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Forum: Armchair-GM21 nov. 2023 à 18 h 13
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Rakell was not primarily a center with the Ducks. You're 100% wrong. If he started as one early in his career it was short-lived. He's been a winger for almost all his time in the NHL, so keep proving you have no clue what you're talking about.

Looking at Podzlokin's numbers is all I need. His AHL numbers are MID and do not track on NHL success and while I'm sure you're someone who doesn't like stats when they don't support your narrative, the AHL-to-NHL predictor based on AHL stats is pretty damn accurate and he's basically trending on the cusp. He's your Alex Nylander.

Second, yes, there was lots of fire around Miller and when the dust settled it was reported there were absolutely NO serious discussions. As for your "reporting" on Miller. I don't think you actually read the article. I didn't say there was no interest if you read my original statement. I said there was nothing close to serious discussions that happened and that's exactly what this article said. It said Hextall "flirted" with the idea. Maybe you don't know what flirted means and I'm beginning to question your reading abilities, but it was widely reported that we never close to getting Miller nor did any major discussions take place.

So yeah... keep it up.</div></div>

What conversion chart are you using? Dobbers' conversion system shows Podkolzin's AHL numbers to be at a 35-point pace in the NHL this season, which would have been good enough for 7th among Penguins forwards last season. Guess half your team is fringe NHLers then. Sorry about that. Also, look at his advanced stats in the NHL. Positive Corsi 5v5 as a 20 y/o, 21 y/o on a team that was in the basement. You don't get those numbers without having a strong two-way game. Podkolzin is worth more than you give him credit for. Saying he's worth more than a fringe defenseman who has aged out as being a prospect isn't overvaluing him. You're overvaluing your own players.

Also — no serious conversations? My guy, the Canucks and Penguins were having "heated discussions", and Sullivan was weighing his input on the potential trade. Let me ask you, if there wasn't any serious conversation happening, why would Hextall ask the coach his opinion on a potential trade? Why would Zucker's name be so synonymous with the potential Miller trade? If it's at the point where they have the names of players down and are asking coaching staff for their opinions, that is not the first phone call, it is the ninth or tenth in a series of discussions. Why would it go down to the 11th hour before the Penguins decided another route? Why was it being reported by every insider between Pittsburgh and Vancouver, by Friedman, LeBrun, Johnston, etc? C'mon man, the only person you're lying to is yourself.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 nov. 2023 à 0 h 58
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>So again, I didn't say this makes sense for you guys, but as I suspected you will all overvalue Podzlokin. Yeah, he's got a decent two-way game, but he's not trending to being a very productive NHL winger. POJ has regressed, I won't deny that, but I don't see a POJ/Podzlokin as being a very lopsided swap. If Podzlokin has more value than POJ, it's minimal simply because he's an unknown asset at this point. That said, the POJ/Miller thing was all complete BS. It was widely reported that the Miller discussions were nothing that got close to serious discussion; mere inquiries.

I agree that Rakell doesn't make much sense for you guys, but you do realize he's a winger and not a center, right?

I also suspect that the POJ/Podzlokin part was really just an ancillary part of the deal.</div></div>

Tell me you know nothing about Podkolzin without telling me you know nothing about Podkolzin.

If you think Podkolzin has the same value as POJ, then you wouldn't mind trading Sam Poulin for Noah Juulsen, right? 22-year-old winger for a mid-20s fringe NHL defenseman. It's a fair deal according to you.

It was reported that Pittsburgh was very much interested in Miller, it wasn't played down, it was because Sullivan refused to let Zucker be moved as part of the deal. That's how you ended up with Granlund. I don't understand why you're trying this revisionist history. It was literally reported by Penguins writers: https://theathletic.com/4542179/2023/05/24/pittsburgh-penguins-franchise-nhl-playoff-streak/

Rakell was a center when he was with the Ducks, haven't watched him since he was moved outside of the Conference.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 oct. 2023 à 12 h 14