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Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 janv. à 16 h 45
Sujet:
Lets rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zmach</b></div><div>i think i would send Kulak before Barrie. Bouchard isn't progressing as fast as would like. keeping him on 3rd pairing will keep his AAV down.</div></div>
Stunting Bouchard for the sake of his AAV is pretty short sighted when you consider what adding Ekholm would represent. Bouchard is exceeding Barrie in essentially all metrics besides TOI (they're virtually equal), GF%, HDGF%, and PDO, where Bouchard is on the cooler of the century. Despite the eye test and the current sophomore slump, Bouchard has still been the better bet for a sweeping majority of the season. His future here is hopefully going to be far longer. Barrie is going to need to be moved now or next season regardless of what Bouchard's AAV ends up being: he's too rich a luxury to have on the back end. Too many additional pieces have to move out in order to accommodate keeping Barrie on the team long-term. This is the kind of deal the Oilers should be making to fill that canyon currently occupying the #2LD and if it means you have to just buck up and give Bouchard the keys to being our premiere puck-moving righty, then bite that bullet.
I don't think Bouchard has played with a player of Ekholm's calibre beyond Nurse, and those numbers speak highly for the Oilers' pairing. Mattias is a mega upgrade on any of Broberg, Koekkoek, Kulak, Lagesson, Murray, Niemelainen, Russell, or any other left-shooting player previously paired with Bouchard. Ekholm's status as the kind of defenceman he is - in theory at least - should push Evan's numbers back to the levels they were with Duncan Keith, but at the benefit of Edmonton possessing a defenceman far superior to Keith. The Oilers can just as well turn around after making this deal and acquire a Schenn-type to pull back on Evan's zone starts and/or PK time. He doesn't need to be coddled by Barrie.
<a href="/users/GeauxPreds1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@GeauxPreds1</a> ultimately I'd be close to agreeing on a deal like this but I would much rather sacrifice futures over Bourgault: the Puljujarvi and Yamamoto experiments have ultimately failed and with Lavoie's status as a legitimate prospect waning by the day, Bourgault and Tullio emerge as some of the hardest prospects for Edmonton to consider moving. Likewise I think Edmonton should be all over Sissons with some large degree of retention. Currently I'm trying to get an AGM with the following up and running:
:oilers
Receive:
(LD) Mattias Ekholm
(RC) Colton Sissons (50% retained)
2024 3rd Round Pick (NSH)
:predators
Receive:
(RD) Tyson Barrie
(LW) Maxim Berezkin
(LD) Philip Broberg
(LW) Warren Foegele
2023 1st Round Pick (EDM)
2024 1st Round Pick (EDM)
Two of Edmonton's biggest needs right now are a defensive RHC and a quality LHD: moving Broberg to fill the latter hole would suggest a want for term and the names that really interest me are Chychrun, Ekholm, and Provorov. Ekholm and Sissons fill those roles beautifully and should look to solidify Edmonton's two-way game and PK but I feel like Edmonton may be giving up a hair too much based on your ask for Ekholm and Jeannot, whom I value far more than Sissons.
My proposed trade is almost a wash in terms of the salary cap and I would hopefully think that Nashville puts some stock in having actual NHL bodies to come back in this deal as a lot of the contracts currently in Nashville (Duchene, Forsberg, Johansson, Josi, McDonagh, Saros, and Tomasino specifically) would suggest that there would be a desire to remain competitive next season and onwards. The Fabbro experiment probably ends similarly to how you've proposed above and the jury is out on whether or not either Granlund or Niederreiter are actually moved, so having proper NHL pieces accompany the picks and prospects brought back by making moves for tomorrow can at least keep the Predators' wagon moving in that "could make a run for it" direction.
Forum:
NHL
3 janv. à 17 h 28
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Looking at his stats, he looked pretty promising as a prospect. Why did he never pan out?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McGruff</b></div><div>I'm not sure - mattfan, mondo, doyle & co. will enlighten...?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DucharmetheDOMinator</b></div><div>He's one of those that never got to play in the nhl because Mike Babcock.</div></div>
I thought it's cause his skating was only so-so
Forum:
NHL
3 janv. à 16 h 56
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div><div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Friedman on TJMS talking Leafs: "One of the guys I was wondering about who I think would be a perfect fit for them potentially is a guy like Timo Meier".</p>— NHL Watcher (@NHL_Watcher) <a href="https://twitter.com/NHL_Watcher/status/1610379859385098243?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote>
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kerfoot, engvall and a 4th should cover it</div></div>
I miss the days of Dermott, Bracco, and a second for the world.
