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Staal gone.. Nashville Trade... Still Cap space 2.0

Créé par: seaschell1211
Équipe: 2017-18 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2017
Publié: 11 juill. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 250 000 $
55 500 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
Détails additionnels:
Aberg rights
NSH
  1. Holden, Nick
  2. Miller, J.T.
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NYR)
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2019
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $63 540 277 $0 $4 515 000 $11 459 723 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 5
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
C
UFA - 1
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
755 000 $755 000 $ (Bonis de performance157 500 $$158K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
802 500 $802 500 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 700 000 $4 700 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
UFA - 2
650 000 $650 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 2
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Aberg is a big question mark to me. what is his ceiling? he looks like a 23 y/o prospect with a short NHL stint, so he's not worth a top6 spot or a 1st round pick on the first sight. maybe NSH sees something in him, but he shouldn't be worth throwing away a 1st in a trade that was already favoring NSH.
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 4
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Quoting: Barathrum_Obama
Aberg is a big question mark to me. what is his ceiling? he looks like a 23 y/o prospect with a short NHL stint, so he's not worth a top6 spot or a 1st round pick on the first sight. maybe NSH sees something in him, but he shouldn't be worth throwing away a 1st in a trade that was already favoring NSH.


Picks can change, its an estimate right now. just seeing if we can get some younger players. Rangers are good at developement, but lets keep the younger players and make them useful to US not another team like normally
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 6
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Plus losing Miller(back to the last post) saves the Rangers from signing a contract that could hurt them in years to come... aka McDonagh
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 7
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Plus losing Miller(back to the last post) saves the Rangers from signing a contract that could hurt them in years to come... aka McDonagh


meaning Mcdonagh will need to be signed so we need the cap room
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 13
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Plus losing Miller(back to the last post) saves the Rangers from signing a contract that could hurt them in years to come... aka McDonagh


meaning Mcdonagh will need to be signed so we need the cap room


Miller, Hayes, Skjei and McD extensions should be feasible with ~12M. the only problem is the Staal buyout cost spike in two important years so trading him with a high pick instead of throwing away Miller seems a better option for me. especially since we don't know Abergs ceiling and Jarnkrok is probably a (good) career 3C with 30-35 points a year while Miller is a potential 50-55 point guy.
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 15
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Are you a Nashville fan or a Rangers fan? Why would you get rid of Millsey for a couple of guys that had somewhat decent-ish playoffs?
Calle Jarnkrok Nashville Predators UFA 25 C 81 15 16 31 -1 15:43
Pontus Aberg Nashville Predators RFA 23 LW 15 1 1 2 -2 12:20
J.T. Miller New York Rangers RFA 24 C, RW 82 22 34 56 17 16:21
What benefit am I missing here? Future cap space? Nash has 1 year left and won't cost as much after that. Skjei, Hayes, and Vesey won't be commanding massive pay increases after this upcoming season. I don't see any benefit from this whatsoever.
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 18
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meaning Mcdonagh will need to be signed so we need the cap room


Miller, Hayes, Skjei and McD extensions should be feasible with ~12M. the only problem is the Staal buyout cost spike in two important years so trading him with a high pick instead of throwing away Miller seems a better option for me. especially since we don't know Abergs ceiling and Jarnkrok is probably a (good) career 3C with 30-35 points a year while Miller is a potential 50-55 point guy.


I dont dislike Miller, but he is not a good center IMO.. keep him at wing at that is fine, McD is probably 6.5 or 7 Mill because his all around game(compared to Shatty) and Hayes will probaby be around 4 Mill and so would Miller, Skjei will be an interesting contract, Not sure how much that will be, could see long term for 3-4 Million, That would be 17.5 million using the lower estimates on McD and Skjei.. Miller gone makes that 13.5M which would be reasonable, plus we have Gropp, Boo, and some other prospects that will be ready soon.. Boo and Gropp could potentially play now
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 20
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Miller, Hayes, Skjei and McD extensions should be feasible with ~12M. the only problem is the Staal buyout cost spike in two important years so trading him with a high pick instead of throwing away Miller seems a better option for me. especially since we don't know Abergs ceiling and Jarnkrok is probably a (good) career 3C with 30-35 points a year while Miller is a potential 50-55 point guy.


I dont dislike Miller, but he is not a good center IMO.. keep him at wing at that is fine, McD is probably 6.5 or 7 Mill because his all around game(compared to Shatty) and Hayes will probaby be around 4 Mill and so would Miller, Skjei will be an interesting contract, Not sure how much that will be, could see long term for 3-4 Million, That would be 17.5 million using the lower estimates on McD and Skjei.. Miller gone makes that 13.5M which would be reasonable, plus we have Gropp, Boo, and some other prospects that will be ready soon.. Boo and Gropp could potentially play now


12M is the differential to now.
McD+3
Miller +2
Skjei +5 (longterm)
Hayes +2
is the worst case calculation.
I don't think we will ever see Nieves and Gropp in the NHL.
And you still don't give up a 50 point winger for a 3rd line center.
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 21
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Are you a Nashville fan or a Rangers fan? Why would you get rid of Millsey for a couple of guys that had somewhat decent-ish playoffs?
Calle Jarnkrok Nashville Predators UFA 25 C 81 15 16 31 -1 15:43
Pontus Aberg Nashville Predators RFA 23 LW 15 1 1 2 -2 12:20
J.T. Miller New York Rangers RFA 24 C, RW 82 22 34 56 17 16:21
What benefit am I missing here? Future cap space? Nash has 1 year left and won't cost as much after that. Skjei, Hayes, and Vesey won't be commanding massive pay increases after this upcoming season. I don't see any benefit from this whatsoever.


I like Jarnkrok a lot, and I am a Rangers Fan.. forget about the picks, i like Aberg and think he has potential to be a very solid player, Jarnkrok is the person i want most out of this trade... Aberg was just a though
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 23
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I dont dislike Miller, but he is not a good center IMO.. keep him at wing at that is fine, McD is probably 6.5 or 7 Mill because his all around game(compared to Shatty) and Hayes will probaby be around 4 Mill and so would Miller, Skjei will be an interesting contract, Not sure how much that will be, could see long term for 3-4 Million, That would be 17.5 million using the lower estimates on McD and Skjei.. Miller gone makes that 13.5M which would be reasonable, plus we have Gropp, Boo, and some other prospects that will be ready soon.. Boo and Gropp could potentially play now


12M is the differential to now.
McD+3
Miller +2
Skjei +5 (longterm)
Hayes +2
is the worst case calculation.
I don't think we will ever see Nieves and Gropp in the NHL.
And you still don't give up a 50 point winger for a 3rd line center.


I get your point, and we dont know how he will play on the rangers either... Gropp i think will be in the NHL.. have been following him for some time now and think he will be a big help eventually. Nieves is hit or miss but shows he could be called up if need(injury wise)
11 juill. 2017 à 14 h 33
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Biggest problem with getting a guy like Jarnkrok is, yes his contract is really great, but in a couple years when Andersson or Chytil are ready there is nowhere to put them... Dont waste good talent on the 4th line IMO
12 juill. 2017 à 23 h 50
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Why in the world will the NYR do that trade
 
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