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Pesce is a Sabre

Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2024-25 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2024
Publié: 11 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 750 000 $
1900 000 $
23 000 000 $
77 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
66 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2187 500 000 $86 117 737 $0 $1 500 000 $1 382 263 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG
RFA - 2
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
C
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UFA - 6
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RFA - 1
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 3
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
AG, C
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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886 667 $886 667 $
C, AG
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7 100 000 $7 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 6
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
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UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
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DG
UFA - 6
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 8
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
RFA
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
UFA
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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11 févr. à 16 h 13
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Why’d you do this to me 😢
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Quoting: Lsendel3
Why’d you do this to me 😢


He’s from NY he should be their top target imo
11 févr. à 16 h 16
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He’s from NY he should be their top target imo


I agree, exactly what they’re missing. There was talk that he said nah this last offseason when approached about a trade to Buffalo once though. Don’t know how true, or have any link.
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11 févr. à 16 h 17
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He declined to waive his no trade to go to Buffalo last summer, not sure he is looking to sign there next summer.
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Quoting: csick
He’s from NY he should be their top target imo


And he also said no to waiving for Buffalo last year, So i seriously doubt he signs there this summer. Plus he's looking at closer to the Noah Hanifin 7 x $7,500,000 deal for 6x6 he'd remain in Carolina.
11 févr. à 16 h 23
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Poor Pesce
11 févr. à 16 h 24
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Looking at this roster, there is no place long term for Savoie and Rosen, unless you want to ruin them on the fourth line. Is there any chance we could get one of them for one of our D? Perhaps Barron for Savoie or Xhekaj for Rosen?
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Looking at this roster, there is no place long term for Savoie and Rosen, unless you want to ruin them on the fourth line. Is there any chance we could get one of them for one of our D? Perhaps Barron for Savoie or Xhekaj for Rosen?

They would want more established guys. Barron wouldn’t fit skill wise and xhekaj isn’t very good.
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They would want more established guys. Barron wouldn’t fit skill wise and xhekaj isn’t very good.


Barron would be a really good fit with Dahlin or even Power if he stops making rookie mistakes (he should tho, he is solid defensively with Laval now and he was showing improvement in his last few games in the big league). Next season, he will be a full time nhler

Xhekaj is and will continue to be a very good physical third pairing D on any team. Rosen will be good, but he won’t get a chance in Buffalo. So they trade a better piece at a position of strength for a worse piece at a position of weakness
11 févr. à 17 h 47
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Looking at this roster, there is no place long term for Savoie and Rosen, unless you want to ruin them on the fourth line. Is there any chance we could get one of them for one of our D? Perhaps Barron for Savoie or Xhekaj for Rosen?


Savoie need 1 year in AHL, with Ostlund. If Rosen outplays Skinner then buyout should be on the menu.
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Savoie need 1 year in AHL, with Ostlund. If Rosen outplays Skinner then buyout should be on the menu.


Oh f*ck I forgot Ostlund. Wow, Buffalo has a lot of good forward prospects that won’t ever get a shot
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Oh f*ck I forgot Ostlund. Wow, Buffalo has a lot of good forward prospects that won’t ever get a shot


They're all going to get a shot. Most of the bottom six is going to be gone in the next 12 months. And not every forward prospect will hit. Even if 50% of them do (which would be great) there's more than enough room to accomodate 2 forwards into the top 9.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
And he also said no to waiving for Buffalo last year, So i seriously doubt he signs there this summer. Plus he's looking at closer to the Noah Hanifin 7 x $7,500,000 deal for 6x6 he'd remain in Carolina.


This isn't accurate. It wasn't that he didn't want to go to Buffalo, he didn't want to leave Carolina. He also said no to Nashville. I fully expect him to re-sign, but if they can't make the money work, there would probably be mutual interest if for no other reason than a) BUF could pay him and b) Karmanos knows him very well.
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He’s from NY he should be their top target imo


He is from opposite end of state…Tarrytown, just over Tappen Zee bridge from New Jersey. Played minor/youth hockey in NJ.

(Not saying he is going to Jersey…just saying he may not have a link to Buffalo).
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He is from opposite end of state…Tarrytown, just over Tappen Zee bridge from New Jersey. Played minor/youth hockey in NJ.

(Not saying he is going to Jersey…just saying he may not have a link to Buffalo).


yeah the link is personnel (Karmanos and maybe Adams) not location.
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yeah the link is personnel (Karmanos and maybe Adams) not location.


