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This thread is for discussion and voting between BOG members only.

We ask that other GMs do not post anything in this thread so that the BOG can keep things organized and other GMs can easily see what the BOG is currently up to.

If you have any questions of complaints that you want to submit to the BOG, please use the Board Of General Managers Official Thread.


BOG Members:
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TonyStrecher
DarylthePony
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BOG Agenda:

- Set up a plan for College FAs and Second Wave NHL FA
- Work on recruiting active AGMs
- Discuss GM Game Awards


Current BOG Votes:
9 sept. 2017 à 10 h 0
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Training Camp / Opening Day Rosters

In order for everyone to set their opening day 23 man roster and deal with some players who will not be under NHL contract this season.
Your 23 man roster and any relevant "discrepancies" and player removals will be dealt with at this time.

First Step: Removal of players
Only players that fall under one or more of these conditions will be eligible to be removed from your roster/cap.

1. Was not under contract IRL when retiring - Off your roster and off your books
2. Was under contract IRL when retiring - Off your roster and off your books UNLESS they were on a 35+ contract, where the full cap hit will still apply.
2b. Cap recapture penalties, if applicable, would also apply.
3. Left for another league (regardless of contract status) - The rights to the player will remain on your books, but the cap hit will be reduced to league minimum. (Markov, Andrei $5.5M x 2 years becomes (R) Markov, Andrei $650k x 2 years). If such player returns prior to the term expiring, you may re-sign them to match their IRL contract. If you choose not to, they will be placed on waivers under the same conditions. You may not keep them as "Rights" unless they clear waivers.
4. LTIR situations will be dealt with at the same time if possible. Obvious ones will be approved, but some will have to wait until their RL team puts them on LTIR, which is the only way we can confirm their status.

Teams will provide a list of names, along with the condition that applies to them. Be aware that only Capfriendly confirmed cases may be submitted at this time.
You will have the option to remove players under these same conditions if they are confirmed at a later date, this is only to get the bulk of the currently confirmed cases dealt with.

Second Step: Waiver Exempt non-roster players
Players who will not be part of your opening day roster may be sent to the minors, provided they are currently exempt from waivers.

1. Teams will bring ALL of their players up to their main roster.
2. Players may not be sent down at this point.
3. Teams will submit a list of waiver exempt players they wish to send down. Only after confirmation and approval can they be moved.
4. Teams will submit a list of the remaining players they wish to send down. These players will be placed on waivers and eligible to be claimed. Players who clear waivers may be sent down. Players who are claimed will be removed from your roster instead.
5. The players that remain on your roster at this point will be your opening day roster. You must have at least 20 players on your roster at all times, including a minimum of 12 forwards, 6 defense, and 2 goalies.
6. You must also be cap compliant. Your roster will be checked once it is set (there will be a temporary freeze to prevent changes until calculations are complete).

Third Step: In-season activity
Once your roster is compliant, it must remain compliant throughout the season.
In-season waivers will be instituted. Call ups and/or send downs will have to be posted for waiver purposes. (Details to follow)
Any movement which results in exceeding roster or cap restrictions, must be immediately followed by a movement that corrects the overage/shortage.


Any details I'm missing?
10 sept. 2017 à 1 h 53
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A trade between OTT and PIT can't happen as WWTC thinks/thought he had Max Reinhart but I signed him at free agency time.
10 sept. 2017 à 12 h 36
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A trade between OTT and PIT can't happen as WWTC thinks/thought he had Max Reinhart but I signed him at free agency time.


Was this in the first or second wave?
10 sept. 2017 à 12 h 39
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A trade between OTT and PIT can't happen as WWTC thinks/thought he had Max Reinhart but I signed him at free agency time.


Was this in the first or second wave?


First
10 sept. 2017 à 12 h 44
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Was this in the first or second wave?


First


Check the RFA signings thread and make sure he wasn't signed by somebody?
If he isn't in that thread, he was not under contract to anyone and you signed him as a free agent, so he's yours.
10 sept. 2017 à 12 h 46
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Quoting: ricochetii
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First


Check the RFA signings thread and make sure he wasn't signed by somebody?
If he isn't in that thread, he was not under contract to anyone and you signed him as a free agent, so he's yours.


He couldn't have signed as an RFA. He was an international free agent.
10 sept. 2017 à 12 h 56
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Check the RFA signings thread and make sure he wasn't signed by somebody?
If he isn't in that thread, he was not under contract to anyone and you signed him as a free agent, so he's yours.


