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SPC Dump by the Maple Leafs

Créé par: DragonRaptorHybrid
Date de création initiale: 10 août 2017
Publié: 10 août 2017
Équipe: 2017-18 Panthers de la Floride
Explications
somebody else suggested the idea of the Maple Leafs trading for McCann first, but this is a bit of a tweak.

- giving up McCann's not a death blow for the Panthers. sure, it's a blow to their AHL affiliate, and McCann is still a decently-regarded prospect, but they've got the players to fill the scoring void (Curtis Valk, Alexandre Grenier), and the Maple Leafs aren't the strongest at C at the moment. the Panthers also have Henrik Borgström, Aleksi Heponiemi, and Jonathan Ang all likely to sign with the Panthers within a year or two; that insulates the blow from losing McCann.
- Fehr and Leivo don't have a permanent place on the Maple Leafs' roster right now, but they're still NHL-caliber players. this way, they at least get a better look at a roster spot in the NHL. Fehr can slot in as a PKer as well.
- unlike most other teams, the Panthers actually have a dearth of left-shot defenders. Valiev is AHL depth, and Marinčin can play on the 3rd pair and contribute to the PK.
Transactions
1.
FLA
  1. Leivo, Josh
  2. Fehr, Eric
  3. Marincin, Martin
  4. Valiev, Rinat
TOR
  1. McCann, Jared
Rachats de contrats
  • Jussi Jokinen: 1 333 333 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Jason Demers: 562 500 $ (13%)
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2019
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $67 777 499 $0 $1 675 000 $7 222 501 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Huberdeau, Jonathan
5 900 000 $
AG
UFA - 6
Barkov, Aleksander
5 900 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Dadonov, Evgeni
4 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Haapala, Henrik
925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Trocheck, Vincent
4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Vrbata, Radim
2 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Leivo, Josh
612 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Bjugstad, Nick
2 050 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
Tippett, Owen
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 5
MacKenzie, Derek
1 375 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Fehr, Eric
2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Sceviour, Colton
950 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Haley, Micheal
825 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Malgin, Denis
690 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Yandle, Keith
6 350 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Ekblad, Aaron
7 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
Luongo, Roberto
4 533 333 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
Matheson, Michael
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Demers, Jason
3 937 500 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
Reimer, James
3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Marincin, Martin
1 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Pysyk, Mark
2 733 333 $
DD, AD
UFA - 3
Petrovic, Alex
1 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Huberdeau, J.
Barkov, A.
Dadonov, E.
Yandle, K.
Ekblad, A.
Avantage numérique 2
Haapala, H.
Trocheck, V.
Vrbata, R.
Bjugstad, N.
Demers, J.
Infériorité numérique 1
MacKenzie, D.
Sceviour, C.
Matheson, M.
Pysyk, M.
Infériorité numérique 2
Fehr, E.
Trocheck, V.
Marincin, M.
Demers, J.

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10 août 2017 à 23 h 35
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Take Marchenko instead of Marincin and 5/5 Would trade again.
10 août 2017 à 23 h 44
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This is like taking your leftovers and going to a high class restaurant and asking for a steak dinner. Your not going to get a good prospect for all of your extra players.
11 août 2017 à 0 h 4
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Like it or not, Marincin might be the 6th Dman on the Leafs and Fehr is the 5th centre. Getting a prospect for this year just doesn't help the Leafs this year.
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Quoting: HockeyNM1510
This is like taking your leftovers and going to a high class restaurant and asking for a steak dinner. Your not going to get a good prospect for all of your extra players.
...true, McCann may be a little much in return for an SPC dump. the Panthers do need bodies, though; they have 39 SPCs, which is the 2nd-lowest in the league, and they nave no RFAs to re-sign.

they do have a ton of right-shot defenders, and the Maple Leafs would maybe like one? Linus Hultström was a FA signing out of Sweden, and he's done fairly well in the SHL over the past 3 seasons. he's on the smaller side, though, at 5' 11" and 194 lb. he's also 24, so he'll be knocking on the door of the NHL pretty soon if he pans out. there's also Thomas Schemitsch; 3rd round pick in 2014, more of a defensive-type defender, judging from points alone, but he's got the size that so many teams crave, at 6' 4" and 205 lb. Schemitsch is also only 20, so he can play in the AHL for at least a couple of years.
11 août 2017 à 0 h 7
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Like it or not, Marincin might be the 6th Dman on the Leafs and Fehr is the 5th centre. Getting a prospect for this year just doesn't help the Leafs this year.
so, then, what would the Maple Leafs be looking for if they were to do another SPC dump? their NHL roster is all but set, so they're not looking for NHL players in return. they've clearly got a ton of prospects already, and a team trading with the Maple Leafs can only give up so many picks.
11 août 2017 à 0 h 19
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Quoting: palhal
Like it or not, Marincin might be the 6th Dman on the Leafs and Fehr is the 5th centre. Getting a prospect for this year just doesn't help the Leafs this year.
so, then, what would the Maple Leafs be looking for if they were to do another SPC dump? their NHL roster is all but set, so they're not looking for NHL players in return. they've clearly got a ton of prospects already, and a team trading with the Maple Leafs can only give up so many picks.


