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(BUF / MIN) - Scandella, Pominville for Ennis, Foligno

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30 juin 2017 à 12 h 3
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A trade between Buffalo Sabres and Minnesota Wild has been confirmed.
Détails de la transaction
Les Sabres de Buffalo font l’acquisition de:
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Jason Pominville · 5 600 000 $5 600 000 $5 000 000 $
Marco Scandella · 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (MIN - #117 - Linus Lindstrand Cronholm)
Somme: 9 600 000 $9 600 000 $9 000 000 $
Variation: +6 725 000 $
Variation: +6 725 000 $
Variation: +3 350 000 $
Les Wild du Minnesota font l’acquisition de:
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Tyler Ennis · 0 $0 $3 650 000 $
Marcus Foligno · 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $2 000 000 $
Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (BUF - #63 - Jack McBain)
Somme: 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $5 650 000 $
Variation: -6 725 000 $
Variation: -6 725 000 $
Variation: -3 350 000 $
30 juin 2017 à 12 h 5
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this says that BUF gets a 3rd and MIN gets a 4th when it's the other way around i believe.
30 juin 2017 à 12 h 5
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Great trade for Buffalo. Upgrade at their top pair LHD spot (still not a top pair D-man, but it's better than Jack McCabe) while picking up a competent third line RW who had his best years in Buffalo.
30 juin 2017 à 12 h 9
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Good job by Buffalo. Also makes sense for Minnesota but Buffalo wins this one.
30 juin 2017 à 12 h 10
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Good job by Buffalo. Also makes sense for Minnesota but Buffalo wins this one.


i don't like it for Minnesota.
30 juin 2017 à 12 h 14
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i don't like it for Minnesota.


True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.
30 juin 2017 à 12 h 18
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Minnesota's taking a big loss to open up cap space here. Hope they have plans for it. We'll have to see if this is a precursor to another trade.
30 juin 2017 à 12 h 31
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Boterill has awoken. Great move for Buffalo
30 juin 2017 à 12 h 44
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Minnesota's taking a big loss to open up cap space here. Hope they have plans for it. We'll have to see if this is a precursor to another trade.


More likely Granlund and Niederreiter asking for big extensions.
30 juin 2017 à 13 h 15
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I really like this deal for Buffalo, even if biased since had Pom back in the day before he started on a fantasy league... Scandella has scored double digit goals before so really like getting him as well... Ennis is kinda small, guess he can bunk with Spurgeon now... Never liked Foligno or whatever, glad I wont have to see the players shipped here in the West anymore smile. I think Pom can get back to form perhaps or least chip in about 20 goals... Game might be getting faster, though I still don't think a guy as small as Tyler can hold up to the physical play in the West. At least the Sabres are making an effort to improve, Wild probably did this to free up cap space to sign somebody or for another trade/deal. Nice to see Pom going back home, even if they say you can't go home again wink. Either way Buffalo's chances to win the draft lottery just took a hit wink.
30 juin 2017 à 13 h 17
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i don't like it for Minnesota.


True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.


fair enough. And i'm not saying they're bad, none of these guys are bad, they just aren't as good as Scandella if you ask me.
30 juin 2017 à 13 h 22
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Minnesota's taking a big loss to open up cap space here. Hope they have plans for it. We'll have to see if this is a precursor to another trade.


More likely Granlund and Niederreiter asking for big extensions.


Yes, but I'm wondering if they'll be moving out a center or upgrading a forward now.
I don't think extensions are pressing concerns, with everyone but Koivu being RFA, but you never know.
30 juin 2017 à 13 h 33
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True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.


fair enough. And i'm not saying they're bad, none of these guys are bad, they just aren't as good as Scandella if you ask me.


Yeah he is probably the best player in this deal if Pom don't regain his form... I wonder if Foligno or so is a RFA when does the new team have to tender him an offer or lose him as UFA? I thought that deadline already passed before he was traded... So did he even get a tender offer to retain him before they shipped him? Wild might just let him walk if they are that desperate to free up cap space. Looks real good for Buffalo, Ennis is too small he will probably get banged up/hurt playing in the West anyways. Maybe a short D-man like Spurgeon or somebody can avoid injuries better especially with hybrid icing... Yet Versteeg when he was on Kings got hurt or banged up pretty quickly don't think he would ever have lasted a season... Still mad they traded Zykov in that deal, made sure they fired Dean after that smile.
30 juin 2017 à 13 h 34
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i don't like it for Minnesota.


True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.


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It's not that much of a savings. The Sabres qualified Foligno & if he decides to go thru arbitration I'm guessing he'll be around 3.5-4m per season. Minnesota is only gonna see 1-1.5m savings.
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True, but Foligno is not bad, and Ennis is risk worth taking. Remember a big part of this was Minnesota clearing cap space.


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It's not that much of a savings. The Sabres qualified Foligno & if he decides to go thru arbitration I'm guessing he'll be around 3.5-4m per season. Minnesota is only gonna see 1-1.5m savings.


I don't see how Foligno is going to see $3.5-4 m, even with arbitration. He made @2.25m and his scoring hasn't really improved since his previous contract ... I think he'll get $2.5-3m max. He might even get paid less then his previous contract as that "potential factor" has faded. You'll pay a guy on the upswing some more in hopes that he keeps going up. Foligno has already leveled off.

I think it's a pretty darn even deal, when you consider the cap space the Wild needed, the age of Pominville, and the pick. Scandella is the best in the trade, but Min got younger and even if Ennis can't keep up in the west, he can put up decent numbers and there's plenty of teams in the East that can use him. If he can stay health long enough to put up some points like he has in the past, he can be moved to add to the value of the trade. putting the Wild over the top.

Foligno is 25, and big. Even if he's just a 3rd or 4th line guy he's still can grow WITH the core (Niederreiter, Granlund, Zucker, Coyle, Spurgeon, and Brodin) of the Wild team, and Ennis at 27 fits in there too. Unless you expect to win this year, Pominville was very expendable. Especially if his numbers drop off. Either way Ennis' career SHOULD be longer, and potentially as productive.
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2 août 2017 à 8 h 53
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Have to say this deal isn't as lopsided as everyone seems to think. The wild opened up cap space for their important players and got rid of some old big contracts. Foligno won't be making more than 3M. Buffalo go the better players but in context the Wild now get to resign their important players and maybe con squeeze in Foligno.
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Welp, this deal really turned around...
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Welp, this deal really turned around...


I still think MIN should've gotten more at the time, but I'm very happy with how Foligno turned out. I still have high hopes for McBain as well.
18 mai 2021 à 14 h 4
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Minny wins now Foligno is the best player in this deal and they got the higher pick too
19 mai 2021 à 14 h 53
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Minny wins now Foligno is the best player in this deal and they got the higher pick too


I thought it was a fair deal at the time. I still think it's a fair deal. If BUF would have gotten a 2nd + 4th for Scandella instead of just a 4th it look better for them.
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Minny wins now Foligno is the best player in this deal and they got the higher pick too


I think Buffalo still got more value, but Buffalo's gonna Buffalo so they lost the trade with the move they made with these players.
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Looking back at this, the voting seems to be accurate in that 90% of the people who post on this site have no idea what they're talking about.
3 juin 2021 à 16 h 47
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I thought it was a fair deal at the time. I still think it's a fair deal. If BUF would have gotten a 2nd + 4th for Scandella instead of just a 4th it look better for them.


Especially when you consider the 4th they traded Scandella for was used to acquire Frolik..
3 juin 2021 à 23 h 31
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I think Minnesota wins.
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Wild win soley since they upgraded McBain into a 2nd
 
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