He couldn't have signed as an RFA. He was an international free agent.


Then why did We_Want_The_Cup infer that he had rights to Max Reinhart?
10 sept. 2017 à 13 h 5
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Quoting: Bo53Horvat


He couldn't have signed as an RFA. He was an international free agent.


I checked in the RFA signings and didn't find him.

He was an RFA though. The Flames qualified him in 2015, but he elected to go overseas rather than accept, so the Flames still owned his rights at that point I believe.
It's moot because he's a UFA now. He only appears on Ottawa's roster right now because they signed him IRL this season, which took place after the start of the GM Game, so Ottawa has no claim to him.

Edit:
Looks like they just fixed it ... new trade:

Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup
Pittsburgh Penguins:
Receive:
Ben Sexton

Ottawa Senators:
Receive:
Patrick Wiercioch
10 sept. 2017 à 13 h 29
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Just a heads up, I am resigning from v1 as GM and BOG member. I don't have time for two GM Games, so I think it's time for me to move on. I'll stick around until v2 of course, and I'm willing to stay as Montreal GM until a replacement is found for me.
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10 sept. 2017 à 18 h 41
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Quoting: DarylthePony
Just a heads up, I am resigning from v1 as GM and BOG member. I don't have time for two GM Games, so I think it's time for me to move on. I'll stick around until v2 of course, and I'm willing to stay as Montreal GM until a replacement is found for me.


Fair enough. Thanks. smile
12 sept. 2017 à 12 h 6
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Are we good to release the following items that have been under discussion and/or already passed voting?

ITEM 1

Quoting: ricochetii

Board Of General Managers (BOG)

The BOG is an elected seven member representative group who are willing and able to dedicate the time and effort necessary to ensure the smooth operation of the game and remove some of the onus for those who have less time to dedicate to the league. The BOG will be responsible for the majority of the decision making and implementation required to manage the various league elements.

GM Representation: As a member of the BOG, your primary responsibility is to act as a voice for all other GM's.
This will primarily occur through voting, as it is impractical and time consuming to require all 31 GM's to vote on every given issue. You are entitled to your individual opinions, but your final decisions are expected to reflect the opinion of those you represent.
You are expected to listen to other GM's, ensure their concerns are being addressed, make sure they receive any information they require, and provide them with assistance where necessary.

League Representation: As a member of the BOG, you are responsible for representing the interests of the league.
Working as a group, including feedback from other GM's, this will primarily be accomplished by establishing rules and procedures, and then enforcing those rules and procedures.
Provide clear expectations and outline consequences for failing to meet those expectations. This gives fair opportunity for GM's to control their own fate by fulfilling their responsibilities to the league. When a GM does fail to meet expectations, it is your duty to enact the consequences as outlined.
When a GM meets expectations, the BOG's primary responsibility is to the GM.
When a GM fails to meet expectations, the rules take precedence, but the BOG still represents the GM to the best of their ability in line with those rules and expectations.
If the rules fail to adequately apply, the BOG is expected to represent the GM until the rules are corrected.

Communication: The main tool of the BOG is effective communication.
By hosting discussion and considering feedback, the BOG will be able to determine the needs of the league and develop plans while taking the opinions of league members into account.
By posting decisions, rules, procedures, and expectations, the GM's will be able to determine the needs of the league and what their responsibilities entail.
By having the opportunity to be involved in the discussion and contribute feedback on various topics, GM's will have had their say in matters which impact them.

Voting: Whenever possible, the BOG will resolve an issue requiring a vote.
The majority of issues will require four BOG members on one side in order to make a decision.
If there are at least two BOG members opposed to a motion, with a minimum of five votes cast, the minority members may request a public poll to reach a majority decision. (Note: This does not apply to applications of the infraction/zero tolerance policies, or to the application of penalties/repercussions outlined in the rules for failing to meet expectations.)
A public vote will be open to all 31 GM's (including BOG members) for 48 hours, with the resulting majority being the decision. A motion that is defeated can be opened back up for discussion and reconsidered with further feedback and amendments made.
In all other instances a majority vote will be considered a passing motion.

