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If The Leafs Were Wicked Smaht

Créé par: KingExLeafs
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 2 déc. 2023
Publié: 2 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Coyle, Charlie
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Tavares, John (5 500 000 $ retained)
2.
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher
  2. Zary, Connor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (FLA)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $75 507 417 $0 $212 500 $7 992 583 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
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UFA - 7
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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3 550 000 $3 550 000 $
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775 000 $775 000 $
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
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UFA - 1
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 déc. 2023 à 22 h 32
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Ya bruins will keep Coyle and the picks.
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2 déc. 2023 à 22 h 37
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yeah, these are horrific for the leafs
2 déc. 2023 à 22 h 38
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Ya bruins will keep Coyle and the picks.


that's a very very funny joke
2 déc. 2023 à 22 h 40
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You meant to say dumb right?
2 déc. 2023 à 22 h 41
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Ya bruins will keep Coyle and the picks.


LOL... Tavares at 5.5 Mill >>>>>>>>>>> Coyle at 5.5
2 déc. 2023 à 22 h 52
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yeah, these are horrific for the leafs


Not as horrific as JT's contract or Nylander's potential one.
2 déc. 2023 à 22 h 53
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Not as horrific as JT's contract or Nylander's potential one.


no, because they are much much worse
2 déc. 2023 à 22 h 59
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Coyle is trash and will regress like the rest of that bruins team.
2 déc. 2023 à 23 h 14
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Calgary isn't doing that. The Florida pick can't be traded du to the conditions on their 1st to MTL.

Zary is a solid prospect, and Nylander isn't going to sign in Calgary
2 déc. 2023 à 23 h 38
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
that's a very very funny joke


Nah it’s the truth.
2 déc. 2023 à 23 h 39
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LOL... Tavares at 5.5 Mill >>>>>>>>>>> Coyle at 5.5


K. We’ll still keep Coyle and the picks. 🤷🏻‍♂️
2 déc. 2023 à 23 h 40
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Nah it’s the truth.


truly hilarious, i agree
2 déc. 2023 à 23 h 42
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
truly hilarious, i agree


Go have another drink, drown your sorrows.

Maybe someday you guys will figure out defense and goaltending matter. Lol
2 déc. 2023 à 23 h 45
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Go have another drink, drown your sorrows.

Maybe someday you guys will figure out defense and goaltending matter. Lol


and maybe one day you'll figure out this trade value matter. Lol
2 déc. 2023 à 23 h 46
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K. We’ll still keep Coyle and the picks. 🤷🏻‍♂️


And we'll keep Tavares and our captain
2 déc. 2023 à 23 h 49
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and maybe one day you'll figure out this trade value matter. Lol


You e right. But not right at the same time. How it affects the team is more important than who the better player is.

Coyle is our best defensive forward. He’s the top PK FW. He is winning 55% of his faceoffs and draws in against the other teams top line to shut them down.

He won’t continue to shoot 20+% and the offense will come back down to earth. Oh well.

Combine that with our la know draft picks…

Does JT do any of that? No? K. We’ll keep Coyle and the picks. Thanks. If they decide to add another center they will do it without creating a bigger hole than they are fixing.
2 déc. 2023 à 23 h 50
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And we'll keep Tavares and our captain


Appreciate it. 👍🏻
3 déc. 2023 à 0 h 26
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
Not as horrific as JT's contract or Nylander's potential one.


You do realize you would now effectively have Coyle for 10.75M until the Tavares contract expires? Just for a 1st+3rd.
3 déc. 2023 à 0 h 35
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You e right. But not right at the same time. How it affects the team is more important than who the better player is.

Coyle is our best defensive forward. He’s the top PK FW. He is winning 55% of his faceoffs and draws in against the other teams top line to shut them down.

He won’t continue to shoot 20+% and the offense will come back down to earth. Oh well.

Combine that with our la know draft picks…

Does JT do any of that? No? K. We’ll keep Coyle and the picks. Thanks. If they decide to add another center they will do it without creating a bigger hole than they are fixing.


JT wins 60% of his faceoffs (he's much better than Coyle on the season and career-wise), but other than that he doesn't do the defensive and pking stuff that Coyle does. However, he would fill the 1C role which is a bigger hole than the 3C hole (what Coyle does can be done by a good defensive 3C). The trade would also screw the Leafs who would have a 10.75M for the duration of the Tavares contract.

The trade by no means is terrible for the Bruins as you make it sound. Now there could be better options for the Bruins assuming that they could get Lindholm for a 1st+3rd or slightly more, not because Lindholm is better than Tavares, but he too could fill that 1C role for them but would likely be a better fit for the team considering how good Bergeron was for them and that BOS is truly a team built on defense. Lindholm would also, if he re-signs, be around much longer so it's a better return on their investment.
3 déc. 2023 à 0 h 40
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JT wins 60% of his faceoffs (he's much better than Coyle on the season and career-wise), but other than that he doesn't do the defensive and pking stuff that Coyle does. However, he would fill the 1C role which is a bigger hole than the 3C hole (what Coyle does can be done by a good defensive 3C). The trade would also screw the Leafs who would have a 10.75M for the duration of the Tavares contract.

