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Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 mars à 14 h 57
Sujet:
Petey to Carolina
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>seanrushton</b></div><div>Blake is a top-6 guy and Morrow is a top-4 guy... There's plenty of quality here... just because you know nothing about our prospects doesn't mean that they aren't quality</div></div>
If you want to acquire a top 10 player in the league you’re gonna have to give up elite assets. Morrow and Blake are solid but not good enough to be headline prospects for a Pettersson trade
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 déc. 2023 à 13 h 46
Sujet:
Calgary a No Go
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TooMalevolent</b></div><div>Has anyone said that Calgary took less because they don't want to deal with the ex-GM? They would rather the player in the same division (with an extension possible), than deal with another GM? I don't buy that.</div></div>
From what I saw the Leafs needed retention and the Flames didn’t want to retain, so they traded him to Vancouver. Also saw the Canucks needed to add a 5th as inter division tax, so I assume Toronto was offering a 3rd as well
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 nov. 2023 à 18 h 13
Sujet:
Tweaking to Optimize
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Rakell was not primarily a center with the Ducks. You're 100% wrong. If he started as one early in his career it was short-lived. He's been a winger for almost all his time in the NHL, so keep proving you have no clue what you're talking about.
Looking at Podzlokin's numbers is all I need. His AHL numbers are MID and do not track on NHL success and while I'm sure you're someone who doesn't like stats when they don't support your narrative, the AHL-to-NHL predictor based on AHL stats is pretty damn accurate and he's basically trending on the cusp. He's your Alex Nylander.
Second, yes, there was lots of fire around Miller and when the dust settled it was reported there were absolutely NO serious discussions. As for your "reporting" on Miller. I don't think you actually read the article. I didn't say there was no interest if you read my original statement. I said there was nothing close to serious discussions that happened and that's exactly what this article said. It said Hextall "flirted" with the idea. Maybe you don't know what flirted means and I'm beginning to question your reading abilities, but it was widely reported that we never close to getting Miller nor did any major discussions take place.
So yeah... keep it up.</div></div>
What conversion chart are you using? Dobbers' conversion system shows Podkolzin's AHL numbers to be at a 35-point pace in the NHL this season, which would have been good enough for 7th among Penguins forwards last season. Guess half your team is fringe NHLers then. Sorry about that. Also, look at his advanced stats in the NHL. Positive Corsi 5v5 as a 20 y/o, 21 y/o on a team that was in the basement. You don't get those numbers without having a strong two-way game. Podkolzin is worth more than you give him credit for. Saying he's worth more than a fringe defenseman who has aged out as being a prospect isn't overvaluing him. You're overvaluing your own players.
Also — no serious conversations? My guy, the Canucks and Penguins were having "heated discussions", and Sullivan was weighing his input on the potential trade. Let me ask you, if there wasn't any serious conversation happening, why would Hextall ask the coach his opinion on a potential trade? Why would Zucker's name be so synonymous with the potential Miller trade? If it's at the point where they have the names of players down and are asking coaching staff for their opinions, that is not the first phone call, it is the ninth or tenth in a series of discussions. Why would it go down to the 11th hour before the Penguins decided another route? Why was it being reported by every insider between Pittsburgh and Vancouver, by Friedman, LeBrun, Johnston, etc? C'mon man, the only person you're lying to is yourself.
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Armchair-GM
21 nov. 2023 à 0 h 58
Sujet:
Tweaking to Optimize
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>So again, I didn't say this makes sense for you guys, but as I suspected you will all overvalue Podzlokin. Yeah, he's got a decent two-way game, but he's not trending to being a very productive NHL winger. POJ has regressed, I won't deny that, but I don't see a POJ/Podzlokin as being a very lopsided swap. If Podzlokin has more value than POJ, it's minimal simply because he's an unknown asset at this point. That said, the POJ/Miller thing was all complete BS. It was widely reported that the Miller discussions were nothing that got close to serious discussion; mere inquiries.
I agree that Rakell doesn't make much sense for you guys, but you do realize he's a winger and not a center, right?