Forum:
NHL
3 janv. à 11 h 32
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div><div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources say <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sjsharks?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#sjsharks</a> have made 2018 first-round pick D Ryan Merkley available. Merkley recently requested a trade and Sharks are trying to accommodate.Merkley, 22, has played 39 NHL games and still has waiver eligibility.<a href="https://twitter.com/DailyFaceoff?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">@DailyFaceoff</a></p>— Frank Seravalli (@frank_seravalli) <a href="https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1610306003710476288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Prospect with major attitude problems from his junior days requests trade at 22... big surprise.</div></div>
I'm thinking Boston would be eager to step up. They have the players to command respect and some change out of Merkley and would both benefit miles from adding a young scoring RHD.
Forum:
NHL
31 déc. 2022 à 0 h 25
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilersguy</b></div><div>Dubas can't put together team that makes it past the 1st round</div></div>
Rent free
Forum:
NHL
29 déc. 2022 à 9 h 8
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness
I really appreciate the enthusiasm for this year's world juniors but we have a whole thread for it just next door.
Please reserve this thread for the suffering of Canucks, Habs, and Blue Jackets fans. Thanks.
Forum:
NHL
26 déc. 2022 à 15 h 52
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness
Did I miss something or does Hayes for Girard not make a ton of sense for both clubs involved? Especially of Philly is dead-set on shopping Provorov too...?
Forum:
NHL
26 déc. 2022 à 11 h 44
Sujet:
Team Canada Scandal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>Is there a date for any trials on this? Or do we still not know?</div></div>
Anything of that nature will likely follow the conclusion of the London police investigation. I would suspect early January once most everybody is finished with the holidays.
Forum:
The Box
25 déc. 2022 à 18 h 31
Sujet:
Christmas 2023 Haul Thread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>Two video games
Dallas Stars calendar and license plate cover or whatever you call it
Book about the Edmonton Oilers draft stories
Clothes
Candy
Money and gift cards
Massage gun
32” television
Donut mug (inside joke by my brother)
That’s about it, I think.</div></div>
Enjoy the Lowetide book, I'll be starting mine when I get home from work in January. He writes as if he's telling a story, a narrative, and there are tons of allegories to media from his childhood. One of my favourite writers.
Forum:
NHL
25 déc. 2022 à 10 h 32
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/662300">Flaunt your Christmas swag here</a>
Forum:
The Box
25 déc. 2022 à 10 h 32
Sujet:
Christmas 2023 Haul Thread
User that got the best gifts from Santa wins. Merry merry from CapFriendly to all!
Forum:
NHL
21 déc. 2022 à 13 h 7
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Per Friedman
CBJ wants a 1st + 3rd or 4th for Gavrikov
Oilers are heavily interested
If Holland can get him and work on an extension price is fine. I know his stats have been bad but this was in the bad CBJ era. To me Edmunson makes a bit more sense as he also adds the toughness they want but hey both be cheaper than Chycrun whose also on Edmonton's radar</div></div>
Edmunson is also a very poor defender and shouldn't be what Edmonton is targeting.
Gavrikov hasn't fared much better either this year and I'd prefer Chychrun strictly because of the term but anything helps at this point. If they must go the CBJ route, I'd like Gus too.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 déc. 2022 à 22 h 18
Sujet:
Everything but the Kitchen Sink
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Ken Holland can't make one trade, let alone expecting him to make four trades with very little cap space.</div></div>
Can you show me where it's written in CapFriendly's rules that each and every AGM must abide by the habits of that club's GM? Or can you quit being a pedantic ass and actually offer some fair criticism within the realm of my control?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 déc. 2022 à 22 h 10
Sujet:
Everything but the Kitchen Sink
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Why? Because Ken Holland doesn't have what it would take to make these kinds of trades. You're honestly expecting the guy to do the unexpected here.</div></div>
So your critique of the above AGM is...?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 déc. 2022 à 21 h 58
Sujet:
Everything but the Kitchen Sink
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheeDjeeEem</b></div><div>Chych > that whole package plus another 1st which would all be 30+ and those result in mid 6 players on average like your average prospects anyway
EDM doesn't have the trade assets for Chych.
Call CBJ, ANA, or Philly, isn't Ken close with StevY of Detroix?</div></div>
The above package is probably more than any team in the league is capable of offering: the teams rumoured to be genuinely interested in Chychrun all have Stanley Cup aspirations, your argument regarding draft pick quality is moot. You're essentially offering that the first round picks of any team guaranteed to make the second round are worthless. What a stupid take.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Ken Holland doesn't have what it takes, To make these kinds of offers. We're talking about a GM who only made 30 trades in over a 35 years career.</div></div>
What does any of that have to do with the above AGM? Despite all aspirations, I'm not Ken Hollland. Infuriating perhaps that this is a very complete roster that legitimately pushes Edmonton into the contender conversation and the current GM lacks the gall to make these trades?
