Right now one of GIo or Timmins will be the #7. That is just better than Benoit or Lagesson. Those two are AHL bound. As for the deadline, I am not sure what happens. Lots of ideas but I don't know which will be best.

Option A)

If the situation is fairly good as in the blueline has been playing well, maybe we don't really need another defenceman, or we get some 3rd pair bruiser to be an addition to be another piece to be used if one of Liljegren or Timmins struggle at some point.

Option B)

The team is doing well but Treliving wants a bruiser on the blueline. Move Brodie maybe in a hockey trade? Maybe Liljegren and Timmins play well enough that you find a way to change Brodie into someone good defensively but far more physical.

Or option C)

The team clearly needs something else on defence. They will have to look at a big move at the deadline to push someone out of the lineup.

I am hoping with Timmins and Liljegren both looking very maybe we won't really need a big move on the blueline. Liljegren has been looking solid in his zone.

Please don't be one of those guys who lifts Timmins and then dumpsters Liljegren. He's been looking good as well.

Rn there is no #7. Once the season starts most likely Timmins gets waived. That is the easiest solution for Toronto to get under the cap. As mentioned no point in having a 1.1m guy sit in the pressbox to play 10 games who eventually will be a #8 or 9 once the TDL passes (like last year). And for those who go Jarnkrok look what teams are asking for to take Joseph even if Jarnkrok gave us 20 goals teams will probs say give us something to take him why we doing you a favor to get under the cap.

Best to try and trade Timmins and get what we can or sneak him through waivers but that seems unlikely as some bottom feeder will probs say thanks


Either way not concerned as come TDL were probs gonna see another big Blue liner be added (Demelo or Tanev) pushing Gio to be #7 and even if Timmins was still here he would be the 8th or 9th guy

Rielly-Demelo/Tanev
McCabe-Liligren
Brodie-Klingberg
Giordano

Thats a nice Dcore for the post season

2 guys that can score and a bunch of solid defenders.

He’s making the Klingberg signing look stupider by the minute

Or lose Gregor and run 11/7. Or make a trade with Lafferty or someone else. Lots of options. You get way to set on one possible option and refuse to consider anything else.

I wont lie, if he outright wins Klingbergs spot, I'll be mildly pissed lmao. Talk about a waste of ~3M

Oh well. It's a nice problem to have I guess

The problem with going 11-7 you run the risk of losing Bobby McMann who despite being hurt and missing the preseason deserves a shot as he put up good numbers with the Marlies. Moving on from Lafferty not wise either as we gonna need his PK skills. There is Jarnkrok but based on OTT and Joseph teams will probs say to Toronto give us a pick to take him

In general not a lot of great options as they gonna lose someone good

Now with Timmins making 1.1m there is a shot he could pass through waivers as we have seen some good players pass through before

Its a wait and see rn but either way I do expect the Leafs to add at the TDL (most likely a top 4 RD) so not a lot of options could be available to keep him in the lineup full time unless we see injuries but nobody wishes for those.

I’m just glad there is more than just me that believes he is worth keeping lol

Did you just ignore everything I said about Timmins?
I'm in favour of keeping him lmao

I can only imagine your recency bias if Timmins had a terrible game tonight.

Oh well, nice to have you aboard team Timmins!

Did you hit your head or something?



The only recency bias is you reacting to a 100th percentile event lmao.

Like **** man no need to create enemies. You have enough of those already

Oh, do tell?

Dude I'm going to bed. I suggest you chill out and realise that you're being silly.

