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Créé par: Braisman7
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2023
Publié: 16 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Fabbro, Dante
  2. Saros, Juuse (2 500 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Brown, Connor
  3. Campbell, Jack
  4. Holloway, Dylan
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
1st rounder is NOT protected which is why NSH does the deal.
2.
EDM
  1. Gourde, Yanni (2 508 888 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
SEA gets a younger player who is a better fit for their timeline.
SEA
  1. McLeod, Ryan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
Détails additionnels:
Bert has not worked out in TOR - Kane is the same type of guy theyd want
TOR
  1. Kane, Evander
Détails additionnels:
EDM gets flexibility long-term
4.
5.
EDM
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. Monahan, Sean
  3. Price, Carey
  4. Savard, David (1 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
MTL wants out of the price deal - goes straight to LTIR and makes acquisition cheaper in assets for EDM.
MTL
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
6.
Rachats de contrats
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2024
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de NSH
2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2026
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $83 208 570 $850 000 $15 000 $291 430 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
2 657 778 $2 657 778 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
874 125 $874 125 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1

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16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 23
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What would be your ask from NJ for Ryan McLeod? Would Tyce Thompson and a 3rd get it done? Would love both McLeod brothers on the Devils. Would be hard to play against
16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 29
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Canucks don't even let the call get to GMPA our secretary turns the deal down.
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16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 29
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Lots to talk about here.

1. None of these trades need to be made, Edmontons current roster gets them to the playoffs they just had a ridiculously bad slump to start the year but they're gonna be ok. Now if this team has cup winning aspirations a trade for a top-4 d-man and a bonafide 3C are needed.

2.Nashville rejects, they aren't going to retain on Saros a n d take on campbell. I don't think they ever retain on Saros, it would have to be a campbell dump which takes two 1sts + whatever it takes to get saros which is also equivalent to two 1sts.

3. Seattle also rejects, Mcleod has been AHL to start the year and Gourde is a middle 6 level player. They also will one million percent not retain on him

4.Edmonton easily rejects this one, Kane is the heart and soul of the team (proven by last night), he's also just a much better player than Bertuzzi. If Edmonton wants to win in the playoffs keeping a guy like Kane who can come through in the clutch is needed. Would be a terrible decision to move on from him

5.Canucks laugh you away, Hoglander is the perfect 3rd line piece that can still grow and Ceci is a cap dump that will take a 3rd to move on from

6.Both teams reject (Montreal more so), Edmonton doesn't want to have to deal with Price and Montreal could get much more value out of Savard, Monahan and Harris. Foegele is also a really solid 3rd liner that Edmonton needs, just an unnecessary move that neither team wants

7.Again no clue why this even needs to be done but the Blues reject pretty easily the value is just off here
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16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 33
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Quoting: Devsfan25
What would be your ask from NJ for Ryan McLeod? Would Tyce Thompson and a 3rd get it done? Would love both McLeod brothers on the Devils. Would be hard to play against


The value is probably a bit off but Kevin Bahl would be a great fit on the bottom pair for Edmonton to replace Desharnais. Don't know where Devils fans stand oh him but I'd be interested
16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 33
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leafs decline, also (has not worked out after game 15 of an 82 game season) makes this funny
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16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 34
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I only see that package to NSH being intriguing to them if this is at the deadline, and EDM is clearly a strong contender to win the draft lottery. If that's the case, I don't see why EDM would be trading for Saros & Fabbro.

Otherwise, there isn't enough quality here for NSH to trade both Saros and Fabbro, tie up their last retention spot for this year and next, and take on Campbell's contract.
16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: NucksnOilers
The value is probably a bit off but Kevin Bahl would be a great fit on the bottom pair for Edmonton to replace Desharnais. Don't know where Devils fans stand oh him but I'd be interested


Right now, I would say that Bahl is untouchable unless another shutdown dman was coming back the other way. The Devils have played poorly in their own zone and trading Bahl would only make matters worse
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16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 38
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Blues say no
16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 49
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
leafs decline, also (has not worked out after game 15 of an 82 game season) makes this funny

Holy u actually are clueless with little to zero knowledge about hockey. Kane is way better than bertuzzi and is also way better in the playoffs
16 nov. 2023 à 14 h 50
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Leafs decline and so does Bert’s nmc
16 nov. 2023 à 15 h 42
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Quoting: JKCpp
Holy u actually are clueless with little to zero knowledge about hockey. Kane is way better than bertuzzi and is also way better in the playoffs


way better is laughable, hes also 4 years older

also

kane has a .63ppg
bertuzzi has a 1.49
LMAO "way better"
both bring the physical element, bertuzzi also less of a cancer,
16 nov. 2023 à 15 h 44
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everyone says no to oilers
16 nov. 2023 à 15 h 54
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
way better is laughable, hes also 4 years older

also

kane has a .63ppg
bertuzzi has a 1.49
LMAO "way better"
both bring the physical element, bertuzzi also less of a cancer,


I'm not gonna go as hard as the other guy did but Kane is simply just a much better player

I don't know where you got that Bertuzzi number from but Bertuzzi's career numbers are .67 ppg with his best season being .91, while Kane's career numbers sit at .68 with his best season being .91 as well.

