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Forum: NHLlun. à 19 h 0
Sujet: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
NHL Executive Committe <a href="https://www.sportico.com/leagues/hockey/2024/nhl-exec-committee-approves-coyotes-move-salt-lake-city-1234775401/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Approves Coyotes Move</a> to Salt Lake City

I 100% think that the NHL should have to pay 50% of that into the player's escrow account.

For 2 years while Arizona was allowed to play in Mullett Arena with less than 5,000 capacity seats the drop in Hockey-Related Revenue was anywhere between $80 million (lowest average attendance) and $120 million (average NHL attendance) for the 82 games played there based on average NHL ticket price of $110.00 each. Split the difference at $100 million and the players should get half of the ownership relocation fee.

The NHLPA and players had no say, no veto power, and no formal way to force NHL teams to have adequate facilites/arenas. If I were the NHLPA I would fight this tooth and nail and even if I lost I would set the expectation that the next CBA will be much more player friendly across the board.
Forum: NHL8 avr. à 11 h 24
Sujet: Who's your MVP for the 2023-24 season: McDavid or Any Other Player...???
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I think you're forgetting another stat Matthews has that's a little more important... I think it's _0 that he's chasing... Or is it potentially having the most hat-tricks in a single season since Wayne Gretzky?

Or is it doing all that while being Toronto's shutdown player? And a Selke caliber defensive player (nobody has ever won the Selke while scoring 60+, Matthews can win it while scoring 70+)

Either way, it's not only having 100+ points</div></div>

70 goals would be an awesome achievement for sure, it's only been done 14 times in history by 8 different players, and not since 92-93 when Mogilny and Selanne scored 76 each.

But McDavid is on pace to score 110 assists, which has only been done 9 times by 2 different players: Gretzky (8x) and Lemieux. The last time 110 assists was achieved was 90-91 by Wayne Gretzky.

Pretty incredible that McDavid and Matthews are chasing numbers we haven't seen in 30 years.
Forum: Site Discussion27 mars à 13 h 45
Forum: NHL25 févr. à 8 h 34
Sujet: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyScotty</b></div><div>Gibson had a decent start to the season but he has fallen off big time since then. He is nowhere near the tier of goaltender to be in that conversation. With his contract he is negative value to any team and there is no debate; you won't find any "eye-test" or analytics to support an argument to the contrary. 2-3 years ago, maybe.

Markstrom and Saros are elite goalies playing like elite goalies through adverse situations. Saros is younger, lower AAV, and less term so he would be the primary target unless a team is hung up on size. Markstrom is right there with him but his contract is bigger, he's older but he also has more term. Ullmark has to be in the mix at this top tier; one of the best overall goalies in the league the last few years; workload has been managed well; contract is decent. Boston needs help in other areas and think they have full faith in Swayman; come elimination game in a playoff series you can only play one goalie so the tandem doesn't help you in crunch time.

Lindgren would be next in the conversation, in my book. He is UFA after this year and Caps have Kuemper long term with several decent players in the minors needing to move up. Lindgren could snag them valuable forward assets they need. I actually think that Boston would go after him if they move Ullmark. Binnington with retention would be right around here due to the baggage he brings and his inconsistency lately.

Blackwood and Kahkonen would slot in behind those guys in league perception and we start to get into the "tweeners" that are best as a duo/tandem/1A-1B platoon rather than full time starters. Merzlikins might be right with these guys or below; it's hard to tell they way teams perceive him right now; but his deal is tougher to take on but CBJ can retain to make him affordable. Gibson (with retention) would fit in this tier (his best play this year was when he and Dostal formed a tandem in rotating starts).

Marc-Andre Fleury would be in the "1B/Backup" group along with guys like Jake Allen, Anton Forsberg, James Reimer, and even Alex Nedeljkovic would be available if Penguins fall out of it.

The only thing that will delay the market and lower the price is that there is such a pretty high supply of good goaltenders on the market; but cap management and playing style fits will dictate the moves.</div></div>

Lindgren has the eternal benefit of being weird handed and confusing every shooter trying to go glove high on his blocker side. Perhaps that’s an excellent playoff backup for a deep run. Great way to mix up a series, as it changes your breakout and coverage to defaulting to the goalies forehand side, and maybe disrupts high end shooters who may instinctually be aiming under/above the glove. You have to wonder if that improperly held his career back. I guess it’s possible he belongs in a much higher tier of goalie than he’s considered to be.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. à 7 h 4
Sujet: Thank you dougbrady214
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>This is a poor take that far too many people adopt.

