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Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 21 h 28
Sujet: Habs 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>You dont need any D but thats another conversation
What i wanted to point out is Matheson-Guhle is our top pair most of the year
Savard went out Months blocking 3 shots in a row and gave Guhle basically the first half of the year there
Matheson doesnt get to 60 points IMO if any other Dman in our system players Mathesons RD.
We've seen it the last 2 years that Matheson doesnt play well with others a lot of the time.
He needs a guy capable of handling a lot of 2v1 and 3v1 when he turns over the puck or blows entries.

Guhle for that reason will be here long after Mathesons Traded
Guhle is everything we need him to be at such an early age where he's just Reacting .
Give him space to lead with Matheson and Savard gone , it'll be like with Suter and Weber left NSH leading to the rise of Josi, Ellis and Ekholm</div></div>

I disagree now some players don’t mind playing on their off side but they are at a definite disadvantage. Trying to hold the puck in the player on their forehand is going to win that battle more times than not. You can put your ass to the boards and stop it with your skate and leg but then it’s really hard to make a play from that position. You are basically waiting for another player to come along and dig it out. In the defensive zone along the boards you run in to the same problems. Plus clearing the puck up the boards becomes a problem because your constantly hitting the boards at an unfavorable angle and instead of going up the boards the puck pops out to the middle of the of the zone where the defenseman on the other side or a back checking forward can easily turn it in to a quality scoring opportunity. When it comes to hockey IQ it’s almost negligible. Let’s use Guhle as an example. He has a high hockey IQ and wether he’s in the 1st or 2nd pair he’s going to be seeing a lot of the other teams 1st and 2nd lines and most of them have high hockey IQs as well. You can’t tell me that a top 6 winger isn’t looking at a defenseman on his side and seeing that as a weakness he can exploit. If you were to poll GMs and coaches I think a lot of them would rather have RHDs on the right and LHDs on the left especially in their 1st and 2nd pairs. Sometimes they are forced to play defensemen on their off side like with the Wings last season after trading Hronek we didn’t have another NHL ready RHD so Chariot played on the right side. With Montreal this season Guhle on his off side is still better than any of your other RHDs except Savard so it makes sense to play him on the right. But if Montreal had a choice they would prefer him on the left.

Would Guhle play above all our current LHDs probably every one but Edvinsson and we do have some very good LHDs in our system. But upgrading a position that is set, when we have holes in other spots that desperately need attention would be poor roster management . As I've been saying about trading for Chychrun, it's a luxury we can't afford right now and it applies to Guhle as well.
Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 11 h 41
Sujet: Bold move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Depends on the pick
After the top 10-15 its more of a crapshoot
Its why those picks are most often kept cause they can generate enough value to move them most drafts.
Picks 20-40 there usually isnt a big divide on but this year that expands out into the top 60 as we have players from all systems overachieving and joining this draft class.
Its much like the 2003 draft due to all the defensive quality that goes quite deep and if moving down 6 spots gets me two top 60 picks in this draft i'd do it if im LAK with so many prospects gone after the PLD trade and Turcotte always injured since turning Pro a year too early. This could give LAK some depth pack in the coming years</div></div>

That's some very generic reasoning that is very tilted to a Montreal perspective in this trade. Every draft is a "deep draft" to the team that wants to trade extra picks to move up. I'd still much rather pick quality over quantity. You'd need something much closer to the late 30's/early 40's if there was an interest in moving up into the top-20 from LA. Not late 50's.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Depends on the pick
<strong><em>That said i'd still add Harris or Struble for Turcotte</em></strong> to make you guys feel like you got the better end
For MTL there's value in Turcotte as a Career AHLer if thats his destiny as thats where his dad made his impact in MTL
Without his Dad breaking in all the new guys on the 1986 Cup team that got promoted to the NHL from the AHL , you wouldnt see a cup in MTL
The Legacy of that will sell tickets and put butts in seats giving MTL something their AHL team can build on if Coach Houle can get him healthy with Franky B's help.
But i doubt that LAK are in Panic mode just yet over Turcotte. Once Camp comes and goes with him requiring Waivers they'll feel differently </div></div>

With regards to the bolded part of your quote -- You and every other Montreal fan on here. Just like the responses on their boards, the Kings don't have an interest in Harris or Struble. Neither of them play over Anderson, Gavrikov, or Englund.

In addition, LA is certainly not prepared to give up on Turcotte. They recognize his development problems have been injury related, not skill related. Even this year, he played on the top line with Kopitar and Byfield. He will make the team out of camp next year, there won't be a need to worry about waivers. His ceiling might not be what they hoped, but he has shown when he's healthy he's a middle-6'er at the NHL level. And the Kings will need his lower cap hit to help fill out the rest of the roster.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>
They could just leverage it to off load PLD though before his NMC kicked in over the next 4/7 remaining years he has left at 8.5m to be slightly more consistent then Gallagher offensively
MTL might take him on without RS despite even in his best year not being worth 8.5m but that would have to be for a top 20 pick this year outright, no exchange
LAK once that NMC kicks in puts themselves in a bad position if PLD hits another Career low which even at 19 entering one the NHL's worst Franchises in history still didnt sink this low. In MTL though in front of his Family and Friends he'll either succeed or he'll be bought out and forever shamed as the cap hit would last forever.</div></div>

Lol. I'm not fan of PLD, by any means. But they aren't going to pay a 1st round pick just to off-load someone who automatically becomes your 2nd line center. If he was being paid 5-6mil nobody would be batting an eye at his production. That means he's overpaid by 2.5-3.5mil, not 8.5mil. He's a pain to have to deal with in terms of cap, but LA is more than likely stuck with him.
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 22 h 15
Sujet: Expectation
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>Can we just save these dumb comments from Ducks fans, Canes fans, Panthers fa..ah ok they may be just trolls. Because the Habs have all this cap space with everyone signed and 12 picks in 1st 3 rounds in '24 '25 while other teams are capped out.
You have to be homer not to see the opportunity on the other side and lack of leverage ala Devin Toews whom the Isles had the deal with their cap issues. Everyone knew he was very good!