Forum:
NHL
20 déc. 2022 à 18 h 5
Sujet:
Team Canada Scandal
A gentle reminder that nobody is to start naming names until actual trials are held, please and thanks.
Forum:
Site Discussion
16 déc. 2022 à 1 h 35
Sujet:
Has anybody had an issue with a spam "Google Customer" ad?
Got hit with two more tonight. One on page 10 of the current NHL discussion thread and another when opening the Site Duscussion forums.
Forum:
Site Discussion
10 déc. 2022 à 13 h 58
Sujet:
Has anybody had an issue with a spam "Google Customer" ad?
I ran into one on page 37 of the current NHL discussion thread while on mobile.
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
10 déc. 2022 à 13 h 57
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs 2022 season Discussion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Fair enough, but by eyes i meant leaf fans lol.
Again, never seen or heard of this limit. I follow both threads so its not that big a deal but i think you're crazy lol</div></div>
We've had to close every major discussion thread for the past year and a half at about 50 pages because these forums can't handle discussion threads much larger. Forums built on something like a Xenforo platform could, more storage, memory etc.
Please start a new thread.
Forum:
NHL
9 déc. 2022 à 17 h 17
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #6: No More Summer of Dorion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DucharmetheDOMinator</b></div><div><div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's a deep dive on a player the Oilers have genuine interest in. He may cost EDM Xavier Bourgault, but the window is the window. <a href="https://t.co/fy1QcPGhRr" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://t.co/fy1QcPGhRr</a></p>— Mark Spector🇨🇦🇺🇦 (@SportsnetSpec) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsnetSpec/status/1600975188459651072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">December 8, 2022</a></blockquote>
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don't shoot the messenger</div></div>
Not until you start parading the Bourgault and a 2nd AGMs
Forum:
NHL
13 nov. 2022 à 16 h 9
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #4: Just Keefe Drowning
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>damn that's crazy; could've had both of them.</div></div>
I could have sworn there was a rule where teams were only allowed ONE good prospect/player on their team at a time and that having insane depth was a bad thing.
Bring in Lucic, dump Hall. Bring in Puljujarvi, dump Eberle. Can't take Zegras because we already had 3 centers. Can't have Wallstedt because we had Skinner.
It's all brainrot in Edmonton. Thank god Bourgault looks legit.
Forum:
NHL
13 nov. 2022 à 12 h 33
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #4: Just Keefe Drowning
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Jesper Wallstedt scored a goal in AHL lol</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div><div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨GOALIE GOAL🚨Jesper Wallstedt hits the empty net. Love it! <a href="https://t.co/NntlTsiyKA" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">pic.twitter.com/NntlTsiyKA</a></p>— /Cam Robinson/ (@Hockey_Robinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hockey_Robinson/status/1591636606909575168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">November 13, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Still cant believe a certain team traded down rather than draft him
This kid is special</div></div>
By God thats <a href="/users/BeterChiarelli" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@BeterChiarelli</a>'s music
Forum:
GM Game 2019-20
10 nov. 2022 à 21 h 35
Sujet:
V5 General Chatter
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jmac490</b></div><div>Apologies Chiarelli.
Clarification of the rules caused the argument, we're trying to work through it off site.
Apologies again that it progressed over to CF. We'll continue to try and be better for the future.</div></div>
Please update me once a resolution is reached.
Forum:
GM Game 2019-20
10 nov. 2022 à 20 h 52
Sujet:
V5 General Chatter
If you guys aren't interested in resolving whatever the hell this devolved into within the next 24 hours there won't be a CapFriendly-sponsored GM game.
Too much of this happens off-site and there are routinely issues regarding who can and can't play, actual cyberbulling, and now whatever this butthurt nonsense is. I'll see if Banks can work on setting some sort of infrastructure up such that you guys can keep the game to CapFriendly but the issues with the GM Game need to stop. If you guys want an old boys circlejerk then keep it off this site. As far as I'm concerned the "banning" of users from participating is stupid regardless of the reasons why. It's getting cliquey. We can't adequately enforce our rules when that mob mentality takes over on an external site and the moderation of this section is already extremely loose.
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NHL
5 nov. 2022 à 20 h 5
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #4: Just Keefe Drowning
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>capsfan2121</b></div><div>is there a particular trade that is personal for you with like your favorite player or how it affect the team. something like that. whats a trade that hits hard to you personally
for me its the daneil sprong trade. they traded my favorite player</div></div>
I can never forgive Kevin Lowe for trading Smyth over what amounted to like a $100k discrepancy in contract negotiations.
Nor can I forgive him for not trading Mike Comrie for Correy Perry.
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