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Créé par: GiggywithGibby
Équipe: 2024-25 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 21 nov. 2023
Publié: 8 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This ACGM operates under the assumption that Treliving won't meet Nylanders contract demands, so they ship out his signing rights to a team that will. I'm return for Nylanders rights, Toronto gets Strome to slot in on the 2nd line. No, he won't replace Nylanders production, but he's a versatile 2nd line playmaker who can put up 50-60 points a season and takes faceoffs. This would allow Toronto to further flush out depth scoring and defense in the off season.

Yes, Toronto fans will like to point out they have more cap space than Anaheim does next season, but they also have less players signed, and many of the holes to fill are not cheap ones unless they look towards internal options (two top 6 forwards, #1RD, #2LD, entire third pairing, 2/3 the bottom 6, and a goalie)

D core isn't as strong as I'd like it to be, maybe getting Ristolainen for 2nd pair is better than Peeke on 3rd. Availability subject to Phillys season.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2850 000 $
52 500 000 $
31 100 000 $
53 000 000 $
3850 000 $
1950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
811 250 000 $
21 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
ANA
    Nylanders signing rights
    TOR
    1. Strome, Ryan
    Détails additionnels:
    Based off Seigenthaler's signing rights to Columbus for a 3rd, but instead of a pick, a player that can slot into the opening on the 2nd line.

    Is Strome as good as Nylander? No, but he can play RW and C on the second line and is cost controlled for 3 more seasons at a reasonable cap hit.

    Used in lieu of a pick as Toronto is still in win now mode.
    2.
    CBJ
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
    Détails additionnels:
    The Lyubushkin deal, excess bottom 4 RHD
    Rachats de contrats
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    2025
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    2026
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    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
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    950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
    C
    RFA - 2
    11 250 000 $11 250 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 8
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    6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
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    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
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    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 6
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    3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA
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    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    850 000 $850 000 $
    C
    RFA
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    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    AD
    RFA
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    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
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    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance800 000 $$800K)
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    812 500 $812 500 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    950 000 $950 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA
    Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    850 000 $850 000 $
    DG/DD
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    8 déc. 2023 à 20 h 40
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    Leafs decline to sell his signing rights and he wouldn’t waive for the ducks anyways
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    8 déc. 2023 à 20 h 43
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    Nylander will resign in to
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    8 déc. 2023 à 20 h 47
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    * Severson was traded to CBJ (not Siegenthaler)
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    Leafs are not doing this
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    8 déc. 2023 à 21 h 5
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    Leafs decline to sell his signing rights and he wouldn’t waive for the ducks anyways


    Firstly, it's for his signing rights, season would be over, whether he would waive or not is irrelevant, there's nothing to waive. Secondly, to assume that Anaheim is on his 10 team list, or that he wouldn't waive to come here is frankly horsesh*t, we're not some backwater metro in a flyover state, were 30 miles from Los Angeles and have great weather year round. Thirdly, Vegas was the first team to win a cup with one player making 8 figures, resigning Nylander puts the Leafs at 4 players making in excess of (or as near as makes no difference) $11 million. It's commiting to the same cycle again of not having enough cap space to flush out a roster. Leafs currently have 34.2 million in cap space next season, but a whopping 12 holes to fill. Sign Nylander to 10.5 and you're left with 23.7 million to acquire 11 players, including two top 4 D and a top 6LW, and a tandem goalie.

    Toronto really needs to start asking if resigning Nylander is the smart thing to do, or if they should be looking at him as an own rental.
    8 déc. 2023 à 21 h 8
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    Firstly, it's for his signing rights, season would be over, whether he would waive or not is irrelevant, there's nothing to waive. Secondly, to assume that Anaheim is on his 10 team list, or that he wouldn't waive to come here is frankly horsesh*t, we're not some backwater metro in a flyover state, were 30 miles from Los Angeles and have great weather year round. Thirdly, Vegas was the first team to win a cup with one player making 8 figures, resigning Nylander puts the Leafs at 4 players making in excess of (or as near as makes no difference) $11 million. It's commiting to the same cycle again of not having enough cap space to flush out a roster. Leafs currently have 34.2 million in cap space next season, but a whopping 12 holes to fill. Sign Nylander to 10.5 and you're left with 23.7 million to acquire 11 players, including two top 4 D and a top 6LW, and a tandem goalie.

    Toronto really needs to start asking if resigning Nylander is the smart thing to do, or if they should be looking at him as an own rental.