Using prorated values, Ottawa is sending more than $1.59M in actual cap back to Dallas. They only have LTIR room for up to $1.52M. The prorated value of just Lundkvist returning is $207k: the Stars don't have the necessary cap space to facilitate this trade without a UFA being returned in this deal or shed by other means. Hakanpaa is only owed a prorated $336k: if you believe Ottawa needs anything of value to be convinced to take on less than half a million dollars in owed money you're out to lunch. Seeing those numbers now, the Stars don't actually have enough cap space to make this deal work unless Ottawa takes back more or they find a way to scrape another $473k.

If the piece returned has term, then yes, the acquiring team should be owed an asset. On an expiring deal needed to facilitate the deal? Piss off.</div></div>
Don't blame the poster, it's because some dummies created this whole narrative that every $ taken needs to be compensated.

Not saying the narrative didn't start before but last summer for example, Sens were tight to the cap and everyone thought they needed to "dump" someone to be able to sign Pinto (who was going to be suspended but we weren't aware of it yet). There was Mathieu Joseph and his 2.95 AAV who was a candidate to be moved as he didn't have a great season in 2022-23 (which was injury related). Even then, it wasn't like he was a big cap dump because he was still an useful player. The asking prices on this site were all over the place, some were asking a 1st+ to take 3 years x 2.95 AAV and a decent 3rd liner...

There was this Flyers fan that I haven't seen lately who was proposing to retain 50% on Scott Laughton (3.0 AAV) to take on Joseph and solve Ottawa's problem. He was asking a 1st + 1st + 2nd value (so (over) value for Laughton AND value to take on Joseph ANCHOR of a contract). lol so how is it possible for the bulk of the posters to understand the way "cap dumping" works when there's constantly super stupid stuff like that?

I was repeating that "<em>it's not how it works</em>" and that Joseph was a better player than Scott freaking Laughton anyway but this dude and a bunch of others were louder and my intervention didn't really work, except on a few maybe. That's the problem and it's the same thing in society, idiocracy is much louder than reasonable people.

For all my time spent on this site, yes in general people don't have a good grasp on how this cap dumping works and at the deadline it's just one aspect
Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 19 h 27
Sujet: Thank you dougbrady214
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>This is a poor take that far too many people adopt.

Using prorated values, Ottawa is sending more than $1.59M in actual cap back to Dallas. They only have LTIR room for up to $1.52M. The prorated value of just Lundkvist returning is $207k: the Stars don't have the necessary cap space to facilitate this trade without a UFA being returned in this deal or shed by other means. Hakanpaa is only owed a prorated $336k: if you believe Ottawa needs anything of value to be convinced to take on less than half a million dollars in owed money you're out to lunch. Seeing those numbers now, the Stars don't actually have enough cap space to make this deal work unless Ottawa takes back more or they find a way to scrape another $473k.

If the piece returned has term, then yes, the acquiring team should be owed an asset. On an expiring deal needed to facilitate the deal? Piss off.</div></div>

Ottawa could easily flip Hakanpaa too.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 13 h 4
Sujet: How we feeling about this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>$2.5M seems highly unrealistic: you'd be asking the player to take a pay cut when the cap is about to take its biggest jump in recent memory. Likewise, Foegele has a back-loaded deal and is going to want to stay at or above that $3.25M mark he's currently at for this season. That's just human nature.

I'm expecting him to sign somewhere between the cap percentages of Lustorainen and Vatrano. That's going to see him earning anywhere between $3.15M to $3.85M on an $87.7M salary cap, probably on a three year deal. It feels rich for a 15G/20A player but he's always had strong possession metrics, can skate, and has picked up some PK utility in Edmonton. He's an ideal third-line forward for a team that can afford him.</div></div>

100%, I think a realistic amount for him is 3.5M for 3, but it depends on him as a person.
Maybe he likes playing in EDM or with Drai/McD or that he is likely closest to a cup on EDM and thus takes a pay cut; again though, this is my wishful thinking.