoffs, were very vocal about it here), and still call out things about Dach from his predraft card that aren't accurate such as speed and lack of skating...that simply isn't true and he's proven that. Furthermore, Pronman from The Athletic on his best players/prospect under 23 years old has Dach as #16, Suzuki at #27, Byram at #31, and tanked on Turcotte at #89; there are very good reasons for his rankings not to mention he's obviously very well respected as a analyst and writer around the league.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct. 2020 à 8 h 52
Sujet:
Mantha - Strome - Debrincat Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsFan9</b></div><div>DeBrincat >>>>>>> Mantha. Bring it on wings fans</div></div>
No argument here, Mantha would be closer if he could stay healthy. But unfortunately right now that's a big if. I'd take Debrincat every day over Mantha. Would love to bring the Detroit kid home but not at the cost of Mantha.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct. 2020 à 9 h 29
Sujet:
How far do they go
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I feel like Carolina has this D beat with Slavin, Hamilton, and Pesce</div></div>
Really? I think Hamilton is the best out of the bunch, and maybe Slavin is even #2 although one could argue Fox did better last year, but then there's the 4 guys on this team I think, with Martinez not far behind Pesce either. I think this team has 4 #1D's - although not all high end #1's ofc.
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Armchair-GM
27 oct. 2020 à 5 h 48
Sujet:
Barkov at TDL if Panthers Crash
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I’d say that you added very solid pieces but i think the trade would have to include Kakko, Laf, or Fox because of how young Barkov is. Ultimately, I’d think that the Rangers would be better off not making this trade</div></div>
Agreed.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 oct. 2020 à 20 h 22
Sujet:
Patty Kane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I think the problem with Kane is that no one is willing to give up the assets for a fair trade. Like realistically if Kane is being traded with 50% retention and a cap dump is coming back, he should bring back an absolute haul. 50% retention is a lot for someone of his caliber who is arguably outperforming his contract already.
A lot of people on here don't see the value in Kane and that derives from most of them not actually watching him play and just seeing his age. It doesn't matter what his workout routine is or how dedicated he is or whether his game is mental or physical. Hawks fans see another St Louis career which is completely reasonable considering Kane has gotten much better after the "traditional prime years". It really would be unfair for any team to trade what some are proposing for a 31+ career of St Louis'.
Honestly, I don't mind either way because if we trade him it helps us rebuild so that we can resign him after his contract is over. Also giving me a little playoff excitement haha. And I'm totally ok with no trading him.
At the end of the day, people can bring up age but his numbers don't lie and getting that sort of production at ~5M is absurd.</div></div>
It’s the whole “well what has he done recently?” Bug... just because there’s no cup the last few years they think he is irrelevant to hockey. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Montreal has never had an elite forward, they rely on the 6 guys making 5-6M. This deal would be perfect for both sides. CHI fast tracks the rebuild. Montreal makes it deep in playoffs and likely wins a cup in those 3 years before their franchise G retires. Yes, it’s a lot to lose but in 94 the rangers gave up Doug Weight and Tony Amonte to raise a cup. Dallas moves Iginla to win..
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Armchair-GM
26 oct. 2020 à 18 h 43
Sujet:
Patty Kane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>Even with no rentention, easy pass from Montreal. Hawks fans need to stop living from 6 seasons ago.</div></div>
Lol
Chicago isn't doing this. Montréal wouldn't be able to pass. Maybe watch Kane, he is the same from 6 years ago.
Not a hawk or hab fan
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Armchair-GM
26 oct. 2020 à 18 h 13
Sujet:
Patty Kane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Breadmanhawks</b></div><div>I think the problem with Kane is that no one is willing to give up the assets for a fair trade. Like realistically if Kane is being traded with 50% retention and a cap dump is coming back, he should bring back an absolute haul. 50% retention is a lot for someone of his caliber who is arguably outperforming his contract already.
A lot of people on here don't see the value in Kane and that derives from most of them not actually watching him play and just seeing his age. It doesn't matter what his workout routine is or how dedicated he is or whether his game is mental or physical. Hawks fans see another St Louis career which is completely reasonable considering Kane has gotten much better after the "traditional prime years". It really would be unfair for any team to trade what some are proposing for a 31+ career of St Louis'.
Honestly, I don't mind either way because if we trade him it helps us rebuild so that we can resign him after his contract is over. Also giving me a little playoff excitement haha. And I'm totally ok with no trading him.
At the end of the day, people can bring up age but his numbers don't lie and getting that sort of production at ~5M is absurd.</div></div>
A lot of people on here don't have a clue honestly. They overvalue draft picks, and don't understand the value to wining a cup and just how much revenue that brings a team. A team truly competing, MTL is not and Kane would never waive to go there, would be all over a Kane trade IF he was available.
Kane has more hardware to his name then most teams do on their entire roster combined.
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