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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #3: After Further Review...

11 janv. à 18 h 34
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On the bright side, this will put a damper on all the "zegras for kakko and a 7th" trades. They were taking up valuable space in the ACGM board which should be used for the Tanev to Leafs trades.
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11 janv. à 18 h 39
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On the bright side, this will put a damper on all the "zegras for kakko and a 7th" trades. They were taking up valuable space in the ACGM board which should be used for the Tanev to Leafs trades.


Actually it seems people have moved on to something new

As apparently and im taking this with salt

There's apparently been talks or something in the works whereby Robertson + Draft compensation are going to CBJ for Jenner + a Dman

No name has been revealed and I have 0 idea where this came from but yea thats the new thing rn
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11 janv. à 20 h 37
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Quoting: aadoyle
Actually it seems people have moved on to something new

As apparently and im taking this with salt

There's apparently been talks or something in the works whereby Robertson + Draft compensation are going to CBJ for Jenner + a Dman

No name has been revealed and I have 0 idea where this came from but yea thats the new thing rn


why would CBJ be trading their captain
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11 janv. à 20 h 38
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why would CBJ be trading their captain


Idk but we have seen teams name a guy captain than move him

Minten was captain for 6 days then was traded to Blades

I dont see it happening but its weird it comes out now lul
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11 janv. à 21 h 52
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Vancouver Canucks Canucks had NO business winning the OT against PITTPittsburgh Penguins ...
They completed one pass - the breakaway to Petey - who stickhandled & scored like an Atom B player who chugged to much root beer pre-game.

Oh well, gamesheet-W has no video I spose.
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11 janv. à 22 h 44
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There are four teams on 8-game winning streaks (EDM, FLA, SEA, WPG).
11 janv. à 22 h 50
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Quoting: McGruff
Vancouver Canucks Canucks had NO business winning the OT against PITTPittsburgh Penguins ...
They completed one pass - the breakaway to Petey - who stickhandled & scored like an Atom B player who chugged to much root beer pre-game.

Oh well, gamesheet-W has no video I spose.


I’m just happy we got the point
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12 janv. à 1 h 31
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Honestly if Gio aint a healthy scratch then Keefe's words mean zip lul

As he made a claim for new standards on tolerable defense and we saw what happens when u do a giveaway to Kampf

If Gio aint a healthy scratch Keefe be doing the classic walk back
12 janv. à 6 h 1
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My over- and underrated list for each team.

Overrated
Anaheim: Trevor Zegras
Arizona: Lawson Crouse
Boston: Brandon Carlo
Buffalo: Owen Power
Calgary: Elias Lindholm
Carolina: Andrei Svechnikov
Chicago: Connor Murphy
Colorado: Bowen Byram
Columbus: Patrik Laine
Dallas: Esa Lindell
Detroit: Ben Chiarot
Edmonton: Darnell Nurse
Florida: Brandon Montour
Los Angeles: Pierre-Luc Dubois
Minnesota: Marcus Foligno
Montréal: Nick Suzuki
Nashville: Luke Schenn
New Jersey: Timo Meier
N.Y. Islanders: Jean-Gabriel Pageau
N.Y. Rangers: Jacob Trouba
Ottawa: Josh Norris
Philadelphia: Scott Laughton
Pittsburgh: Ryan Graves
San Jose: Mario Ferraro
Seattle: Yanni Gourde
St. Louis: Jordan Binnington
Tampa Bay: Mikhail Sergachev
Toronto: John Tavares
Vancouver: Thatcher Demko
Vegas: Ivan Barbashev
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg: Brenden Dillon

