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Pinto

Créé par: Ross_Johnston
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 18 sept. 2023
Publié: 18 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 145 000 $
87 500 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Pinto, Shane2 145 000 $
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Zegras, Trevor [Droits de RFA]
ANA
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Farrell, Sean
  3. Hutson, Lane [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (DET)
2.
BOS
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Evans, Jake
  3. Mesar, Filip
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $82 010 416 $1 170 000 $3 935 000 $1 489 584 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
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1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 4
2 145 000 $2 145 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 8
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Not offer sheet eligible
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18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 9
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Anaheim passes all day long
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18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 11
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Anaheim passes all day long


lmao hutson better >>>>
next makar
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 16
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lmao hutson better >>>>
next makar


Lol
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18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 17
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Anaheim passes all day long


wouldnt trade hutson straight up so thats fine.
Neither trade makes any sense for MTL
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 37
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This shows you know nothing about offersheets.

Try again.
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18 sept. 2023 à 14 h 0
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Quoting: DQavis
lmao hutson better >>>>
next makar


A 5'9" prospect with zero professional experience is better than someone who's already shown to be a star talent at the NHL level. You really should get me your dealers name, because he has the good stuff.

We're quite happy with our own crop of puck moving defensive prospects, and we knocked the Zegras selection out of the park, so unless some high potential forward is a main part of the deal (Slaf or Dach) were simply not interested in even entertaining trading him.
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18 sept. 2023 à 14 h 12
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Anaheim passes all day long


Seeing these replies sure brings a chuckle.
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18 sept. 2023 à 14 h 17
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lmao hutson better >>>>
next makar


I was told the next Makar is in Carolina's system but this is funnier.
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18 sept. 2023 à 14 h 58
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Would you REALLY trade Cole Caufield or Nick Suzuki without getting a 2024 first?

Right now, Olen Zellweger's stats are just as impressive as Lane Hutson's.
18 sept. 2023 à 15 h 36
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Seeing these replies sure brings a chuckle.


How’s that?
18 sept. 2023 à 15 h 45
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How’s that?


Hutson being the main piece in a Zegras proposal and Canadiens fans thinking they're the one losing.
18 sept. 2023 à 15 h 58
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Would you REALLY trade Cole Caufield or Nick Suzuki without getting a 2024 first?

Right now, Olen Zellweger's stats are just as impressive as Lane Hutson's.


They're incredibly impressive, but Hutson is doing it against men as a freshman in college. Zellweger is doing it as a D+2 against guys younger than him in junior. Big difference. Massive difference.

Zellweger also has an AHL playoff game under his belt, I might add.

Hutson is a level ahead of Zellweger IMO but I respect your opinion. Hutson is putting up similar numbers, with less experience, a year and a half younger, and is in a better league playing as a rookie
18 sept. 2023 à 17 h 3
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They're incredibly impressive, but Hutson is doing it against men as a freshman in college. Zellweger is doing it as a D+2 against guys younger than him in junior. Big difference. Massive difference.

Zellweger also has an AHL playoff game under his belt, I might add.

Hutson is a level ahead of Zellweger IMO but I respect your opinion. Hutson is putting up similar numbers, with less experience, a year and a half younger, and is in a better league playing as a rookie


Wow, one game. Wild take
19 sept. 2023 à 8 h 58
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
A 5'9" prospect with zero professional experience is better than someone who's already shown to be a star talent at the NHL level. You really should get me your dealers name, because he has the good stuff.

We're quite happy with our own crop of puck moving defensive prospects, and we knocked the Zegras selection out of the park, so unless some high potential forward is a main part of the deal (Slaf or Dach) were simply not interested in even entertaining trading him.


make sense you alr got Zellweger and others on d so doesnt make sense for that but hutsons value imo is close or same as zegras prospect wise zegras is elite but nothing more
19 sept. 2023 à 9 h 2
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I was told the next Makar is in Carolina's system but this is funnier.


ya a 6'3 210lbs dmen is the next makar lol, but yes carolinas prospect best offensive defensemen prospect easily
19 sept. 2023 à 10 h 36
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make sense you alr got Zellweger and others on d so doesnt make sense for that but hutsons value imo is close or same as zegras prospect wise zegras is elite but nothing more


Zegras isn't a prospect and came with the pedigree of a top 10 selection. Huston is neither. To assume they have anywhere near the same value is fantasy land.
19 sept. 2023 à 11 h 5
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Zegras isn't a prospect and came with the pedigree of a top 10 selection. Huston is neither. To assume they have anywhere near the same value is fantasy land.


hutson ranked top 2 in redraft cant say the same for zegras
19 sept. 2023 à 11 h 8
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hutson ranked top 2 in redraft cant say the same for zegras


According to who? Who has actually redrafted the 2022 draft already? No one serious, since almost none of them have played in the NHL yet.

And yeah, redrafts from Z's year, most places have him going 3rd OA, including THG.
19 sept. 2023 à 12 h 21
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Wow, one game. Wild take


if that is the sole point you're taking from my argument, then I don't think you understand how to value prospects.
19 sept. 2023 à 12 h 57
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if that is the sole point you're taking from my argument, then I don't think you understand how to value prospects.


You’re trippin’

We have Zellweger — Hudson doesn’t hold the value to you as he does to us

We have multiple better LD prospects than Farrell

Armia is owed nearly 7 million still and guy can’t really do anything — negative value there

A pick in 2025 ain’t cutting it

You still sure I don’t know how to value prospects?
19 sept. 2023 à 13 h 14
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You’re trippin’

We have Zellweger — Hudson doesn’t hold the value to you as he does to us

We have multiple better LD prospects than Farrell

Armia is owed nearly 7 million still and guy can’t really do anything — negative value there

A pick in 2025 ain’t cutting it

You still sure I don’t know how to value prospects?


I'm pretty sure because farrell isn't a defenceman lmao
 
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