I’m actually just curious now

After tonight's game I am not sure you can afford to pass on Timmins. He produces and has since he was traded to the Leafs. Still leaves a lot to be desired defensively but he's got potential

The thing is he's their #7 (or Marlies #1 D) when everyone's healthy so unless someone gets hurt might not get a lot of opportunity to do much here. Then come TDL Leafs will probs add a Dman or two So this makes things more complicated for him in terms of opportunity to play

As sure you can say oh he can beat out Klingberg you think they gonna have a 4.15m Dman sitting in that pressbox nope. Guys probs gonna play the season out or be moved at the TDL in a cap move for someone else. Timmins played a good game but when you are fighting for a spot its to be expected especially after Klingberg's random injury disappearance. If that didnt happen who knows what we would be saying lul

I can't for the life of me understand why you're so ready to plug in 40 year old Gio for 82 games instead of rotating him with Timmins. Literally just sit Gio and play Brodie as LD. There's the spot for Timmins

I mean did you see how he did last year when everyone got hurt. He held the blue line together despite Rielly and Brodie being out with injury

Only issue we saw was playoffs which is why I say have them add a top 4 guy come TDL to fix that problem which creates more spot issues for a guy like Timmins. As what were gonna say hey brodie switch back and fourth between LD and RD that wont cause issues.

In the end unless we see an injury there is no spot on the main roster rn and trading another good player just to keep him makes no sense either.

For now

Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Liligren
Gio-Klingberg

After TDL

Rielly-Demelo
McCabe-Liligren
Brodie-Klingberg

or better 3rd pair LD to push Gio down to #7

Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Liligren
Gryzlyc-Klingberg

If he's better than Gio then he should play. The leafs can't afford to play someone who isn't the best player available

Gio was probably the worst defenceman for TO in the playoffs. And he's not been terrific in the preseason. I don't agree with playing guys for the "intangibles" when better players have earned their shot.

Also McCabe did not look good tonight. He was to blame for both goals against. Just gave a clear path to the net on goal 1 and screened the goalie on goal 2.

But hes not better if he was he would have played over Gio in the playoffs did he no

In general Timmins last year come playoffs was the Leafs 9th Dman

Gio helped keep things in check when the Leafs blue line suffered some serious injuries with their top pair being out

Keefe trusts him enough to keep him in and he honestly earned all his mins. Playoffs were a different manner but thats why you go add someone at the TDL to push him to 7 Dman

Timmins was on the ice for one of those goals to so whats your point

Your not taking McCabe out to put Timmins if thats what your implying

If Brodie was on for 2 goals would you take him out and keep Timmins, or Rielly no lul

In general Timmins is gonna play like he is rn cause he is fighting for a spot thats really all there is to it. McCabe wasnt perfect but was fine. But as of now there is no spot

This is such a weird argument to make. Timmins didn't play in the playoffs because he missed a good chunk of the year and Giordano was the more familiar guy. You dont need to look at games played to know who the better player is. Timmins has had a while to rehab and got to go through training camp. He is undoubtedly better than Giordano

Timmins didnt play in the playoffs because there were guys ahead of him and while Gio is not what he once was this sums it up best.

https://twitter.com/nylanderthews/status/1705253087227642243

If timmins was better than Gio he would have played over him in the playoffs but he didnt. And Timmins was cleared to play Nov 8th of last year. So where was a good chunk of the year come from. Unless were counting sitting in the pressbox due to no spot thats a non factor. He got pushed out once we acquired Gustafsson and Schenn which is funny as Gustafsson barely played reg season games with us but got playoff usage over Timmins. In the end same thing could happen where Brad will probs go add a Dman or two as his comments about a work in progress Dcore were telling. As lets say we take Gio out and insert Timmins that right side does not give any shred of confidence as its 2 offensive Dman and a guy who you hope can play well in elevated mins.

In the end Timmins played well in his mins last year yet after the TDL he was the #9. This time however we got no cap space to keep him on the main roster and after the TDL I dont see him being higher than the #8 maybe again 9. So its basically the same thing for him all over again.

It sucks but thats hockey. Now the unconventional option could be to have him play forward like he did at the end of last season but that also complicates things.

In the end I hope they can find a solution so they dont lose him for nothing (Trade, somehow pass through waivers, maybe utilize more LTIR) lets see but from the looks of things they are either gonna lose him or another good player.