I also suspect that the POJ/Podzlokin part was really just an ancillary part of the deal.</div></div>
Tell me you know nothing about Podkolzin without telling me you know nothing about Podkolzin.
If you think Podkolzin has the same value as POJ, then you wouldn't mind trading Sam Poulin for Noah Juulsen, right? 22-year-old winger for a mid-20s fringe NHL defenseman. It's a fair deal according to you.
It was reported that Pittsburgh was very much interested in Miller, it wasn't played down, it was because Sullivan refused to let Zucker be moved as part of the deal. That's how you ended up with Granlund. I don't understand why you're trying this revisionist history. It was literally reported by Penguins writers: https://theathletic.com/4542179/2023/05/24/pittsburgh-penguins-franchise-nhl-playoff-streak/
Rakell was a center when he was with the Ducks, haven't watched him since he was moved outside of the Conference.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 nov. 2023 à 13 h 42
Sujet:
playing around
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>Fair enough. Would you pay a 3rd or 4th for Brannstrom or you just don't want him?</div></div>
Not sure Vancouver is the right place for him. I understand Brannstrom is better than these two players, but Tochett has been reluctant to play similar sized players like Rathbone and Hirose. At best, he would be a 3rd pair Dman.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct. 2023 à 8 h 30
Sujet:
This needs to happen
I don't think a 3rd pairing Dman that's currently being scratched in favour of Erik Gudbranson and has term left at 2.75mil is going to return any asset. Further, unless EDM really REALLY likes Peeke, I don't imagine they're keen on further limiting their cap flexibility next year.
Also, Foegele is playing well for the team so I don't imagine they'd have any interest in trading him given he's close with the core.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct. 2023 à 8 h 58
Sujet:
The only realistic deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canuckfan98</b></div><div>Considering Klingberg is average at defense at best we do not need him, we have Hughes and Hronek both guys can play on the PP what we need is a solid two way top 4 RHD. So wasting a 2nd on a redundant player on the canucks would not be optimal in any sense.</div></div>
Okay fair enough
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 oct. 2023 à 17 h 34
Sujet:
VAN would you rather
I'd pass on both. Peeke for Garland is a bit of a gamble for both teams but fair value, doesn't work if Vancouver retains and adds a pick.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 oct. 2023 à 17 h 40
Sujet:
Poolparty
Peeke has negative value. If he were put on waivers no one is taking that contract on.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 oct. 2023 à 17 h 43
Sujet:
Poolparty
Canucks can't do that. No space. The whole idea of the Canucks CBJ trades you've maybe seen, is you are giving cap space for us to take him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 oct. 2023 à 14 h 21
Sujet:
Jack Snow
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>Just do Peeke for Beauviller, trading Podkolzin would be a mistake. I'd also be willing to bet Garland rescinds is trade request if the Canucks have a good season</div></div>
Prefer to not be anywhere near Peeke and his awful contract. We don't need a depth guy on a three yr deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 oct. 2023 à 14 h 15
Sujet:
IF EP wants out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Well, the Canucks would get centre Beck and a RHD Reinbecker and more. Surely with the 12m in cap, the Canucks can attract UFA to replace Pettersson....yeah not as good.