    Resigning nylander is brads top priority it’s just a matter of time
    8 déc. 2023 à 21 h 11
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    * Severson was traded to CBJ (not Siegenthaler)


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    8 déc. 2023 à 21 h 28
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    I got the first letter right tears of joy


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    8 déc. 2023 à 22 h 26
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    "Yes, Toronto fans will like to point out they have more cap space than Anaheim does next season, but they also have less players signed, and many of the holes to fill are not cheap ones unless they look towards internal options (two top 6 forwards, #1RD, #2LD, entire third pairing, 2/3 the bottom 6, and a goalie)"

    That is exactly what they can, should, and likely will do.
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    9 déc. 2023 à 1 h 33
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    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    Firstly, it's for his signing rights, season would be over, whether he would waive or not is irrelevant, there's nothing to waive. Secondly, to assume that Anaheim is on his 10 team list, or that he wouldn't waive to come here is frankly horsesh*t, we're not some backwater metro in a flyover state, were 30 miles from Los Angeles and have great weather year round. Thirdly, Vegas was the first team to win a cup with one player making 8 figures, resigning Nylander puts the Leafs at 4 players making in excess of (or as near as makes no difference) $11 million. It's commiting to the same cycle again of not having enough cap space to flush out a roster. Leafs currently have 34.2 million in cap space next season, but a whopping 12 holes to fill. Sign Nylander to 10.5 and you're left with 23.7 million to acquire 11 players, including two top 4 D and a top 6LW, and a tandem goalie.

    Toronto really needs to start asking if resigning Nylander is the smart thing to do, or if they should be looking at him as an own rental.


    I think that's an entirely different argument that I don't think is without merit. Nylander's signing rights will have almost no value, and if they did, the Leafs wouldn't be using that to add a cap dump who is far from what they need.
    9 déc. 2023 à 2 h 29
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    I think that's an entirely different argument that I don't think is without merit. Nylander's signing rights will have almost no value, and if they did, the Leafs wouldn't be using that to add a cap dump who is far from what they need.


    Strome's on pace for 56 points this year, in what world is that a cap dump? Of the 55 forwards that are paid $5M (+-500k) he's 19th in scoring this season. He's a fine 2nd line player on a fine contract for what he brings to the team.
    9 déc. 2023 à 2 h 53
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    Strome's on pace for 56 points this year, in what world is that a cap dump? Of the 55 forwards that are paid $5M (+-500k) he's 19th in scoring this season. He's a fine 2nd line player on a fine contract for what he brings to the team.


    I mean trading him for the "signing rights" of the biggest UFA next year would suggest you think he's a cap dump as well. Regardless, he will be 31 next year with 3 years remaining at 5 mil. We already have our top 2 centers in Tavares and Matthews, so we'd be paying him 5 mil to be our 3C? Even if we did need a 2C, he scored 15 goals and 41 points last year, and is on pace for 56 points and fewer than 10 goals this year. That is not good enough to be a 2C on a contender, and he's paid too much to be a 3C.

    If we weren't to resign Nylander would have all that extra cap space to pursue guys like Hanifin, Tanev, Skjei, Pesce, Roy, E. Lindholm, Stamkos, Teuvo, Bertuzzi, Domi, Toffoli, Kane, Mantha etc. etc. All guys who could provide more value and fill more important roles than Strome would.
    9 déc. 2023 à 3 h 51
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    Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
    I mean trading him for the "signing rights" of the biggest UFA next year would suggest you think he's a cap dump as well. Regardless, he will be 31 next year with 3 years remaining at 5 mil. We already have our top 2 centers in Tavares and Matthews, so we'd be paying him 5 mil to be our 3C? Even if we did need a 2C, he scored 15 goals and 41 points last year, and is on pace for 56 points and fewer than 10 goals this year. That is not good enough to be a 2C on a contender, and he's paid too much to be a 3C.

    If we weren't to resign Nylander would have all that extra cap space to pursue guys like Hanifin, Tanev, Skjei, Pesce, Roy, E. Lindholm, Stamkos, Teuvo, Bertuzzi, Domi, Toffoli, Kane, Mantha etc. etc. All guys who could provide more value and fill more important roles than Strome would.


    No, I'm suggesting he's worth between a third and a second, not a cap dump. Knowing Toronto wants to stay competitive it seemed a more appealing piece than a pick that wouldn't turn into a roster player for at least 5 years, this is why I referenced when CBJ sent a third for Severson's signing rights.

    As to positional play, I'm suggesting you put him at 2RW, not 3C. He's capable of both and he's playing wing in Anaheim now.

    Whether they could provide more value is dependant on what you can get them signed for. I don't think Bertuzzi or Mantha are going to provide anywhere near the value, as UFAs are going to be looking for pay raises with the increased cap.
    9 déc. 2023 à 4 h 5
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    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    No, I'm suggesting he's worth between a third and a second, not a cap dump. Knowing Toronto wants to stay competitive it seemed a more appealing piece than a pick that wouldn't turn into a roster player for at least 5 years, this is why I referenced when CBJ sent a third for Severson's signing rights.

    As to positional play, I'm suggesting you put him at 2RW, not 3C. He's capable of both and he's playing wing in Anaheim now.

    Whether they could provide more value is dependant on what you can get them signed for. I don't think Bertuzzi or Mantha are going to provide anywhere near the value, as UFAs are going to be looking for pay raises with the increased cap.


    So you think at 31 years old, with 3 years remaining at $5 mil after he's just finished a season where he scored 10 goals and 56 points, scoring 15 goals and 41 points the year prior, that he'd be a good replacement for Nylander at 2RW?
    9 déc. 2023 à 9 h 22
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    And I’m sure nylander will still have a say if the leafs do sell his signing rights and zero chance he wants to go the rebuilding ducks
     
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