Underrated
Anaheim: Adam Henrique
Arizona: J.J. Moser
Boston: Matt Grzelcyk
Buffalo: J.J. Peterka
Calgary: Blake Coleman
Carolina: Brady Skjei
Chicago: Jason Dickinson
Colorado: Artturi Lehkonen
Columbus: Johnny Gaudreau
Dallas: Thomas Harley
Detroit: Daniel Sprong
Edmonton: Warren Foegele
Florida: Evan Rodrigues
Los Angeles: Trevor Moore
Minnesota: Jonas Brodin
Montréal: Mike Matheson
Nashville: Gustav Nyquist
New Jersey: Alexander Holtz
N.Y. Islanders: Noah Dobson
N.Y. Rangers: Erik Gustafsson
Ottawa: Mathieu Joseph
Philadelphia: Morgan Frost
Pittsburgh: Marcus Pettersson
San Jose: Fabian Zetterlund
Seattle: Will Borgen
St. Louis: Pavel Buchnevich
Tampa Bay: Mikey Eyssimont
Toronto: Timothy Liljegren
Vancouver: Nils Höglander
Vegas: Michael Amadio
Washington: Dylan Strome
Winnipeg: Cole Perfetti
12 janv. à 9 h 39
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Quoting: Isles10
My over- and underrated list for each team.

Overrated
Anaheim: Trevor Zegras
Arizona: Lawson Crouse
Boston: Brandon Carlo
Buffalo: Owen Power
Calgary: Elias Lindholm
Carolina: Andrei Svechnikov
Chicago: Connor Murphy
Colorado: Bowen Byram
Columbus: Patrik Laine
Dallas: Esa Lindell
Detroit: Ben Chiarot
Edmonton: Darnell Nurse
Florida: Brandon Montour
Los Angeles: Pierre-Luc Dubois
Minnesota: Marcus Foligno
Montréal: Nick Suzuki
Nashville: Luke Schenn
New Jersey: Timo Meier
N.Y. Islanders: Jean-Gabriel Pageau
N.Y. Rangers: Jacob Trouba
Ottawa: Josh Norris
Philadelphia: Scott Laughton
Pittsburgh: Ryan Graves
San Jose: Mario Ferraro
Seattle: Yanni Gourde
St. Louis: Jordan Binnington
Tampa Bay: Mikhail Sergachev
Toronto: John Tavares
Vancouver: Thatcher Demko
Vegas: Ivan Barbashev
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg: Brenden Dillon

Underrated
Anaheim: Adam Henrique
Arizona: J.J. Moser
Boston: Matt Grzelcyk
Buffalo: J.J. Peterka
Calgary: Blake Coleman
Carolina: Brady Skjei
Chicago: Jason Dickinson
Colorado: Artturi Lehkonen
Columbus: Johnny Gaudreau
Dallas: Thomas Harley
Detroit: Daniel Sprong
Edmonton: Warren Foegele
Florida: Evan Rodrigues
Los Angeles: Trevor Moore
Minnesota: Jonas Brodin
Montréal: Mike Matheson
Nashville: Gustav Nyquist
New Jersey: Alexander Holtz
N.Y. Islanders: Noah Dobson
N.Y. Rangers: Erik Gustafsson
Ottawa: Mathieu Joseph
Philadelphia: Morgan Frost
Pittsburgh: Marcus Pettersson
San Jose: Fabian Zetterlund
Seattle: Will Borgen
St. Louis: Pavel Buchnevich
Tampa Bay: Mikey Eyssimont
Toronto: Timothy Liljegren
Vancouver: Nils Höglander
Vegas: Michael Amadio
Washington: Dylan Strome
Winnipeg: Cole Perfetti


Very curious to know why Suzuki is overrated. Most Habs fans think he's a 2C on a cup contender, but he's playing 1C for us right now
Graves has been pretty bad this szn and everyone knows it, hes playing like a 3LD
Zegras has been rated so low by everyone that at this point he might be fairly rated or even underrated imo
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12 janv. à 9 h 45
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Quoting: Isles10
My over- and underrated list for each team.

Overrated
Anaheim: Trevor Zegras
Arizona: Lawson Crouse
Boston: Brandon Carlo
Buffalo: Owen Power
Calgary: Elias Lindholm
Carolina: Andrei Svechnikov
Chicago: Connor Murphy
Colorado: Bowen Byram
Columbus: Patrik Laine
Dallas: Esa Lindell
Detroit: Ben Chiarot
Edmonton: Darnell Nurse
Florida: Brandon Montour
Los Angeles: Pierre-Luc Dubois
Minnesota: Marcus Foligno
Montréal: Nick Suzuki
Nashville: Luke Schenn
New Jersey: Timo Meier
N.Y. Islanders: Jean-Gabriel Pageau
N.Y. Rangers: Jacob Trouba
Ottawa: Josh Norris
Philadelphia: Scott Laughton
Pittsburgh: Ryan Graves
San Jose: Mario Ferraro
Seattle: Yanni Gourde
St. Louis: Jordan Binnington
Tampa Bay: Mikhail Sergachev
Toronto: John Tavares
Vancouver: Thatcher Demko
Vegas: Ivan Barbashev
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg: Brenden Dillon