Activity and Expectations: As a BOG member, you are expected to maintain a visible profile, engage in discussion, help with the implementation of procedures, debate and vote on issues, monitor for issues, and bring any important matters to attention. Simply managing your team and voting when required are not enough and/or engaging in activities outside of the forum, do not provide the necessary presence or confidence that you are indeed carrying out your duties to the satisfaction of the GM's you represent.
BOG members may be assigned active roles within the group to have members specialized in certain areas, if their level of activity and profile are maintained and other BOG members are willing to shoulder certain responsibilities, but that does not excuse BOG members from active participation in issues, or their responsibilities to the GM's they represent.

Removal: Sometimes a BOG member will step down or need to be removed/replaced for a number of reasons. Negligence or inactivity primarily, but failing to live up to the expectations of the GM's you represent is just as important.
a) If a BOG member needs to step down, that is not an issue. It is a voluntary position and it isn't for everyone, or circumstances can change and make it unavoidable.
b) If a BOG member has been negligent, not active enough, or otherwise not fulfilling their duties, it is the prerogative and expectation that the remaining BOG acknowledge the issue and make efforts to correct it. Whether it be a warning or vote for removal, it is a BOG member's duty to make sure the BOG is fully operational and functioning as intended. This should always be picked up on and corrected by the BOG before it becomes a larger issue.
c) If a BOG member falls under b) and the BOG does not take the initiative to deal with the issue, or a BOG member is not meeting expectations according to the majority of GM's that they represent, they may be asked to step down. A nomination for removal, accompanied by at least 6 other GM's (7 GM's in total) should be sufficient to request a BOG member admit they have not been performing their role and voluntarily step down so a better suited member can be voted in.
If a BOG member does not wish to step down voluntarily at that point, the remaining BOG members must hold a vote for removal.
After the BOG vote for removal, if those GM's are still not satisfied, they may request a public vote with another 3 supporting GM's (10 GM's in total, with the number of BOG in favor of removal counting towards that total).

This should always be considered a last resort. The individual member or other BOG members should recognize and admit to there being an issue before it ever gets this far.

BOG Elections: When an election is held for the BOG, it will always be a new public vote conducted by the BOG. Past voting results are not a factor, neither is seniority. Those who wish to volunteer for consideration may do so. The BOG will give at least 48 hours before conducting a vote, and another 48 hours to allow GM's to place their votes. Activity, maturity, knowledge, communication, and reputation should all be considered by voters. BOG members have a number of responsibilities and expectations to fulfill and you will want someone in place who is able to carry out the role effectively so your job as a GM is made simpler and easier.


ITEM 2

Quoting: Duster
Quoting: Duster
Rules for GM Activity:

1. GMs are required to show activity once every 5 days. This requires at minimum that a post be made within the GM Game forum, which serves as a time stamp of your most recent activity.
2. The BOG are required to notify any outstanding GMs of their inactivity 48 hours before they can be removed from their position.
3. GMs that are removed due to inactivity, they may return as an AGM to their respective team, with permission of the newly assigned GM.
4. GMs are required to notify the BOG of any upcoming periods of inactivity longer than 2 days.

Once a GM has received a warning of inactivity, they will be expected to demonstrate their commitment to the game and the expectation of activity for that GM will be increased. This ensures we are able to easily identify and replace those who do not have the required time or level of commitment necessary to participate fully.

Level 1: GM has not met expectations and will receive a 48 hour notice after 5 days of no activity. If the GM returns with that 48 hour period, they will be placed on Level 2. Otherwise, they will be removed.
Level 2: GM has not met expectations and will receive no notice and be removed after 5 days of no activity and demoted to agm.
After 10 days of inactivity a gm/agm will be entirely removed from the game and forfeit any seniority.
If a GM has repeatedly failed to meet expectations the BOG may use discretion to remove the GM for the overall good of the game.

**Note: The BOG may veto a warning once for a GM in a case of extraneous circumstances beyond that GM's control. (ie: Acts of god or serious IRL situations).*



ITEM 3

Quoting: ricochetii
Training Camp / Opening Day Rosters

In order for everyone to set their opening day 23 man roster and deal with some players who will not be under NHL contract this season.
Your 23 man roster and any relevant "discrepancies" and player removals will be dealt with at this time.

First Step: Removal of players
Only players that fall under one or more of these conditions will be eligible to be removed from your roster/cap.