Something will happen because the salary cap exists and these homer fans are going to look silly, AGAIN, after Newhook and Dach, while Hawks and Avs fans were demanding 2 plus 1sts on each.

Someone create a spreadsheet with a delusion algorithm</div></div>

Sorry but Canes fans would break it as soon as they started claiming Necas (whose career average is 55 points) is worth Slaf or Caufield +, that has gotten be the stupidest thing anyone on this site has ever claimed. Domi with his 72 point season at the same age Necas' 71 points season must be able to return McDavid + Draisaitl + Bouchard by now then!
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 18 h 27
Sujet: hronek
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Even Big Game Dave was surprised he survived the TDL and said Hughes was very open about it.
That said Kovacevic it doesnt appear he really talked too much with either cause their wasnt a market or he see's Slafkovsky's and Xhekaj's Best Friend as the right mentor.
Matheson i think he'll move but he'll wait til the final year and RS if its what is required to get a 1st plus a valuable Prospect as is his style

Im more Worried the fact he coached Harris and Struble as kids and they mentored his and MSL sons in NCAA years later will have an impact on us being willing to move them.
Harris cant grow in this system at this point even if we removed all the Vet's it would simply save Struble not him.
Strubles like 14 games from requiring Waivers and is a bottom pair special teams Dman or at best #4-5 D like Alzner was before he left WSH and his life fell apart

Decisions have to be made though as Engstrom is Wirey and while he listens to Coaches overall very well when it comes to slowing down , enjoying the ride and living his life outside hockey/training he ignores them. It got to the point they locked him out of the Training Facilities i believe it was last fall? Dude never stops training and shows up before the staff 6-7am and leaves last. If he does that for Coach Houle in Laval he'll rise quickly as Houle is that "you earn your minutes" Coach who was about to send Mailloux to the AHL before Xhekaj saved his season.</div></div>

I’m not super worried about Kovacevic/Harris/struble and I think a few will probably be traded. I’m mostly concerned about Hughes’ relationship with Matheson and screwing over Guhle because of it. So if he’s insistent on keeping Matheson I’d rather they just trade Guhle this summer for some good assets (hopefully a vet RHD or some high end prospects/pick).

We could end up with:

Matheson - vet RHD
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Mailloux/Engstrom
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 17 h 56
Sujet: hronek
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Here and requires Waivers
Matheson
Savard
Kovacevic
Harris
Struble in like 14 games?

Players that dont require Waivers but have a year or a less then a years worth of games.

Guhle
Barron
Xhekaj

Players in the NHL or AHL now succeeding or Joining this year

Mailloux
Hutson
Reinbacher
Engstrom who's waiting in the SHL Finals for his opponent after a 4 game sweep in the ECF. Regardless of the Finish he said he'll join Laval on their Playoff Run

Players set to join us in 2 seasons +

Kostenko who after a decent KHL outing as a 19 year old he went to their AHL league version and became a top 10 D in that league .
Konyuskov is a 22 year old Captain of a KHL team playing 22+ minutes a night and became a consistently offensive player especially on special teams.

We need rid of our Veterans TBH
Xhekaj-Mailloux was a hell of a pairing in Laval , i expect that will continue in the NHL
Maybe keep Kovacevic around and re-sign him cheap to help Guhle and Xhekaj lead the team</div></div>

I would love to get rid of our veterans I just don’t believe that management does.
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 17 h 47
Sujet: Habs 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>You dont need any D but thats another conversation
What i wanted to point out is Matheson-Guhle is our top pair most of the year
Savard went out Months blocking 3 shots in a row and gave Guhle basically the first half of the year there
Matheson doesnt get to 60 points IMO if any other Dman in our system players Mathesons RD.
We've seen it the last 2 years that Matheson doesnt play well with others a lot of the time.
He needs a guy capable of handling a lot of 2v1 and 3v1 when he turns over the puck or blows entries.

Guhle for that reason will be here long after Mathesons Traded
Guhle is everything we need him to be at such an early age where he's just Reacting .
Give him space to lead with Matheson and Savard gone , it'll be like with Suter and Weber left NSH leading to the rise of Josi, Ellis and Ekholm</div></div>

It's still not worth giving up Raymond. Who at this point is pretty much untouchable!
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 16 h 47
Sujet: Habs 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>You dont need any D but thats another conversation
What i wanted to point out is Matheson-Guhle is our top pair most of the year
Savard went out Months blocking 3 shots in a row and gave Guhle basically the first half of the year there
Matheson doesnt get to 60 points IMO if any other Dman in our system players Mathesons RD.
We've seen it the last 2 years that Matheson doesnt play well with others a lot of the time.
He needs a guy capable of handling a lot of 2v1 and 3v1 when he turns over the puck or blows entries.

Guhle for that reason will be here long after Mathesons Traded
Guhle is everything we need him to be at such an early age where he's just Reacting .
Give him space to lead with Matheson and Savard gone , it'll be like with Suter and Weber left NSH leading to the rise of Josi, Ellis and Ekholm</div></div>

I don’t disagree, I see him as chip to get a very good top 6 forward (which we may not have in the system). I like your point even and appreciate how well he performed on the right side.

If we draft someone like Sam Dickinson this year, we may have a true number 1 LHD.