Karmanos was gone by the time Pesce arrived in Carolina.

I think the personnel connection to watch would be Jim/John link in Philly.
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Karmanos was gone by the time Pesce arrived in Carolina.

I think the personnel connection to watch would be Jim/John link in Philly.


he was the AGM when they drafted him.
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he was the AGM when they drafted him.


Well, maybe Jim Rutherford could be option too. Was GM went drafted.

I think Torts link would be as good as any.
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Well, maybe Jim Rutherford could be option too. Was GM went drafted.

I think Torts link would be as good as any.


They could be. Im just saying a link does exist for BUF otherwise the rumour wouldnt have had any traction.
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They're all going to get a shot. Most of the bottom six is going to be gone in the next 12 months. And not every forward prospect will hit. Even if 50% of them do (which would be great) there's more than enough room to accomodate 2 forwards into the top 9.


No they aren’t. The top 9 is almost set. One will replace Skinner eventually. You don’t want to have young players on the fourth line cuz they will turn into Krebs 2.0
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No they aren’t. The top 9 is almost set. One will replace Skinner eventually. You don’t want to have young players on the fourth line cuz they will turn into Krebs 2.0


It's literally not lol. Girgensons, Okposo and robinson are all UFA's this summer. That's 3 spots. Greenway is likely gone next summer. There's 4. Krebs probably gets dealt at some point. That's 5 out of 6 spots in the bottom six. Or an entire 3rd line That could be Kulich-Ostlund-Rosen. And again, that's assuming every young player pans out. odds are 50-70% of them won't.
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It's literally not lol. Girgensons, Okposo and robinson are all UFA's this summer. That's 3 spots. Greenway is likely gone next summer. There's 4. Krebs probably gets dealt at some point. That's 5 out of 6 spots in the bottom six. Or an entire 3rd line That could be Kulich-Ostlund-Rosen. And again, that's assuming every young player pans out. odds are 50-70% of them won't.

Here is the top 9, although you could just see above :
Benson - TNT - JJP
Skinner - Mittelstadt - Quinn
Kulich - Cozens - Tuch
See, no spot. And you don’t want prospects stuck on the fourth line
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Here is the top 9, although you could just see above :
Benson - TNT - JJP
Skinner - Mittelstadt - Quinn
Kulich - Cozens - Tuch
See, no spot. And you don’t want prospects stuck on the fourth line


Skinner isn't going to be in the top 9 when the Sabres get a new coach and try to be competent. He's already become a massive liability because his offense no longer out paces his defense. Likely the next coach healthy scratches him a bunch and then he ends up retained and dealt.


Mittelstadt-Tage-Tuch

Benson-Cozens-Peterka

Kulich-Ostlund-Quinn/Rosen. Quinn is injury prone, Rosen will get plenty of minutes in the top nine assuming he isn't a bust.

For the record, I don't even disagree with your premise. But it gave kevyn adams a seizure when he had to trade ECHL forward Josh Bloom. There's a zero percent chance he moves any of his top prospects.
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Quoting: Stadel
Skinner isn't going to be in the top 9 when the Sabres get a new coach and try to be competent. He's already become a massive liability because his offense no longer out paces his defense. Likely the next coach healthy scratches him a bunch and then he ends up retained and dealt.


Mittelstadt-Tage-Tuch

Benson-Cozens-Peterka

Kulich-Ostlund-Quinn/Rosen. Quinn is injury prone, Rosen will get plenty of minutes in the top nine assuming he isn't a bust.

For the record, I don't even disagree with your premise. But it gave kevyn adams a seizure when he had to trade ECHL forward Josh Bloom. There's a zero percent chance he moves any of his top prospects.

So Skinner is gonna get replaced by Ostlund so Savoie and Rosen/Quinn will not get their chances. I think Adams is smart enough to recognize his team’s weakness and trade for a D
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So Skinner is gonna get replaced by Ostlund so Savoie and Rosen/Quinn will not get their chances. I think Adams is smart enough to recognize his team’s weakness and trade for a D


Actually skinner will probably get replaced by savoie, Ostlund still needs to play 2 years in the AHL. He can't just play for the NHL team right away.


If he was as competent as you think he is, the Sabres wouldn't be closer to Celebrini than the Habs in February lol. He's not a good GM.
 
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