The trade by no means is terrible for the Bruins as you make it sound. Now there could be better options for the Bruins assuming that they could get Lindholm for a 1st+3rd or slightly more, not because Lindholm is better than Tavares, but he too could fill that 1C role for them but would likely be a better fit for the team considering how good Bergeron was for them and that BOS is truly a team built on defense.


I never said it was a bad deal for Boston. It favors them value wise. I just said they would not do it.

If they look for another center they will do it without using Coyle. 🤷🏻‍♂️
3 déc. 2023 à 0 h 42
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You do realize you would now effectively have Coyle for 10.75M until the Tavares contract expires? Just for a 1st+3rd.


Yes, just for a 1st and a 3rd, because this team isn't winning anything in spring, and the Leafs need to stack up on prospects for the future. Retaining on JT's contract for a year and a half will be manageable.
3 déc. 2023 à 1 h 2
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I never said it was a bad deal for Boston. It favors them value wise. I just said they would not do it.

If they look for another center they will do it without using Coyle. 🤷🏻‍♂️


I'm not saying the Bruins would do it and I also wasn't talking about trade value. You said "if [the Bruins] decide to add another center they will do it without creating a bigger hole than they are fixing." I'm saying they wouldn't be doing that because Tavares fills the 1C role and the only thing that you are losing is the strong defensive game of Coyle which is something a good 3C could do. So, you're moving the 1C hole to a 3C which is a smaller hole that typically could be fixed easier. So, I'm saying it's not a bad option.

I then said, the Bruins could have better options out there where they can keep Coyle and trade their 1st+3rd (even if they might have to add more) for a C or D like Lindholm or Hanifin who would likely be around longer than Tavares. Lindholm is also a better fit than Tavares is for the Bruins imo.

I feel like you didn't read what I wrote, but I can't blame you it's pretty late.
3 déc. 2023 à 1 h 23
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I'm not saying the Bruins would do it and I also wasn't talking about trade value. You said "if [the Bruins] decide to add another center they will do it without creating a bigger hole than they are fixing." I'm saying they wouldn't be doing that because Tavares fills the 1C role and the only thing that you are losing is the strong defensive game of Coyle which is something a good 3C could do. So, you're moving the 1C hole to a 3C which is a smaller hole that typically could be fixed easier. So, I'm saying it's not a bad option.

I then said, the Bruins could have better options out there where they can keep Coyle and trade their 1st+3rd (even if they might have to add more) for a C or D like Lindholm or Hanifin who would likely be around longer than Tavares. Lindholm is also a better fit than Tavares is for the Bruins imo.

I feel like you didn't read what I wrote, but I can't blame you it's pretty late.



No. I heard you. I just don’t think in the 1C is as big as a problem that it’s made out to be.

Zacha and Coyle are on pace to outproduce Bergy and DK from last year.

They won’t sustain their high shooting %. But as long as they continue to play this way, combined with the early arrival of Poitras the top 9 center slot has been a strength as opposed to a weakness. Could they use a stud? Sure. Who couldn’t? But it is not a pressing need…for now. They need to upgrade LD, ongoing problem since big Z and Krug, a goal scoring RW, and a goon more than they need the 1C currently.

Neither Zacha or Poitras going to fill the role Coyle does if he is moved. Beecher in a few years maybe.
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3 déc. 2023 à 2 h 8
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No. I heard you. I just don’t think in the 1C is as big as a problem that it’s made out to be.

Zacha and Coyle are on pace to outproduce Bergy and DK from last year.

They won’t sustain their high shooting %. But as long as they continue to play this way, combined with the early arrival of Poitras the top 9 center slot has been a strength as opposed to a weakness. Could they use a stud? Sure. Who couldn’t? But it is not a pressing need…for now. They need to upgrade LD, ongoing problem since big Z and Krug, a goal scoring RW, and a goon more than they need the 1C currently.

Neither Zacha or Poitras going to fill the role Coyle does if he is moved. Beecher in a few years maybe.


That's fair, although I'm not saying the 1C is a big problem for the Bruins for now just that it technically would be a bigger hole filled than the 3C hole that would be made. The question then would be how much assets would it cost to replace Coyle and if they have the cap. I would also say that Lindholm is a better option, but maybe just letting Zacha + Coyle take care of that role is the best option for now. Even if his shooting % comes down, but if he sustains it long enough I'm sure it would be a massive boost of confidence then maybe Zacha turns into a legit top 6 C center. He's 26 but there must be a reason that he was selected 6th OV in 2015. Maybe he could be the next J.T. Miller.

I agree that if they are just making one move they should upgrade that LD and try to get Hanifin, if they can do more (like getting Lindholm as well) that would be great. What's your thoughts on Krug returning? I remember a Bruin fan wanted that to happen in the off-season, just don't remember if it was your or not.
3 déc. 2023 à 9 h 37
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Appreciate it. 👍🏻


Same with you not accepting this offer
 
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