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Tanev and hanifan

Créé par: Shaun80
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 27 janv. 2024
Publié: 27 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Why is a 1st round pick an overpay for Tanev? His age? He's a rental, he's playing great this season still. Injury prone? He's only missed 20 games in the past 4 years since joining the Flames. He is the best RD available on the trade market right now, and even if other teams become sellers he probably still is. He brings everything teams are looking to add for a playoff run. Chiarot, gavrikov, and orlov are all mainly defensive defensemen and brought back first round picks.
Noah Hanifan is the best defenseman available, he's young, he plays a ton of minutes, and in all situations. Yet apparently no one thinks he's worth anything. Why? He said he wants to play in the states, everyone just assumes that means Boston, he himself said he was open to resigning with the Flames or other teams. Lindholm and chychrun both went for a 1st and 2 2nds. Ekholm went for pretty much 2 1sts and a roster player. Ekholm and Chychrun were both still under team control, but with a sign and trade there's no reason to say Hanifan couldn't bring back the same.
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CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
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  1. Tanev, Christopher (2 250 000 $ retained)
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
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    Tanev retained
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    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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      Tanev retained
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      1. Grzelcyk, Matt
      2. Lohrei, Mason
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
      BOS
      1. Hanifin, Noah (2 475 000 $ retained)
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      1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)
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      3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (DET)
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        Hanifan, sign and trade
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          Hanifan sign and trade
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          28 janv. à 8 h 35
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          I'd do a 3rd and Hunter B for Tanev w/ retention. Most I'd be willing to pay!
          28 janv. à 10 h 55
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          Bcarlo25
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          Quoting: Shaun80
          Lohrei is only a premium prospect because the Bruins have none. Gryzlyck is a cap dump. At the same age Lindholm had never come close to putting up the points Hanifan has. He had a great season last year but other then that what made him a legit #1 dman?
          I said chychrun brought back a 1st and 2nds. Hanifan is only 2 years older.


          oh boy.
          1. in his first year of professional hockey, lohrei looks at home in the NHL. that's rare for a defensemen, and given his combination of size and skating ability, he is most certainly a premium prospect. There's probably like five teams in the league that have the kind of blue line that can afford to not have him in the lineup on a nightly basis. the bruins are one of them.
          2. Grzelcyk has been a legit top four d man in the NHL for the last five years at a cap hit under four million. He's spent a lot of that time getting top pair assignments playing with McAvoy. A bad month coming off an injury doesn't come remotely close to pushing him into the cap dump category. If you disagree, you don't know who the player is, so it isn't particularly worth discussing.
          3. Lindholm is a defensive defensemen. Why are points even entering into this discussion. Just go watch him play.
          4. i must have misread, my bad.
          5. The age isn't the issue here regarding hanifin vs chychrun. As I mentioned, it's the contract. One is a pending UFA rental, the other had three years of term on a fantastic contract. They shouldn't be brought up in the same conversation.

          It won't take long - we can just wait, and you can be really disappointed in the return. Or you can just look back at actual good comparisons of other rental D men.
           
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