Underrated
Anaheim: Adam Henrique
Arizona: J.J. Moser
Boston: Matt Grzelcyk
Buffalo: J.J. Peterka
Calgary: Blake Coleman
Carolina: Brady Skjei
Chicago: Jason Dickinson
Colorado: Artturi Lehkonen
Columbus: Johnny Gaudreau
Dallas: Thomas Harley
Detroit: Daniel Sprong
Edmonton: Warren Foegele
Florida: Evan Rodrigues
Los Angeles: Trevor Moore
Minnesota: Jonas Brodin
Montréal: Mike Matheson
Nashville: Gustav Nyquist
New Jersey: Alexander Holtz
N.Y. Islanders: Noah Dobson
N.Y. Rangers: Erik Gustafsson
Ottawa: Mathieu Joseph
Philadelphia: Morgan Frost
Pittsburgh: Marcus Pettersson
San Jose: Fabian Zetterlund
Seattle: Will Borgen
St. Louis: Pavel Buchnevich
Tampa Bay: Mikey Eyssimont
Toronto: Timothy Liljegren
Vancouver: Nils Höglander
Vegas: Michael Amadio
Washington: Dylan Strome
Winnipeg: Cole Perfetti


I was gonna ask why you picked JT for Toronto but then I saw your username lol
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12 janv. à 10 h 41
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Quoting: Isles10
My over- and underrated list for each team.

Overrated
Anaheim: Trevor Zegras
Arizona: Lawson Crouse
Boston: Brandon Carlo
Buffalo: Owen Power
Calgary: Elias Lindholm
Carolina: Andrei Svechnikov
Chicago: Connor Murphy
Colorado: Bowen Byram
Columbus: Patrik Laine
Dallas: Esa Lindell
Detroit: Ben Chiarot
Edmonton: Darnell Nurse
Florida: Brandon Montour
Los Angeles: Pierre-Luc Dubois
Minnesota: Marcus Foligno
Montréal: Nick Suzuki
Nashville: Luke Schenn
New Jersey: Timo Meier
N.Y. Islanders: Jean-Gabriel Pageau
N.Y. Rangers: Jacob Trouba
Ottawa: Josh Norris
Philadelphia: Scott Laughton
Pittsburgh: Ryan Graves
San Jose: Mario Ferraro
Seattle: Yanni Gourde
St. Louis: Jordan Binnington
Tampa Bay: Mikhail Sergachev
Toronto: John Tavares
Vancouver: Thatcher Demko
Vegas: Ivan Barbashev
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg: Brenden Dillon

Underrated
Anaheim: Adam Henrique
Arizona: J.J. Moser
Boston: Matt Grzelcyk
Buffalo: J.J. Peterka
Calgary: Blake Coleman
Carolina: Brady Skjei
Chicago: Jason Dickinson
Colorado: Artturi Lehkonen
Columbus: Johnny Gaudreau
Dallas: Thomas Harley
Detroit: Daniel Sprong
Edmonton: Warren Foegele
Florida: Evan Rodrigues
Los Angeles: Trevor Moore
Minnesota: Jonas Brodin
Montréal: Mike Matheson
Nashville: Gustav Nyquist
New Jersey: Alexander Holtz
N.Y. Islanders: Noah Dobson
N.Y. Rangers: Erik Gustafsson
Ottawa: Mathieu Joseph
Philadelphia: Morgan Frost
Pittsburgh: Marcus Pettersson
San Jose: Fabian Zetterlund
Seattle: Will Borgen
St. Louis: Pavel Buchnevich
Tampa Bay: Mikey Eyssimont
Toronto: Timothy Liljegren
Vancouver: Nils Höglander
Vegas: Michael Amadio
Washington: Dylan Strome
Winnipeg: Cole Perfetti


NOT OP It should be Kyle Okposo
12 janv. à 11 h 14
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I want nothing to do with Dumba to Edmonton. Give me a right-handed #3C, a #2RW, and a top-4 RHD to upgrade Ceci with. Maybe a backup.

