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SportsNet CA Buch Trade

Créé par: BrownieSTL
Équipe: 2023-24 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 2 mars 2024
Publié: 2 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
STL
  1. Blake, Jackson [Liste de réserve]
  2. Necas, Martin
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
CAR
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
Détails additionnels:
It didn’t say anything about retention in the article but if CAR needs it just assume it’ll cost another 4th for a third team (like other recent deals)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $79 957 262 $20 000 $400 000 $3 542 738 $
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8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
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8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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775 000 $775 000 $
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775 000 $775 000 $
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816 667 $816 667 $
C
RFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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UFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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UFA - 3
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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UFA - 7
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775 000 $775 000 $
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RFA - 2
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3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
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UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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2 mars à 9 h 47
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Hahaha... Any trade for Buch would be for futures and this package is just not it
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2 mars à 9 h 47
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This package is enough with retention included
2 mars à 9 h 51
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Hahaha... Any trade for Buch would be for futures and this package is just not it


Okay, this has come up again... do you mean any Buch to CAR trade, or just any Buch trade in general?
2 mars à 9 h 52
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This is a crazy large amount of value, but I find it alarming how all these supposed insiders don't understand the Blues' primary need. It's not exactly a secret or hard to figure out.
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2 mars à 9 h 53
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This is a crazy large amount of value, but I find it alarming how all these supposed insiders don't understand the Blues' primary need. It's not exactly a secret or hard to figure out.


A defensemen
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2 mars à 9 h 54
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I love Buch and the fit with the Canes, but they aren’t the team to do this. They don’t manage their assets like this.

If this is the level of return required, won’t be the Canes to send it.

I’m just more shocked that Sportsnet posted anything involving two American teams.
2 mars à 9 h 55
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A defensemen


See? You just showed up unaware and got it in one second. Easy.

Somehow the ENTIRE Canadian NHL media cannot figure this out to save their lives.
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2 mars à 9 h 56
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See? You just showed up unaware and got it in one second. Easy.

Somehow the ENTIRE Canadian NHL media cannot figure this out to save their lives.


Well I watched them play the Red Wings last week and that didn't go well at all.
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2 mars à 9 h 57
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Okay, this has come up again... do you mean any Buch to CAR trade, or just any Buch trade in general?


Just Buch to Carolina... The upgrade that he's gonna provide just does not make it worth it to spend roster assets to get a guy who isn't used to the system and is gonna take a long time to integrate with the system. Every single new skater struggles with the Hurricanes system for about three months before figuring it out and it's just not worth it with the playoffs right around the corner
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2 mars à 10 h 0
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I mean I wouldn’t be mad but I would be very confused. Can’t see Carolina sending Necas either as I’d imagine they want to be loaded for a run at the cup. Trade has good value though which is always nice
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Well I watched them play the Red Wings last week and that didn't go well at all.


I actually missed that game (thank heaven for small miracles).
2 mars à 10 h 1
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A defensemen


I don't pay that close attention to the blues and even I can figure out what the problem is... They have Nick Leddy playing a top-pairing role... that is a problem
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Just Buch to Carolina... The upgrade that he's gonna provide just does not make it worth it to spend roster assets to get a guy who isn't used to the system and is gonna take a long time to integrate with the system. Every single new skater struggles with the Hurricanes system for about three months before figuring it out and it's just not worth it with the playoffs right around the corner


Gotcha.
2 mars à 10 h 1
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I don't play that close attention to the blues and even I can figure out what's the problem is... They have Nick Leddy playing a top-pairing role... that is a problem


And not even close to the biggest problem in the stable (at least this season).
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2 mars à 10 h 2
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That article also said Zucker costs Kakko plus. It was a laughable article that was intentionally over the top to draw views

Buch wouldn’t pull necas by himself
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2 mars à 10 h 15
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This is not a Carolina trade… way too aggressive
2 mars à 10 h 21
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Canes aren't the type to trade a team controlled young player for one in his late 20's who i doubt they would re-sign. It would have to be almost exclusively futures. Swap Necas with someone like Morrow and that probably gets the conversation started.
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2 mars à 11 h 27
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That article also said Zucker costs Kakko plus. It was a laughable article that was intentionally over the top to draw views

Buch wouldn’t pull necas by himself


I understand the Canes don’t make these moves. But Buch is a better player than Necas right now. Scouting reports on this website even show that. If the Blues retained on Buch, he’d also only cost 2.9 next season. Necas is more than likely going to cost you $8m per on long term deal next season. And you can say the Canes won’t pay that but that is what other wingers of his age/performance have gotten recently.
2 mars à 11 h 42
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I understand the Canes don’t make these moves. But Buch is a better player than Necas right now. Scouting reports on this website even show that. If the Blues retained on Buch, he’d also only cost 2.9 next season. Necas is more than likely going to cost you $8m per on long term deal next season. And you can say the Canes won’t pay that but that is what other wingers of his age/performance have gotten recently.


No one is disagreeing with where buch and necas are but age and contract control figure into value in trades. That fact swings the value in Necas’ favor especially with there not a huge gap in the 2 players
2 mars à 11 h 59
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No one is disagreeing with where buch and necas are but age and contract control figure into value in trades. That fact swings the value in Necas’ favor especially with there not a huge gap in the 2 players


Necas comparables:
Caufield
Kyrou
Robertson before his explosion last season

Just saying you are going to have to pay him.
2 mars à 12 h 0
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Necas comparables:
Caufield
Kyrou
Robertson before his explosion last season

Just saying you are going to have to pay him.

We have the cap space to do so
2 mars à 16 h 34
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We have the cap space to do so


Yes but Aho also up in year. Not trying to poach just saying those 2 being involved in trade with other parts is not completely inconceivable
2 mars à 16 h 44
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Yes but Aho also up in year. Not trying to poach just saying those 2 being involved in trade with other parts is not completely inconceivable


Aho is already re-signed with 30 million in cap space
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Aho is already re-signed with 30 million in cap space


My bad
2 mars à 17 h 35
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My bad


No worries
 
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