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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #3: After Further Review...

13 févr. à 12 h 41
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Yeah, because what the league thinks isn't in line with what should happen... It's never been like that... If that's your excuse for why Rielly deserves anymore than 3, than you are wrong... Rielly's main point of contact was the shoulder, and it rode up to the head, Greig's also fine after the play and Rielly's decision didn't come out of nowhere... That's shouldn't be more than 2 games...




Neither were! Trouba's was after a scrummed everyone was debriefing and he, two handed, chopped on Fredric's head... There was no hockey play there! Lizzotte, the play was in a different zone, and Morrissey was willing to drop his gloves (which he did, Greig turtled, guaranteed if Greig dropped gloves, we wouldn't have batted an eye)



Rielly went to rough Greig up via cross checks... It's happened countless times, the only difference is that Greig turtled, making the stick ride up to the head... What's stopping a guy like Tkachuk or Cousins from doing the same in a playoff series in the middle of a scrum? If you want, I can show countless examples or guys roughing each other up via cross checks...

And it's not that bad of a punishment for the Leafs, they can rally behind it and could go 4-1-0 (as they've gone 14-2-1 when Rielly wasn't playing last year via injury). Ask anybody in that Leafs room, and they all support Rielly's decision...

And please, when does someone face wash as a retaliatory act


Look, we are obviously not going to agree here. I think it's childish to point fingers at other teams and say "but he got away with it!!!111" when your guy is caught red-handed. Rielly did something incredibly stupid and deserves whatever suspension he's getting, and I personally hope it's a long one so it can serve as a deterrent to get this kind of garbage out of the game.

But I wanted to highlight two things you said. First off - I actually agree with you here, and I think I've been pretty open throughout this thread that Rielly could have easily made the choice to throw down the gloves if he wanted to. The reason I keep being amazed that you're blaming Greig for "turtling" is because I don't see how he can actually turtle when he was never offered anything but a cross check thrown towards his head. Most folks would call that "bracing for impact" but you keep trying to shift the blame on to Greig for what, exactly? Should he have dropped the gloves and tried to throw hands at Rielly's stick?

And the second part is what I've been saying about Rielly being a selfish dickhead here. You're 100% right - everyone in the league is talking about this, and what's stopping a guy like Matt Tkachuk or Brad Marchand from slapping home an empty-netter in a playoff game to try and get under Rielly's skin again? If you don't think a guy like that is going to relish the opportunity to get the Leafs to make another stupid, emotional decision, then I've got a bridge to sell you. Rielly's gonna have to play like a saint now, because next time he'll be a "repeat offender" (for whatever that counts at DoPS).
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13 févr. à 13 h 45
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Marchand to play in #1000 today!!

* Turns out that's just 2-shy of his suspensions tally!
* I'm taking the OVER that he uses that Silver Stick for more than just stick-handling!

Way to go Brad...............LOL
13 févr. à 13 h 52
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Marchand to play in #1000 today!!

* Turns out that's just 2-shy of his suspensions tally!
* I'm taking the OVER that he uses that Silver Stick for more than just stick-handling!

Way to go Brad...............LOL


I dislike Brad on the ice, but that's exactly why I respect him so much. Great dude and one of the best pests the league has ever seen. Also hard to hate a fellow Leafs fan! Congrats to Marchy on 1000
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13 févr. à 14 h 24
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OMG I almost lost smoothie out of my nose when I saw this. Ohhh this is not a good day for our friends in Toranna.

https://twitter.com/Senators/status/1757208003911000522
13 févr. à 15 h 5
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OMG I almost lost smoothie out of my nose when I saw this. Ohhh this is not a good day for our friends in Toranna.

https://twitter.com/Senators/status/1757208003911000522


never been more owned in my life looking at that
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13 févr. à 15 h 10
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never been more owned in my life looking at that


Sorry, I should have attached a warning.
13 févr. à 15 h 26
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Urgh, I'm trying to listen to all the Toronto sports radio stations for news or something, but they're all talking about everything in the world except Rielly. How odd.
13 févr. à 16 h 49
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So Rielly’s hearing was changed to a virtual one due to a snowstorm in NYC

Doubt that changes the outcome but still
13 févr. à 17 h 25
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So Rielly’s hearing was changed to a virtual one due to a snowstorm in NYC

Doubt that changes the outcome but still


"but still" what? This is such an insignificant piece of news that contributes to literally nothing lmfao
13 févr. à 17 h 26
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New opinion:

Nhl should give Morgan Reilly and that senators guy a $500,000 cash bonus each and say thank you.

Nobody is talking about certain criminal proceedings.
13 févr. à 17 h 32
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Sens are memeing with the Greig stuff but man they got to be careful not to be encouraging him to do what he did again

As its gonna be a pretty short career with all the poundings hes gonna receive

Cause man some teams be worse when it comes to dealing with this stuff.
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13 févr. à 17 h 39
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Look, we are obviously not going to agree here. I think it's childish to point fingers at other teams and say "but he got away with it!!!111" when your guy is caught red-handed. Rielly did something incredibly stupid and deserves whatever suspension he's getting, and I personally hope it's a long one so it can serve as a deterrent to get this kind of garbage out of the game.

