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The Flyers made an offer for both Pinto and Joseph per Anthony Di Marco

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18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 38
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Be an early Christmas for Dorian if it's that
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18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 39
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Gotta be Laughton
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Gotta be Laughton


theres no way. Would u move Mercer for Laughton
18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 40
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Be an early Christmas for Dorian if it's that


Pinto isnt moving
18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 41
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theres no way. Would u move Mercer for Laughton


You think Pinto is Mercer🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 42
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You think Pinto is Mercer🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Pinto will be a very good 2 way top 6 player within 2 years. You think Pinto is a bottom 6 or something ?
18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 42
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theres no way. Would u move Mercer for Laughton


I would not move Mercer for Laughton. I would consider moving an unsigned Pinto for Laughton, but probably end up against it. Depends what else is in there.
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18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 44
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I would not move Mercer for Laughton. I would consider moving an unsigned Pinto for Laughton, but probably end up against it. Depends what else is in there.


Trading a 22 year old for a 29 year old is a terrible move especially considering the direction the players are going in
18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 50
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Trading a 22 year old for a 29 year old is a terrible move especially considering the direction the players are going in


What are the alternatives?
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18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 52
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What are the alternatives?


Sign Pinto because he’s not going anywhere just like a player of Mercer’s caliber isn’t
18 sept. 2023 à 12 h 54
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Pinto has to be one of the most overrated players in the league at this point
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 0
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Pinto has to be one of the most overrated players in the league at this point


He was a rookie last year. Who trades a guy before they break out
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 1
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Quoting: csick
Pinto isnt moving


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Pinto will be a very good 2 way top 6 player within 2 years. You think Pinto is a bottom 6 or something ?


Any Di Marco and Ant San Philly are both the Flyers two most connected insiders and Ant San Philly said on one of his recent podcasts (I don’t remember which one and they are all over an hour long so I’m not going back to find out lol) that the top 6 is basically already a forgone conclusion for Torts and that any movement in the current team would be in the bottom 6 roster spots so yes it would be Laughton lol. It’s not going to be Frost, Tippet, or TK because they are all top 6 guys. I don’t think it will be Cates either but technically he is the 3C so who knows but realistically we all know it’s Laughton. Pagnotta reported around the draft that the Sens had checked in on Laughton so we know they like him and he was real close with Giroux. Like I said if Pinto is traded to the Flyers it will be something similar to:

Joseph Pinto for Laughton 2nd

Anything more than that you can just consider the Flyers off the list because they aren’t moving any top 6 guys.
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18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 2
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Any Di Marco and Ant San Philly are both the Flyers two most connected insiders and Ant San Philly said on one of his recent podcasts (I don’t remember which one and they are all over an hour long so I’m not going back to find out lol) that the top 6 is basically already a forgone conclusion for Torts and that any movement in the current team would be in the bottom 6 roster spots so yes it would be Laughton lol. It’s not going to be Frost, Tippet, or TK because they are all top 6 guys. I don’t think it will be Cates either but technically he is the 3C so who knows but realistically we all know it’s Laughton. Pagnotta reported around the draft that the Sens had checked in on Laughton so we know they like him and he was real close with Giroux. Like I said if Pinto is traded to the Flyers it will be something similar to:

Joseph Pinto for Laughton 2nd

Anything more than that you can just consider the Flyers off the list because they aren’t moving any top 6 guys.


Well it’s probably what the flyers offered and the Sens laughed them out the building and didn’t bother responding
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18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 4
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I haven't been following whats been happening with Pinto in the offseason. Is this just the usual RFA looking for a better deal from the team or does he not want to be in Ottawa (or Canada)?
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Quoting: AlTintin1122
Well it’s probably what the flyers offered and the Sens laughed them out the building and didn’t bother responding


Yikes considering that more reporters are now tweeting that talks are still ongoing and it will be potentially a larger trade, you should probably do a little more research because the Sens didn’t “laugh them out of the building”
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18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 6
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Yikes considering that more reporters are now tweeting that talks are still ongoing and it will be potentially a larger trade, you should probably do a little more research because the Sens didn’t “laugh them out of the building”


Same reporter said Ottawa didn’t bother responding to Philly and that Philly is moving on
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 7
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I haven't been following whats been happening with Pinto in the offseason. Is this just the usual RFA looking for a better deal from the team or does he not want to be in Ottawa (or Canada)?


Sens want to keep him , he wants to stay. It’s just money at this point in a 1 year squeeze
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 7
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Sign Pinto because he’s not going anywhere just like a player of Mercer’s caliber isn’t


Why are people bringing up Mercer? He is under contract (RFA next summer). So it’s not like he is useful as a comp. And he is probably getting a max term deal.

The contractual comps for Pinto are probably somewhere along lines of Chytil’s deal ($4.4m x 4), Cirelli’s first extension ($4.8m x 3) on high end…or Dube ($2.3m x 3), Frost ($2.1m x 2) on low end.
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Same reporter said Ottawa didn’t bother responding to Philly and that Philly is moving on


Considering the new reports came out like 30 minutes I would assume that Philly did move on and OTT changed their minds when something happened with Pinto. Maybe he gave up on them finally and told them to trade him.
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 9
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He was a rookie last year. Who trades a guy before they break out


My post didn't say "Ottawa should trade Pinto before he breaks out", it said "Pinto has to be one of the most overrated players in the league at this point", so who are you talking to?
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 11
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Why are people bringing up Mercer? He is under contract (RFA next summer). So it’s not like he is useful as a comp. And he is probably getting a max term deal.

The contractual comps for Pinto are probably somewhere along lines of Chytil’s deal ($4.4m x 4), Cirelli’s first extension ($4.8m x 3) on high end…or Dube ($2.3m x 3), Frost ($2.1m x 2) on low end.


Contract wise sure but player wise, Pinto will be better than all
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 17
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Contract wise sure but player wise, Pinto will be better than all


So if he is due somewhere in mid-4s…how do they make it work? Would take 2-3 steps to get there.
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Considering the new reports came out like 30 minutes I would assume that Philly did move on and OTT changed their minds when something happened with Pinto. Maybe he gave up on them finally and told them to trade him.


Quoting: GMDannyB
Considering the new reports came out like 30 minutes I would assume that Philly did move on and OTT changed their minds when something happened with Pinto. Maybe he gave up on them finally and told them to trade him.


I just saw the last update 10-15 mins ago and they said another Sens young player for a veteran. It doesn’t sound like a Pinto deal
18 sept. 2023 à 13 h 19
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I just saw the last update 10-15 mins ago and they said another Sens young player for a veteran. It doesn’t sound like a Pinto deal


Not just Pinto implies both lol
 
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