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Date de création initiale: 27 févr. 2024
Publié: 27 févr. 2024
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if canucks trade pettersson i would bet they want high end roster pieces coming back. tkachuk trade would be the best comp

my best guess about what the canucks would look for if they trade pettersson this offseason. basically, they need an elite piece coming back. likely that would be a winger, since i dont think any team out there wants to trade their first line centre for a different first line centre.

then there would need to be another complimentary piece included as well to offset value differences
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                  27 févr. à 13 h 33
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                  Yah no... Jarvis+Svech is insane for the Hurricanes. It creates a massive hole in the lineup
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                  VAN declines all of those
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                  Some of these are comicals overpays. You want 2 top six pieces and a borderline blue-chip prospect for a player that won't sign long term? No. Hell, You're asking for MARNER + (and I think Marner's overrated on here) but he's arguably the better player!
                  27 févr. à 13 h 35
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                  Yah no... Jarvis+Svech is insane for the Hurricanes. It creates a massive hole in the lineup


                  no it doesnt
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                  I dont even nessisarily disagree on what the Canucks might want, but how does anyone look at the calagry end of the Tkachuk deal and say "let's emulate that"

                  Canucks should learn from that mistake, not make it themselves
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                  Quoting: Caniac2000
                  Some of these are comicals overpays. You want 2 top six pieces and a borderline blue-chip prospect for a player that won't sign long term? No. Hell, You're asking for MARNER + (and I think Marner's overrated on here) but he's arguably the better player!


                  Marner is not better and also is older and also a WINGER lmao
                  27 févr. à 13 h 36
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                  I dont even nessisarily disagree on what the Canucks might want, but how does anyone look at the calagry end of the Tkachuk deal and say "let's emulate that"

                  Canucks should learn from that mistake, not make it themselves


                  the tkachuk trade was widely viewed as a win for calgary at the time. hubderdeau having an unprecedented drop off was nearly impossible to see coming.
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                  Wings wont add raymond
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                  Quoting: The_Rocket
                  the tkachuk trade was widely viewed as a win for calgary at the time. hubderdeau having an unprecedented drop off was nearly impossible to see coming.


                  It was viewed as a win only by idiots. Smarter folks rightly panned it at the time (feel free to see what I said in the trade thread)
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                  Vancouver will try yo go for a cup run even if they lose him at free agency.
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                  It was viewed as a win only by idiots. Smarter folks rightly panned it at the time (feel free to see what I said in the trade thread)


                  yeah look at all these idiots hey:

                  https://flameforthought.com/2022/07/28/analyzing-the-matthew-tkachuk-trade-from-the-calgary-flames-to-the-florida-panthers/

                  https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/panthers-matthew-tkachuk-trade-grade-flames

                  https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10043024-winners-and-losers-of-blockbuster-matthew-tkachuk-trade

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/CalgaryFlames/comments/w5t957/tkachuk_traded_to_fla_for_huberdeau_weeger_2023/?rdt=49480

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sueq4VX9GSY

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz18oNIQoFo

                  and many many more
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                  incredibly you made the Canes offer without the one guy reported to be available in Necas.
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                  Wasted energy trying to comment on this trade

                  Quoting: Moosetache
                  incredibly you made the Canes offer without the one guy reported to be available in Necas.


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                  Yah no... Jarvis+Svech is insane for the Hurricanes. It creates a massive hole in the lineup
                  27 févr. à 13 h 54
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                  Why would the habs remotely consider that.

                  Suzuki has been hanging around the top 30 in scoring while having great defensive metrics and more importantly is signed long term at a sub 8 million contract.

                  Theres a good chunk of teams that wpuld take suzuki at 7.9 vs petersson at 12ish.

                  Then you add guhle who immediately would be at worst the canucks 3rd best dman and dach who is a high ceiling player as well.

                  Not remotely close to realistic
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                  Why would the habs remotely consider that.

                  Suzuki has been hanging around the top 30 in scoring while having great defensive metrics and more importantly is signed long term at a sub 8 million contract.

                  Theres a good chunk of teams that wpuld take suzuki at 7.9 vs petersson at 12ish.

                  Then you add guhle who immediately would be at worst the canucks 3rd best dman and dach who is a high ceiling player as well.

                  Not remotely close to realistic


                  you sure about that?
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                  incredibly you made the Canes offer without the one guy reported to be available in Necas.


                  i would probably do necas instead of svech if thats what carolina prefers.
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                  mtl is currently 4 or 5 pieces away from competing, a few may already be in the system and up in the few years but trading away 3 of our best young players for a single piece just sets them back farther. If they want him send an offersheet and hope for the best. also those offers are wildly inconsistent.
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                  Quoting: The_Rocket
                  you sure about that?


                  100% sure they'd take suzuki at 7.9 if it meant keeping Dach and Ghule.
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                  Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
                  100% sure they'd take suzuki at 7.9 if it meant keeping Dach and Ghule.


                  seems to be the opposite appraoch of your username
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                  Quoting: The_Rocket
                  seems to be the opposite appraoch of your username


                  please explain? a team that needs scoring should trade away their number one scorer plus two of their best assets, you subtract more than you gain in this offer. my username isnt "habs should be idiots about their future."
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                  Mikko and byram for petterson and hoglander is an overpay. Mikko to petterson is a lateral move and adding byram to that I feel like we get worse overall. I don’t think we would but there could be a deal for Mikko and petterson value wise us adding a pick since petterson is a center and is more valuable but not byram
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                  Quoting: The_Rocket
                  you sure about that?


                  Absolutely
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                  Quoting: Altar7358
                  Mikko and byram for petterson and hoglander is an overpay. Mikko to petterson is a lateral move and adding byram to that I feel like we get worse overall. I don’t think we would but there could be a deal for Mikko and petterson value wise us adding a pick since petterson is a center and is more valuable but not byram


                  i think given age and positional value, pettersson would be higher value than rantenan as a trade piece, seeing as centre is colorados biggest need. im not sure how valuable dumping johansen is but my though was byram + johansenat almost $8 million = hoglander at 1.1 million
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                  Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
                  please explain? a team that needs scoring should trade away their number one scorer plus two of their best assets, you subtract more than you gain in this offer. my username isnt "habs should be idiots about their future."


                  a team that needs scoring should add a 100 point player
                   
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