But I wanted to highlight two things you said. First off - I actually agree with you here, and I think I've been pretty open throughout this thread that Rielly could have easily made the choice to throw down the gloves if he wanted to. The reason I keep being amazed that you're blaming Greig for "turtling" is because I don't see how he can actually turtle when he was never offered anything but a cross check thrown towards his head. Most folks would call that "bracing for impact" but you keep trying to shift the blame on to Greig for what, exactly? Should he have dropped the gloves and tried to throw hands at Rielly's stick?

And the second part is what I've been saying about Rielly being a selfish dickhead here. You're 100% right - everyone in the league is talking about this, and what's stopping a guy like Matt Tkachuk or Brad Marchand from slapping home an empty-netter in a playoff game to try and get under Rielly's skin again? If you don't think a guy like that is going to relish the opportunity to get the Leafs to make another stupid, emotional decision, then I've got a bridge to sell you. Rielly's gonna have to play like a saint now, because next time he'll be a "repeat offender" (for whatever that counts at DoPS).


We aren't going to agree

I think it's fair to say that the majority of these types of plays are 1-2 game suspensions and that Greig was not hurt on the play so that's why it should be 1-2 games...

Greig turtled bc as soon as he received contact to the shoulder, he fell down or was in the process of falling down which rode the stick up... That annoys me based on principle that a cross check to the shoulder should require you to fall down

Who says that it's going to be Rielly again? The entire Leafs room agreed that Rielly did the 'appropriate thing', what's now stopping Keefe from sending out Reaves as the 3rd man in and beating the snot out of Tkachuk/Cousins/Marchand in that situation? Rielly was doing the thing that everyone says the Leafs don't do and that is having the decency to not allow the other team to disrespect them... Guarantee if it's playoffs, something like the response I outline happens and the Panthers/Bruins are without their agitators... and now, the guys that Keefe send out know that it's an entire team thing, not just a them thing so I would argue it's not selfish on Rielly's part...
13 févr. à 17 h 52
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I’m on the fire Waddell train if he trades Necas for a midget 30 yo goalie
13 févr. à 17 h 54
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I’m on the fire Waddell train if he trades Necas for a midget 30 yo goalie


Should’ve fired him when you gave KK 8 years and almost 5 million a year
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13 févr. à 18 h 15
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streets are saying 5 games for the gloat morgan rielly
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13 févr. à 18 h 21
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I’m on the fire Waddell train if he trades Necas for a midget 30 yo goalie


Necas for Saros would be the trade that brings the Cup back to Raleigh 🤷‍♂️
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13 févr. à 18 h 21
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Yeah, word is Rielly is getting five games - an absolute reacharound gift, but we'll hear endless cries of persecution anyway. **** the NHL.
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13 févr. à 18 h 44
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Yeah, word is Rielly is getting five games - an absolute reacharound gift, but we'll hear endless cries of persecution anyway. **** the NHL.


But if it was a player on any other team they would only get fined!! The NHL has an agenda against the Leafs!!
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13 févr. à 18 h 55
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Five games is W for Rielly.

Next time Leafs are down a goal late, which is most likely?

A. Ryan Reaves on the ice for 6v5
B. Opposing shooter gets too casual and pulls a Stefan
C. Slap shot
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13 févr. à 18 h 55
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The Leafs "out" list tonight:
- Rielly (Suspended)
- Timmins (Ilness)
- Woll (Ankle)
- Murray (Hip)
- Muzzin (Neck)
- Klingberg (Hip)
- Jones (Undisclosed)
- Jarnkrok (Hand)
- Marner (Ilness)
- Tavares (Ilness)

Ryan freaking Reaves is on the 2nd line, if the Blues don't win, that's embarrassing
13 févr. à 18 h 57
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Next time Leafs are down a goal late, which is most likely?

A. Ryan Reaves on the ice for 6v5
B. Opposing shooter gets too casual and pulls a Stefan
C. Slap shot


Ryan reaves is on the 2nd lines tonight... I think it's pretty obvious
13 févr. à 18 h 58
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Ryan reaves is on the 2nd lines tonight... I think it's pretty obvious


They should have paid him $11.5m
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13 févr. à 19 h 0
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
They should have paid him $11.5m


That's just how many players the Leafs have out...

the second line is Steve-Holmberg-Reaves
13 févr. à 20 h 25
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That's just how many players the Leafs have out...

the second line is Steve-Holmberg-Reaves


So who is the poor unsuspecting Blues player that pays for Ridly Grieg’s crimes?
13 févr. à 20 h 42
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So who is the poor unsuspecting Blues player that pays for Ridly Grieg’s crimes?


Unless I’ve missed it:

Reaves (along with both Tkachuk’s) have never fought a Blue.

We make them like us so they don’t hurt us.
 
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