1. Was not under contract IRL when retiring - Off your roster and off your books
2. Was under contract IRL when retiring - Off your roster and off your books UNLESS they were on a 35+ contract, where the full cap hit will still apply.
2b. Cap recapture penalties, if applicable, would also apply.
3. Left for another league (regardless of contract status) - The rights to the player will remain on your books, but the cap hit will be reduced to league minimum. (Markov, Andrei $5.5M x 2 years becomes (R) Markov, Andrei $650k x 2 years). If such player returns prior to the term expiring, you may re-sign them to match their IRL contract. If you choose not to, they will be placed on waivers under the same conditions. You may not keep them as "Rights" unless they clear waivers.
4. LTIR situations will be dealt with at the same time if possible. Obvious ones will be approved, but some will have to wait until their RL team puts them on LTIR, which is the only way we can confirm their status.

Teams will provide a list of names, along with the condition that applies to them. Be aware that only Capfriendly confirmed cases may be submitted at this time.
You will have the option to remove players under these same conditions if they are confirmed at a later date, this is only to get the bulk of the currently confirmed cases dealt with.

Second Step: Waiver Exempt non-roster players
Players who will not be part of your opening day roster may be sent to the minors, provided they are currently exempt from waivers.

1. Teams will bring ALL of their players up to their main roster.
2. Players may not be sent down at this point.
3. Teams will submit a list of waiver exempt players they wish to send down. Only after confirmation and approval can they be moved.
4. Teams will submit a list of the remaining players they wish to send down. These players will be placed on waivers and eligible to be claimed. Players who clear waivers may be sent down. Players who are claimed will be removed from your roster instead.
5. The players that remain on your roster at this point will be your opening day roster. You must have at least 20 players on your roster at all times, including a minimum of 12 forwards, 6 defense, and 2 goalies.
6. You must also be cap compliant. Your roster will be checked once it is set (there will be a temporary freeze to prevent changes until calculations are complete).

Third Step: In-season activity
Once your roster is compliant, it must remain compliant throughout the season.
In-season waivers will be instituted. Call ups and/or send downs will have to be posted for waiver purposes. (Details to follow)
Any movement which results in exceeding roster or cap restrictions, must be immediately followed by a movement that corrects the overage/shortage.


ITEM 4

New BOG members. We're down 2 members and should begin collecting nominations to hold a vote early next week to fill the vacant positions.

ITEM 5

We need a volunteer to take over the sticky and keep track of the agenda/voting.
12 sept. 2017 à 12 h 8
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ITEMS 1, 3, 4 (1-0, Rico - X)
ITEM 2 (0-1, X - Rico) : This already passed, I'm just copying my original vote for completeness.
12 sept. 2017 à 12 h 54
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ITEMS 1, 3, 4 (2-0, Rico -Duster X)
ITEM 2 (1-1, X - Rico Duster) : This already passed, I'm just copying my original vote for completeness.
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14 sept. 2017 à 8 h 53
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Can you guys check the items I listed and respond so I can move ahead with them?
14 sept. 2017 à 9 h 58
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Quoting: ricochetii
Can you guys check the items I listed and respond so I can move ahead with them?


Items 1/3/4 : 3-0 (Rico, Duster, phillyjabroni)
Items 2 : 2-1 (already passed)
14 sept. 2017 à 11 h 38
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
Quoting: ricochetii
Can you guys check the items I listed and respond so I can move ahead with them?


Items 1/3/4 : 3-0 (Rico, Duster, phillyjabroni)
Items 2 : 2-1 (already passed)


Quoting: phillyjabroni
Quoting: ricochetii
Can you guys check the items I listed and respond so I can move ahead with them?


Items 1/3/4 : 3-0 (Rico, Duster, phillyjabroni)
Items 2 : 2-1 (already passed)


Items 1/3/4 : 4-0 (Rico, Duster, phillyjabroni, Daryl)
Item 2 : 3-1 (already passed).
14 sept. 2017 à 13 h 30
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All Items pass via BOG vote
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14 sept. 2017 à 23 h 27
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I'll start posting this stuff and getting things rolling tomorrow.
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15 sept. 2017 à 15 h 50
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Wrong thread, thought this was the BOG and other GMs thread, sorry.
15 sept. 2017 à 16 h 3
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I probably posted this in the wrong thread ... should i sign Jagr for 1 year, 900K?


Yes Rangers. I already told you that you could sign him and gave you his terms and told you to double check the sheet (in the UFA II selection thread) if you weren't sure of something.
 
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