Dumba is washed.


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12 janv. à 11 h 53
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Quoting: zk97
Very curious to know why Suzuki is overrated. Most Habs fans think he's a 2C on a cup contender, but he's playing 1C for us right now
Graves has been pretty bad this szn and everyone knows it, hes playing like a 3LD
Zegras has been rated so low by everyone that at this point he might be fairly rated or even underrated imo


Agreed with Suzuki. He’s one player habs fans definitely do not overrate. My pick for the habs would be Caufield. Obviously he’s a great young player but habs fans have very high expectations for him and I don’t think he’ll live up to them.
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12 janv. à 12 h 41
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My over- and underrated list for each team.

Overrated
Anaheim: Trevor Zegras
Arizona: Lawson Crouse
Boston: Brandon Carlo
Buffalo: Owen Power
Calgary: Elias Lindholm
Carolina: Andrei Svechnikov
Chicago: Connor Murphy
Colorado: Bowen Byram
Columbus: Patrik Laine
Dallas: Esa Lindell
Detroit: Ben Chiarot
Edmonton: Darnell Nurse
Florida: Brandon Montour
Los Angeles: Pierre-Luc Dubois
Minnesota: Marcus Foligno
Montréal: Nick Suzuki
Nashville: Luke Schenn
New Jersey: Timo Meier
N.Y. Islanders: Jean-Gabriel Pageau
N.Y. Rangers: Jacob Trouba
Ottawa: Josh Norris
Philadelphia: Scott Laughton
Pittsburgh: Ryan Graves
San Jose: Mario Ferraro
Seattle: Yanni Gourde
St. Louis: Jordan Binnington
Tampa Bay: Mikhail Sergachev
Toronto: John Tavares
Vancouver: Thatcher Demko
Vegas: Ivan Barbashev
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg: Brenden Dillon

Underrated
Anaheim: Adam Henrique
Arizona: J.J. Moser
Boston: Matt Grzelcyk
Buffalo: J.J. Peterka
Calgary: Blake Coleman
Carolina: Brady Skjei
Chicago: Jason Dickinson
Colorado: Artturi Lehkonen
Columbus: Johnny Gaudreau
Dallas: Thomas Harley
Detroit: Daniel Sprong
Edmonton: Warren Foegele
Florida: Evan Rodrigues
Los Angeles: Trevor Moore
Minnesota: Jonas Brodin
Montréal: Mike Matheson
Nashville: Gustav Nyquist
New Jersey: Alexander Holtz
N.Y. Islanders: Noah Dobson
N.Y. Rangers: Erik Gustafsson
Ottawa: Mathieu Joseph
Philadelphia: Morgan Frost
Pittsburgh: Marcus Pettersson
San Jose: Fabian Zetterlund
Seattle: Will Borgen
St. Louis: Pavel Buchnevich
Tampa Bay: Mikey Eyssimont
Toronto: Timothy Liljegren
Vancouver: Nils Höglander
Vegas: Michael Amadio
Washington: Dylan Strome
Winnipeg: Cole Perfetti


Hard to argue with Dickinson, but Alex Vlasic has been one of the better shutdown D-men in the league with a plus rating on a terrible team and it seems like nobody knows who he is. I'll always go to bat for Kurashev too
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12 janv. à 15 h 8
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Apparently, the Sens are the only team without a point so far in 2024, this season has been hell for the Sens and it's not getting better
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12 janv. à 18 h 32
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Hard to argue with Dickinson, but Alex Vlasic has been one of the better shutdown D-men in the league with a plus rating on a terrible team and it seems like nobody knows who he is. I'll always go to bat for Kurashev too


Yeah Chicago was one of the toughest choices lol. I almost went with Vlasic, but Dickinson was more fun imo.