I disagree when you say the Leafs roster is set. They do have spare pieces at wing where this dump of multiple player trade for one is possible. But the Leafs are really thin at NHL defence, and centre so trading one in each position without getting one in return is IMO not good for the roster. Try making the trade with the Leaf roster and you can't fill the 6th Dman spot or the 5th centre.
11 août 2017 à 0 h 25
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Quoting: DragonRaptorHybrid
so, then, what would the Maple Leafs be looking for if they were to do another SPC dump? their NHL roster is all but set, so they're not looking for NHL players in return. they've clearly got a ton of prospects already, and a team trading with the Maple Leafs can only give up so many picks.


I disagree when you say the Leafs roster is set. They do have spare pieces at wing where this dump of multiple player trade for one is possible. But the Leafs are really thin at NHL defence, and centre so trading one in each position without getting one in return is IMO not good for the roster. Try making the trade with the Leaf roster and you can't fill the 6th Dman spot or the 5th centre.
13th forward would be Ben Smith; why else would they have bothered to re-sign him? he was signed initially for his faceoff abilities, and the only reason that went south was because he had a broken hand. and, before you say "the expansion draft," Fehr and Martin already satisfied the exposure requirement.
to me, the Maple Leafs defense without Marinčin, looks like:
Rielly - Zaitsev
Gardiner - Carrick
Dermott - Hainsey
Marchenko
(or, like, one of Rosén/Borgman/Nielsen, but my understanding is that Sheldon Keefe seems to be the highest on Dermott)
11 août 2017 à 9 h 4
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You asked about Smith. He is signed for his veteran presence with the Marlies. The Leafs absolutely don't want him to be a regular on the Leafs. And you proved my point with your defence lineup. Having Marchenko at the seventh spot is a possibility but the with injuries you want be forced to play him. I'm sure the Leafs don't want this. Marchenko the Leafs are hoping he is being buried in the AHL. Sure Leafs and their fans are high on Dermot but he has only played half a season with the Marlies. No way can he pencilled in to be regular with the Leafs right now. Rosen, Borgman haven't played in North America so they can't be assumed to have NHL jobs in October either.
So while I agree on your concept of the trade, if you're trading for a prospect McCann, the Leafs can't afford to give up two NHLers. McCann for Rychel, Leivo, and Valiev....three prospects. What I think the Leafs would prefer would to be trade for a 5/6 Dman who are better than Marchenko or maybe even Marincin for Rychel, Leivo and Valiev.
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You asked about Smith. He is signed for his veteran presence with the Marlies. The Leafs absolutely don't want him to be a regular on the Leafs. And you proved my point with your defence lineup. Having Marchenko at the seventh spot is a possibility but the with injuries you want be forced to play him. I'm sure the Leafs don't want this. Marchenko the Leafs are hoping he is being buried in the AHL. Sure Leafs and their fans are high on Dermot but he has only played half a season with the Marlies. No way can he pencilled in to be regular with the Leafs right now. Rosen, Borgman haven't played in North America so they can't be assumed to have NHL jobs in October either.
So while I agree on your concept of the trade, if you're trading for a prospect McCann, the Leafs can't afford to give up two NHLers. McCann for Rychel, Leivo, and Valiev....three prospects. What I think the Leafs would prefer would to be trade for a 5/6 Dman who are better than Marchenko or maybe even Marincin for Rychel, Leivo and Valiev.
Alright. I'm not married to this specific trade; just trying to work out the general idea.

- Valiev and Leivo, I think, are dumpable SPCs.
- Hainsey's not being paid $3M to rotate in and out of the press box, so one of Marinčin or Marchenko has to sit on a nightly basis. If you think that's acceptable, then alright. If not, one of them has to go.
- I still think McCann would be of interest, as he is a C prospect. Maybe the trade involves a swap of McCann for Rychel or one of Timashov/Lindberg? Both of the latter are barely getting any ice time with the Marlies, despite being decent prospects. This trade would help them get actual ice time. I think Soshnikov is also tradeable, as he seems to be NHL-capable but doesn't have a permanent spot on the NHL roster (unless Babcock likes him enough to keep him around).
11 août 2017 à 11 h 27
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Sorry, I just don't rate McCann that high a prospect anymore. He scores a 2/10 on Hero Chart shot suppression too.
11 août 2017 à 13 h 17
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You quote: Hainsey's not being paid $3M to rotate in and out of the press box, so one of Marinčin or Marchenko has to sit on a nightly basis. If you think that's acceptable, then alright. If not, one of them has to go.

Obviously Hainsey is going to play big minutes because he can. But just because Marincin or Marchenko might rotate nightly doesn't mean that one has to go. One of them would go if there is someone(s) is ready to take their place and is better. And as of mid August, no one has. I would love to see a trade as you suggest but for a an acceptable Dman, not a prospect centre.
 
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