Pettersson will be one year away from UFA.....seems like more than fair offer....although it could be tweeked.</div></div>
In my opinion this is arguably less than what Eichel got, and Pettersson is a better player than Eichel and isn’t in need of major neck surgery. So he should get a better return
Reinbacher = Krebs (Krebs was the 26th ranked prospect by the Athletic at the time of the Eichel trade, Reinbacher was ranked 20th this year)
1st = 1st
Harris = 2nd
Beck < Tuch
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 oct. 2023 à 12 h 14
Sujet:
Another potentially low cost acquisition
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goreton</b></div><div>Savard is perfectly fine. The perception he sucks is only caused by him taking 1st pair minutes when he should be a 4th dman. Habs won't trade him unless they have a good return and they are not looking at dumping him at all. And he has been nothing but a great leader for all the young dmen habs have. Marty praised him last week on the biggest TV show we have in Quebec by saying he's the epitome of leadership and that he would have loved to have Savard as a teammate when he played.</div></div>
He’s been bad for 3 years, which includes 21/22 when he was the #3 in Montreal and 20/21 when he was the #3 in Columbus and #4 in Tampa after his trade. He’s a Tyler Myers level dman, and you’d need to pay the Canucks to take his contract. We aren’t looking to trade assets for bad players with bad contracts
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 juill. 2023 à 13 h 2
Sujet:
Small Deal Concludes Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boldirev</b></div><div>Hoglander........?</div></div>
Lol ya he's signed now.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 mai 2023 à 0 h 28
Sujet:
New faces
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>This is giving VAN a free pass for being stupid for years.</div></div>
They wait a year and Myers expires. Doing this deal is stupidity continued.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 févr. 2023 à 12 h 24
Sujet:
Luke Schenn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Herb_Brooks</b></div><div>yeah leafs say no
find it funny how much nucks fans value the 3rd paining rd on the 6th worse team in the NHL</div></div>
Lol this true but it's ironic how many Leafs trades have him above Holl. That said, there seems to be a lot of interest in Schenn.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2023 à 12 h 39
Sujet:
Leafs Get Past Round 1
VAN looking for 3rd+ for SCHENN due to Pagnotta.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 janv. 2023 à 11 h 38
Sujet:
Enough for Bo Too little Thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>I don't consider Adam Boqvist a high end piece, Plus he hasn't been able to stay healthy since joining the Blue Jackets.</div></div>
I mean your opinion on Boqvist doesn’t matter, what matter is what the gms are thinking and at the time Boqvist was a huge prospect. They also got Sillinger and Jiricek on that deal. The first bit of this paragraph sounds a bit rude I’m sorry. My English isn’t that good so I don’t have a lot of words to choose from 😅
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 janv. 2023 à 11 h 26
Sujet:
Enough for Bo Too little Thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Zero chance of either Kasper or Edvinsson getting moved. Since when do rentals get anywhere near bluechip prospects?</div></div>
When you give him an extension right after the trade, the value goes up. Since it means that they could discuss with the player before the trade. They’re also the fact that he’s the biggest center available at the trade deadline
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 janv. 2023 à 12 h 19
Sujet:
Bo Horvat sign and trade
I think it's 1 piece too many. The 2nd or Johansson maybe both have to be taken out.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 janv. 2023 à 16 h 11
Sujet:
Ekholm and Labanc
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>I strongly doubt this but I recognize that the Panthers absolutely bamboozled the market for bottom-pair rental defenders last year. What more are the Canucks expecting beyond a 3rd round pick and a low-end prospect?</div></div>
If we take a look at some examples from last year, Jeremy Lauzon got a second round pick, Kulak got a second +
Luke Schenn is likely worth more than those. Canucks also got a third round pick for 3 million dollar Hamonic who was supposedly going to be a cap dump. I can't see Schenn being worth less than that
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 nov. 2022 à 18 h 14
Sujet:
Filling two needs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Seemed like more of a summer move. If the 2023 pick is after top-10 or so, I don’t think it would matter much to NJD.</div></div>
I simply don't see Demko being traded for anything but an absolute overpay. If you look at some of the comments our president Rutherford has made, he loves Demko. He views him as a franchise goalie and basically indirectly said he is the only person keeping our team relevant.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct. 2022 à 14 h 24
Sujet:
Realistic Fix
Can’t see Ottawa going for this. Top 4 is a much bigger need than more offence
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct. 2022 à 14 h 21
Sujet:
Realistic Fix
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Why would Edmonton move a roster player for a second round pick? News flash Edmonton ain't rebuilding or retooling.</div></div>
Cause they've been trying to since the start of the offseason. He's been in basically every trade rumor mill there is. I said a second because that's what the rumored asking price is.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 oct. 2022 à 12 h 25
Sujet:
Likeliest Horvat Destinations
As a pure rental there are lots of teams that would be interested. But VAN should maximize value by trying to deal him to a team that would want an extension in place. CBJ is a good fit for that, maybe WSH.
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