Now if we are talking whose better at what they do, both take dumb penalties but Kane has a much more physical presence who also is a much better "energy" guy.

Based on their goal scoring abilities

Projected 30 Goal Seasons
Kane: 8
Bertuzzi: 1

Not close at all on who the better goal scorer is. Also regarding the idea on kane being a 'Cancer" Kane has been nothing but a fantastic leader in Edmonton who has came through for the team in tough times (last night being an example) yeah he's had issues but I'm not going to let a gambling addiction and his ex-wife being the worst person on earth discredit every good deed he's done in Edmonton. The Kane being a "cancer" narrative has been dead for a while.

Kane is also signed long-term to a really solid deal while Bertuzzi will want top money this offseason.

Kane is a much better asset
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16 nov. 2023 à 15 h 55
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
way better is laughable, hes also 4 years older

also

kane has a .63ppg
bertuzzi has a 1.49
LMAO "way better"
both bring the physical element, bertuzzi also less of a cancer,

LMAO Bertuzzi has played 10 playoff games in total u are absolutely ridiculous dude also Bertuzzi is only signed for one year simple google searches would teach you a lot cause u seem to be very clueless
16 nov. 2023 à 15 h 56
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Quoting: boltsfan71
everyone says no to oilers


Quoting: Kinger25
Leafs decline and so does Bert’s nmc


Regarding the Bert trade:

Bertuzzi's career numbers are .67 ppg with his best season being .91, while Kane's career numbers sit at .68 with his best season being .91 as well.

Now if we are talking whose better at what they do, both take dumb penalties but Kane has a much more physical presence who also is a much better "energy" guy.

Based on their goal scoring abilities

Projected 30 Goal Seasons
Kane: 8
Bertuzzi: 1

Not close at all on who the better goal scorer is. Also regarding the idea on kane being a 'Cancer" Kane has been nothing but a fantastic leader in Edmonton who has came through for the team in tough times (last night being an example) yeah he's had issues but I'm not going to let a gambling addiction and his ex-wife being the worst person on earth discredit every good deed he's done in Edmonton. The Kane being a "cancer" narrative has been dead for a while.

Kane is also signed long-term to a really solid deal while Bertuzzi will want top money this offseason.

Kane is a much better asset
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16 nov. 2023 à 15 h 57
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Quoting: NucksnOilers
Regarding the Bert trade:

Bertuzzi's career numbers are .67 ppg with his best season being .91, while Kane's career numbers sit at .68 with his best season being .91 as well.

Now if we are talking whose better at what they do, both take dumb penalties but Kane has a much more physical presence who also is a much better "energy" guy.

Based on their goal scoring abilities

Projected 30 Goal Seasons
Kane: 8
Bertuzzi: 1

Not close at all on who the better goal scorer is. Also regarding the idea on kane being a 'Cancer" Kane has been nothing but a fantastic leader in Edmonton who has came through for the team in tough times (last night being an example) yeah he's had issues but I'm not going to let a gambling addiction and his ex-wife being the worst person on earth discredit every good deed he's done in Edmonton. The Kane being a "cancer" narrative has been dead for a while.

Kane is also signed long-term to a really solid deal while Bertuzzi will want top money this offseason.

Kane is a much better asset


Oh for sure it’s just Edmonton would have to get out of the gutters for Bert to waive
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16 nov. 2023 à 16 h 12
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Quoting: JKCpp
LMAO Bertuzzi has played 10 playoff games in total u are absolutely ridiculous dude also Bertuzzi is only signed for one year simple google searches would teach you a lot cause u seem to be very clueless


why bring up playoff stats then!!?

"kanes way better in the playoffs" brings up stats, " no no no hes only played 10 games you cant do that" tears of joy love the goal post moving

yes he is signed for 1 year, very good you know how to use this site, like i said bert is also 4 years younger and thats big considering the physciality type of kane and him regress at kanes age, lets also not pretend the best player on the planet doesnt impact kane
16 nov. 2023 à 16 h 55
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Canucks easily decline. Wouldn’t give up FC’s for Ceci and his contract at this point, certainly not giving up a young promising forward in Hoglander for him.
 
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