Do you agree with Connor Murphy being the most overrated? Seth Jones seemed to easy if you know what I mean?
12 janv. à 18 h 36
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Very curious to know why Suzuki is overrated. Most Habs fans think he's a 2C on a cup contender, but he's playing 1C for us right now
Graves has been pretty bad this szn and everyone knows it, hes playing like a 3LD
Zegras has been rated so low by everyone that at this point he might be fairly rated or even underrated imo


It just seems like some fans want Suzuki to be the new Bergeron, which is so unfair to him and the Canadiens.
12 janv. à 18 h 36
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NOT OP It should be Kyle Okposo


Haha yeah, Buffalo was a hard one, Power seemed more fun.
12 janv. à 18 h 37
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I was gonna ask why you picked JT for Toronto but then I saw your username lol


wink
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12 janv. à 19 h 1
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Apparently, the Sens are the only team without a point so far in 2024, this season has been hell for the Sens and it's not getting better


I knew they wouldn’t be good, but this is a level of incompetence I didn’t expect
12 janv. à 19 h 4
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My over- and underrated list for each team.

Overrated
Anaheim: Trevor Zegras
Arizona: Lawson Crouse
Boston: Brandon Carlo
Buffalo: Owen Power
Calgary: Elias Lindholm
Carolina: Andrei Svechnikov
Chicago: Connor Murphy
Colorado: Bowen Byram
Columbus: Patrik Laine
Dallas: Esa Lindell
Detroit: Ben Chiarot
Edmonton: Darnell Nurse
Florida: Brandon Montour
Los Angeles: Pierre-Luc Dubois
Minnesota: Marcus Foligno
Montréal: Nick Suzuki
Nashville: Luke Schenn
New Jersey: Timo Meier
N.Y. Islanders: Jean-Gabriel Pageau
N.Y. Rangers: Jacob Trouba
Ottawa: Josh Norris
Philadelphia: Scott Laughton
Pittsburgh: Ryan Graves
San Jose: Mario Ferraro
Seattle: Yanni Gourde
St. Louis: Jordan Binnington
Tampa Bay: Mikhail Sergachev
Toronto: John Tavares
Vancouver: Thatcher Demko
Vegas: Ivan Barbashev
Washington: Alexander Ovechkin
Winnipeg: Brenden Dillon

Underrated
Anaheim: Adam Henrique
Arizona: J.J. Moser
Boston: Matt Grzelcyk
Buffalo: J.J. Peterka
Calgary: Blake Coleman
Carolina: Brady Skjei
Chicago: Jason Dickinson
Colorado: Artturi Lehkonen
Columbus: Johnny Gaudreau
Dallas: Thomas Harley
Detroit: Daniel Sprong
Edmonton: Warren Foegele
Florida: Evan Rodrigues
Los Angeles: Trevor Moore
Minnesota: Jonas Brodin
Montréal: Mike Matheson
Nashville: Gustav Nyquist
New Jersey: Alexander Holtz
N.Y. Islanders: Noah Dobson
N.Y. Rangers: Erik Gustafsson
Ottawa: Mathieu Joseph
Philadelphia: Morgan Frost
Pittsburgh: Marcus Pettersson
San Jose: Fabian Zetterlund
Seattle: Will Borgen
St. Louis: Pavel Buchnevich
Tampa Bay: Mikey Eyssimont
Toronto: Timothy Liljegren
Vancouver: Nils Höglander
Vegas: Michael Amadio
Washington: Dylan Strome
Winnipeg: Cole Perfetti


I 100% agree with you about Dickinson

Honestly finding an overrated player on our team is pretty much impossible so I can forgive you for saying its Murphy
12 janv. à 19 h 9
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Quoting: Isles10
It just seems like some fans want Suzuki to be the new Bergeron, which is so unfair to him and the Canadiens.


Want? Maybe. Think he'll become? Nope
12 janv. à 19 h 13
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Underrated
Anaheim: Adam Henrique
Calgary: Blake Coleman
New Jersey: Alexander Holtz
San Jose: Fabian Zetterlund


I would like to nominate Yegor Sharangovich and Jesper Bratt to this list of Devils draftees.
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12 janv. à 20 h 29
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Three of Flyers best NCAA prospects could elect free agency this summer

Massimo Rizzo (legit Hobey Baker candidate)
Hunter McDonald (one of the best defensive dman in NCAA)
Bryce Brodzinski (candidate for All Big Ten team)
 
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